List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Johnny Bananas]

Coming off injury so no pre-season and appeared unfit.

You'd think that's a decent buy-low opportunity. If he catches fire next year, the asking price will soar.

 

[Tom14]

Then why would you characterise my views as being "I hate this player on my team, he’s crap… but someone else will value him and we’ll get something good in return" when it's clear I don't think he's crap and you do think someone else will value him and we'll get something good in return? I'm struggling to see the point there other than you talking down to me.

Because you’ve posted quite a few times about trading Bailey, I assumed that you didn’t rate him highly - or reckoned he wasn’t worth retaining. Trading a player who is signed up for 2 more seasons is actually quite a disruptive thing to do.

Also because it was funny and it’s a light-hearted footy forum. If you are displeased by my characterisation of your views, then fair enough but feel free to ignore me.

 

[Perrip]

Inside Trading

BRISBANE is locked in talks to extend first-year forward Logan Morris for another couple of seasons, after the teenager burst onto the scene this season.
Last year's No.31 pick earned an initial two-year contract at Brisbane, though the club has opened talks to activate a third-year extension and potentially even tack on a fourth season to his deal.
Morris' manager Tim Hazell from Vivid Sports said negotiations with Lions list boss Dom Ambrogio were now underway.
"Outside of the top 20, it's an activation for a third (year in a draftee's contract). There's no negotiating, it's just what the top 20 get and it gets passed on to those players," Hazell said.
"We're having some conversations with Dom about potentially activating the third year and then looking at a fourth. We'll keep that conversation going over the next couple of weeks.
"It's been a huge year for Logan. I saw him the other day and we were reflecting on the season so far. He's playing that third tall role. It's been really exciting. Having Eric Hipwood

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Eric Hipwood

Age

27

Ht

204cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.1

2star

G

1.1

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.4

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.4

5star

and big Joe Daniher there has just given him licence to roam. He can go up, he can go down and he's really excited for the next couple of weeks.
"I know a lot of the senior boys have been getting around him. Every first-year player goes through some ups and downs and he's just riding a nice up at the moment." – Riley Beveridge

 

[martinson]

Bailey's a bit of a conundrum , one of those players who you're high fiving when he's on song and tearing your hair out when he's not going so hot.

I believe he hasn't been the same since his mid season injury but looked to be coming into form last week.

I wouldn't be trading him at his age unless someone made an offer we couldn't refuse and he was happy to go.

He's a cream on the top sort of player and this hasn't been the year where that's been a priority.

 

[rye]

For real we should be buzzing around Melbourne's festering corpse and seeing if we can shake someone out on the cheap.

On SM-A536E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[irish]

For real we should be buzzing around Melbourne's festering corpse and seeing if we can shake someone out on the cheap.

On SM-A536E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[irish]

Pickett ?

 

[briztoon]

Would Jack Lukosius be worth considering? He been encourage to look around by Gold Coast. High draft pick in his year, 24 years old, 195 cm, genuine swing man that Brisbane doesn’t really have, and good recent history of accurate goal kicking. Although he is from S.A., I bet he owns a house in QLD, and would have built some sort of lifestyle on the coast.

Apologies if this has been mentioned already, but last I heard, Lukosius stall hadn't bought a house and lived with King, at Kings house.

 

[SizeMatters]

Alex Davies worth a punt. Out next gen midfield is small and I rate him. Really unfortunate suspension as his game that day was very good. Big bodied and can rotate forward. Prefers to stay in QLD but I think Hardwick doesn’t want him to leave. Though talk of a move to Pies??

 

[Bucking Beads]

Alex Davies worth a punt. Out next gen midfield is small and I rate him. Really unfortunate suspension as his game that day was very good. Big bodied and can rotate forward. Prefers to stay in QLD but I think Hardwick doesn’t want him to leave. Though talk of a move to Pies??

Would be a good option for us.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

LIONS OPEN TALKS ON YOUNGSTER

BRISBANE is locked in talks to extend first-year forward Logan Morris for another couple of seasons, after the teenager burst onto the scene this season.

