List Mgmt. 2024 List Management discussion

[Elixuh]

Anyone wishing Harris forward. As soon as we play a semi-decent opposition you'll be wanting to unwind that move within 10 minutes.

 

[captainrich]

Back to the Future…….

Draft night 2011. I was very hopeful that the Lions would take Adam Tomlinson pick 8. A mobile CHF.

Instead we take Billy Longer and GWS take Tomlinson next pick at 9.

Call me crazy, I know he’s played AFL largely as a defender, but could he play CHF for the Lions with Hipwood FF.

Just a thought.

Think about it.

Still remember this. Had outdated recruiter think at the time of just drafting rucking talls with our first pick thinking that miraculously solves all KPP issues. Drafted some absolute spuds years before like Spanderman, Cameron wood and then still drafted Leunberger lol. Then went for Longer instead of Tomlinson.

In saying that we nailed sam docherty and elliot yeo in that draft, shame rocky and pearce used to bully them so they left.

 

[McIvor]

Still remember this. Had outdated recruiter think at the time of just drafting rucking talls with our first pick thinking that miraculously solves all KPP issues. Drafted some absolute spuds years before like Spanderman, Cameron wood and then still drafted Leunberger lol. Then went for Longer instead of Tomlinson.

In saying that we nailed sam docherty and elliot yeo in that draft, shame rocky and pearce used to bully them so they left.

Imagine if we’d have drafted Toby Greene instead of Longer. Has Tomlinson really ever lived up to his high draft pick; I wouldn’t have thought so.

 

[Brett C]

Yes but how many goals has he kicked in the afl?

Jonathan Brown kicked 5 goals in his first 13 games.

Guess we should have delisted him and moved on

 

[Daniel_Rich]

He's under contract and likely unavailable, but I'd hope we're asking GWS about Jake Riccardi if we're going to look externally for a Daniher replacement.

 

[haystark]

In saying that we nailed sam docherty and elliot yeo in that draft, shame rocky and pearce used to bully them so they left.

First I’ve ever heard that. Elaborate?

 

[Scubaveg]

Jo has kicked 60 odd goals just about every year. If Smith has the year Morris has just had we'd all be over the moon. Morris kicked 24 goals, less than half Jo's. It's unreasonable to expect Henry to get anywhere near Jo's output.

Ollie Lord, Samson Ryan, Lynch, Fogarty. We can pick up on of these with next years first. If not we play Smith and need a Day or someone of that ilk to play VFL and come in as backup in the event of injury.






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[T Rick]

Wasn't Dom Fay suggesting we had someone on the hook mid-year...time for you to join the discussion Dom and tease us with your inside knowledge.

 

[briztoon]

First I’ve ever heard that. Elaborate?

Was pretty well known.

 

[briztoon]

Wasn't Dom Fay suggesting we had someone on the hook mid-year...time for you to join the discussion Dom and tease us with your inside knowledge.

I believe what Dom hinted at, said player was on the hook for the 2025 trade and free agency period.

 

[Bobby Beecroft]

I believe what Dom hinted at, said player was on the hook for the 2025 trade and free agency period.

There’s no doubt there will be a plan in place and internally this has been known about for at least 12 months.

Going to be interesting to see how this plays out. Some of the speculation is entertaining and some mind numbing.

It’s that time of year again, except this time we are premiers.

 

[DevRoboGun]

With the emergence of Kai, Ah Chee and Rayner as genuine stars we have the best small/medium forward set up in the league. Our game plan of dissecting teams through uncontested marking means we are now less reliant on tall forwards than ever.

Either replace Joe with Linc or play Oscar and Fort with the job being to purely bring the ball to ground inside 50 and let the smalls go to work.

This will also strengthen our clearance work with two genuine gun rucks having less fatigue.

Can guarantee without Joe we will see more marking from the medium sized brigade.

 

[Viceregal]

Be utterly devastated (not) if we get one of those where-the-hell-did-that-come-from trade surprises again this year where we get to just bask in awe at our recruiting/list management team's skills ...

 

[Nunez]

I wonder what a realistic expectation for Logan Morris second season will be. He'd have 30+ if he played all games this year, but think he can push 40 with a strong pre season. For me, his natural ability will get him far and it's all about getting his strength up to a point the bigger bodied defenders can't completely blanket him.