Morris has played 15 of the last 16 games for the Lions, kicking 18 goals and forming a promising partnership with key forward duo Joe Daniher and Eric Hipwood

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Eric Hipwood

Age

27

Ht

204cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.1

2star

G

1.1

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.4

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.4

5star

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Last year's No.31 pick earned an initial two-year contract at Brisbane, though the club has opened talks to activate a third-year extension and potentially even tack on a fourth season to his deal.

Speaking on AFL.com.au's trade and draft show Gettable last week, Morris' manager Tim Hazell from Vivid Sports said negotiations with Lions list boss Dom Ambrogio were now underway.

"Outside of the top 20, it's an activation for a third (year in a draftee's contract). There's no negotiating, it's just what the top 20 get and it gets passed on to those players," Hazell said.

"We're having some conversations with Dom about potentially activating the third year and then looking at a fourth. We'll keep that conversation going over the next couple of weeks.

"It's been a huge year for Logan. I saw him the other day and we were reflecting on the season so far. He's playing that third tall role. It's been really exciting. Having Eric Hipwood

30

Eric Hipwood

Age

27

Ht

204cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.0

3star

K

7.4

3star

HB

2.6

2star

M

3.9

4star

T

1.3

3star

G

1.5

5star

D

11.1

3star

K

8.4

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

4.1

4star

T

1.1

2star

G

1.1

5star

D

10.6

3star

K

8.4

4star

HB

2.2

2star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.4

5star

and big Joe Daniher there has just given him licence to roam. He can go up, he can go down and he's really excited for the next couple of weeks.

"I know a lot of the senior boys have been getting around him. Every first-year player goes through some ups and downs and he's just riding a nice up at the moment." – Riley Beveridge

Sun on Pies' radar, Dees defender gets interest, Magpie’s big call

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

 

[Cubs2Lions]

Alex Davies worth a punt. Out next gen midfield is small and I rate him. Really unfortunate suspension as his game that day was very good. Big bodied and can rotate forward. Prefers to stay in QLD but I think Hardwick doesn’t want him to leave. Though talk of a move to Pies??

Rival Vic pair keen on Sun; flashy forward ‘free to explore’ exit — AFL Trade Whispers

Pies, Cats in battle for gun mid; forward ‘free to explore’ exit — AFL Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

Hopefully the club takes a punt on him as well even if he replaces Lyons / Robertson as he would be handy depth for us and a point of difference with the other midfielder with his height (other than Berry).

Also wouldn't mind the club trading for Rosas Jnr as small forward depth for the club as well this year as he could possible be a long-term replacement for Cameron or McCarthy especially if Craven gets delisted at the end of the year while also providing us depth while in the premiership window for the time-being.

If we are looking at our full-time small forward depth for 2025 and beyond with Rosas Jnr signature attached, it could be:

McCarthy (32 in October)
Cameron (31 in July)
Ah Chee (28 in October)^
Bailey (26 in September)*
Rayner (26 in October)*
Rosas Jnr (24 in June)
Lohmann (22 in May)^
L.Ashcroft (19 in December)*

*- Forward / Midfield role
^- Forward / Wing role

Furthermore, we also have Greesu coming in as an academy selection for us in the 2025 or 2026 draft, which would give us more insurance if one of our current mature small forwards (over 25+) retires or gets traded.

 

[Nathan Barley]

If we want another big bodied mid surely the best option is to find someone to replace Bez as a wing and move him inside

 

[M Malice]

If we want another big bodied mid surely the best option is to find someone to replace Bez as a wing and move him inside

A bargain pick up like the Hawks got in Massimo D'Ambrosio would be good.

Not sure who is out there in that mould though.

 

[Dalions]

A bargain pick up like the Hawks got in Massimo D'Ambrosio would be good.

Not sure who is out there in that mould though.

I may be way wrong but I think Hawthorne will fall back a bit next year.
They have taken on some players that tend to start well at Clubs then fall away a bit when things go to their head and they fall into old habits like Chol, Ginnivan, and D’Ambrosio.
I think they will level out a bit next year before then making another charge with a bit more experience.
Getting someone like Barrass will help though.

 

[Sproj]

If we want another big bodied mid surely the best option is to find someone to replace Bez as a wing and move him inside

Sharp/Reville? They are both decent, Reville especially looking like he could be a borderline A grade talent with a full preseason or two. Not really sure we need to recruit much at all to be honest.

Out list is pretty strong overall. I think we just need to get the balance right and we already have some decent talent coming in via the draft and through natural progression. Our kids have been outstanding this year, some may have a bit of a struggle next year as youth inevitably leads to inconsistency but overall, our squad is strong. I'm not sure we need too much in the short term.

 

[mpal6]

Alex Davies worth a punt. Out next gen midfield is small and I rate him. Really unfortunate suspension as his game that day was very good. Big bodied and can rotate forward. Prefers to stay in QLD but I think Hardwick doesn’t want him to leave. Though talk of a move to Pies??

He would want to play in best 22 inside mid next year and we won't have the spot for him. It's as if he's moved across from GC to us and asked to play reserves again, doesn't look very attractive for him.

I believe at Pies he'll get that chance next year and he might prefer that compared to ours.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Also wouldn't mind the club trading for Rosas Jnr as small forward depth for the club as well this year as he could possible be a long-term replacement for Cameron or McCarthy especially if Craven gets delisted at the end of the year while also providing us depth while in the premiership window for the time-being.

I'm quite puzzled as to why Rosas is being pushed out, as the Suns aren't stacked at small forward or anything. Maybe Dimma doesn't like his attitude?

In any case, the problem with us recruiting Rosas is the same as with Davies: why would he go here to be depth when he can be a starter at multiple other clubs? Assuming we're healthy, he'll sit on the bench for a year unless he outperforms Ah Chee, but he doesn't have Ah Chee's flexibility. But he'd walk into a starting place at Freo or Essendon.

 

[mpal6]

Alex Davies worth a punt. Out next gen midfield is small and I rate him. Really unfortunate suspension as his game that day was very good. Big bodied and can rotate forward. Prefers to stay in QLD but I think Hardwick doesn’t want him to leave. Though talk of a move to Pies??

My view is West Coast should get their coach sorted and be proactive on these type of player moves.

They should be the ones knocking the doors of Peatling, Davies, Graham, Cumming, Perryman etc. No idea what's going on over there.

 

[SizeMatters]

I'm quite puzzled as to why Rosas is being pushed out, as the Suns aren't stacked at small forward or anything. Maybe Dimma doesn't like his attitude?

In any case, the problem with us recruiting Rosas is the same as with Davies: why would he go here to be depth when he can be a starter at multiple other clubs? Assuming we're healthy, he'll sit on the bench for a year unless he outperforms Ah Chee, but he doesn't have Ah Chee's flexibility. But he'd walk into a starting place at Freo or Essendon.

I try to attend as many GC home games as possible so think I have a decent understanding on certain players. Rosas is a talent but he's crazy weak. From the eyes it seems he just gets constant broken tackles (on the rare occasion he tackles) and is lazy on defence. You don't want those types for modern AFL especially since he can't play anywhere else.

 

[martinson]

I try to attend as many GC home games as possible so think I have a decent understanding on certain players. Rosas is a talent but he's crazy weak. From the eyes it seems he just gets constant broken tackles (on the rare occasion he tackles) and is lazy on defence. You don't want those types for modern AFL especially since he can't play anywhere else.

One of the most underrated skills is the capacity to tackle effectively and particularly the capacity to break tackles.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Levi puts a smile on my face, really think he’s going to play round one, even if it’s as a Wing, Forward or Back - too classy not to.

Great head on his shoulders.

This is better than the two Daicos’

 

[Elixuh]

Levi puts a smile on my face, really think he’s going to play round one, even if it’s as a Wing, Forward or Back - too classy not to.

Great head on his shoulders.

This is better than the two Daicos’

Papa fages always plays our top draftees from day 1. It’s the fagan way.

He is going to be exciting.

 

[Dalions]

Papa fages always plays our top draftees from day 1. It’s the fagan way.

He is going to be exciting.

Selection squeeze incoming.

 

[BringFevBack2021]

Selection squeeze incoming.

Great problem to have