 

[Nathan Barley]

With the emergence of Kai, Ah Chee and Rayner as genuine stars we have the best small/medium forward set up in the league. Our game plan of dissecting teams through uncontested marking means we are now less reliant on tall forwards than ever.

Either replace Joe with Linc or play Oscar and Fort with the job being to purely bring the ball to ground inside 50 and let the smalls go to work.

This will also strengthen our clearance work with two genuine gun rucks having less fatigue.

Can guarantee without Joe we will see more marking from the medium sized brigade.

I think you've been sucked in by our GF performance. We won't be taking 158 marks every week

Only need to go back 2 weeks earlier to see how important Joe was

Plus we know Oscar usually rucks better when he takes the majority of the ruckwork

 

[Nuggo]

I think some under estimating how important Joe's role was and over estimating what we currently have on our list to fill the role. Sounds as though something is cooking. Perhaps Chrissy will come early for a second time this year!

 

[Tom14]

I wonder what a realistic expectation for Logan Morris second season will be. He'd have 30+ if he played all games this year, but think he can push 40 with a strong pre season. For me, his natural ability will get him far and it's all about getting his strength up to a point the bigger bodied defenders can't completely blanket him.

I’m not setting my expectations higher than 30+ goals and competing hard in the air. Frankly if he can just avoid being outmarked that would be a big win.

 

[Bucking Beads]

We’ve gotta be prepared to see Morris regress next year. Particularly if he’s getting better defenders. Henry Smith looks a likely type so I can see him doing a job and getting better as the year progresses. If he can clink marks he will kick 30+ goals in the year if he plays 20 games.

 

[Squizz89]

Yeah I think a few in here and especially in the media are underestimating just how important Joe was to us.

Would any of the options raised internally or externally have been able to take that mark on Taylor to win the game for us? It would be unfair to expect that, but it’s highlighting the type of match winner we’re looking at replacing here.

Throwing a ruckman forward hoping for the best or hoping a 2nd year under size key forward can perform miracles, could open us up to disaster imo.

That’s not even taking into consideration any injuries, which are par for the course and will hit at some stage.

Club will have a plan though.

 

[BrisVegasDru]

First I’ve ever heard that. Elaborate?

hazing type stuff allegedly, was a lot of talk about it at the time, check an old go home 5 thread

 

[BrisVegasDru]

Jo has kicked 60 odd goals just about every year. If Smith has the year Morris has just had we'd all be over the moon. Morris kicked 24 goals, less than half Jo's. It's unreasonable to expect Henry to get anywhere near Jo's output.

Ollie Lord, Samson Ryan, Lynch, Fogarty. We can pick up on of these with next years first. If not we play Smith and need a Day or someone of that ilk to play VFL and come in as backup in the event of injury.






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remember Ollie Lord playing really well against us in a final in 2023

 

[Tom14]

Jo has kicked 60 odd goals just about every year. If Smith has the year Morris has just had we'd all be over the moon. Morris kicked 24 goals, less than half Jo's. It's unreasonable to expect Henry to get anywhere near Jo's output.

Ollie Lord, Samson Ryan, Lynch, Fogarty. We can pick up on of these with next years first. If not we play Smith and need a Day or someone of that ilk to play VFL and come in as backup in the event of injury.






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Lord and Samson Ryan are not worth future firsts, and I’d be hesitant to give one up for Lynch at this stage of his career.

Fogarty would cost more than a single first round pick.

 

[haystark]

hazing type stuff allegedly, was a lot of talk about it at the time, check an old go home 5 thread

Yeah, right. I knew there were behavioural issues with Rockliff, but had no idea about the hazing/bullying. What heroes

 

[briztoon]

I wonder what a realistic expectation for Logan Morris second season will be. He'd have 30+ if he played all games this year, but think he can push 40 with a strong pre season. For me, his natural ability will get him far and it's all about getting his strength up to a point the bigger bodied defenders can't completely blanket him.

I don’t want to put any expectations on Morris.

He’s a young third tall, in a team that just lost it’s spearhead KPF.

Teams are going to put extra work in to nullifying Hipwood and Morris, as that will also take away our ability to bring the ball to ground and bring our small forwards in to the game.

 

[Morbidly_Obese]

First I’ve ever heard that. Elaborate?

You didn't hear about this? He called them 'nerds' and gave them wedgies.