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Pretty sure he is. Over his entire career.
Can kick it from anywhere on the run though
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Pretty sure he is. Over his entire career.
Can kick it from anywhere on the run though
I wonder if we might be saving this for finals. We know it works, why not try other things as well?
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I thought so too but the fact that we didn't revert to this when Giants got on a roll makes me think this is not a preferred method anymore. This is like if one of Neale-McCluggage-Ashcroft are unavailable for some reason then Berry may get a look in.
We didn't use it when Top 4 was on the line, so I'm not sure what better time to use it. I feel they are not even looking at it seriously as an option anymore.
To me this is a massive concern about our coaching staff. They've been excellent with player development, but on gameday, If they can't see what's working and stay with it, you have to question whether they're tactically flexible enough to win a flag.
- Oct 13, 2015
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We were utterly dominant in the middle when Bez was actually on the field playing wing on saturday. After he got subbed we started struggling, not leaving us with the option of throwing him in there.
I actually think Bez as an inside mid was a bit overrated earlier this year. The first half on Bont was awesome, as was his half against Clayton Oliver in the 2022 semi final. But while playing more midfield is good for Bez's numbers, he's not a great user of the footy and Clug and Ashcroft are more damaging.
Bez playing a heap of minutes as an inside mid with Dunkley didn't stop the hawks mids from curb-stomping us before the bye.
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Hawks are playing a model or style that we haven't found easy to counter yet. It was Berry's second game with some serious midfield minutes and I'm sure it'll have a different outcome if he goes H2H against a solo opponent like Newcombe or Day with more preparation.
Berry forced Bont to be played forward, Berry played an excellent game against Butters. For whatever reason once Ashcroft returned, we bumped him off and we never gave him a solid look in since then. Berry would've been my preferred candidate to stop Tom Greene.
I'd say McCluggage midfield minutes are overrated and the moment there is a change of momentum both Hugh and Neale would be all at sea as single minded defending isn't a natural to either of them. I'd cut Ashcroft some slack as he's barely back from ACL but between the other two - we are not getting what we need in terms of stopping opposition momentum.
- Apr 24, 2020
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There was a bounce on the weekend where our mids were Neale, Clugg and Bailey. 100% Need to have on of either Bez or Dunkley in every CB IMO.
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That's one way to lose a CB without even trying.
If we win the footy, great. If we lose it - I don't think either of those 3 will defend or tackle like their life is dependent on it. No shame, it's not their core skillset and it doesn't come natural to them but they have other skills which are elite.
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Linc has re-signed for next year
- Apr 24, 2020
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I'm really interested to see how he goes next year. Some top level talent in coming, Kai and Cal both earning their spots. I'm not 100% sure who comes out for him without injuries.
- Oct 13, 2015
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Hard to know how we'll come back physically, but as good as Kai and Cal have been, we've missed Linc's composure in front of goal and his ball use. One of the best kicks inside 50 in the team.
Right now, Bailey but then you've also got LAshcroft coming in.
Especially with Oscar slapping at it with no direction lol
- Apr 24, 2020
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Trying to picture a side for next year
Lester Andrews Starce
Wilmott Payne Coleman
Fletcher Neale McCluggage
Lohmann Hipwood Rayner
Cameron Daniher Morris
McInerny Dunkly Berry
Ah Chee W Ashcroft L Ashcroft Zorko
McCarthy/Bailey
You would think just like will Levi walks straight into the team and 35, 11 clearances and a goal in his VFL debut shows that is probably going to be on merit and not just for development as a future star.
I'm not sure that Bailey has ever been dropped so the obvious answer is Ah Chee. If Zorko doesn't continue his form into next year then he could be the guy to come out.
Then we would have to consider Marshall as well.
It's a great problem to have no doubt.
Lester Andrews Starce
Wilmott Payne Coleman
Fletcher Neale McCluggage
Lohmann Hipwood Rayner
Cameron Daniher Morris
McInerny Dunkly Berry
Ah Chee W Ashcroft L Ashcroft Zorko
McCarthy/Bailey
You would think just like will Levi walks straight into the team and 35, 11 clearances and a goal in his VFL debut shows that is probably going to be on merit and not just for development as a future star.
I'm not sure that Bailey has ever been dropped so the obvious answer is Ah Chee. If Zorko doesn't continue his form into next year then he could be the guy to come out.
Then we would have to consider Marshall as well.
It's a great problem to have no doubt.
Hopefully no surprise trade requests this year then
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Mine.
Doedee, Andrews, Starcevich.
Wilmot, Payne, Coleman.
Fletcher, Neale, McCluggage.
Lohmann, Hipwood, McCarthy.
Cameron, Daniher, Morris.
McInerney, Dunkley, Berry.
W.Ashcroft, Bailey, Zorko, Rayner, Reville.
Pushing for a spot- L.Ashcroft, Brain, Gardiner, Ah Chee, Sharp, Beecken, McLachlan, Answerth.
I would make a spot for Petracca when he is traded in.
I'm expecting 5 on the bench from 2025, no subs.
- Apr 24, 2020
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Unless it nets us Petracca somehow then lets really hope not.
I'm not going to be upset if Bailey decides to leave. He isn't best 23 in my mind.
Yep I like the idea of Reville being in and subject to no hiccups this time around with his recovery I think the club will have Doedee in the mix.Mine.
Doedee, Andrews, Starcevich.
Wilmot, Payne, Coleman.
Fletcher, Neale, McCluggage.
Lohmann, Hipwood, McCarthy.
Cameron, Daniher, Morris.
McInerney, Dunkley, Berry.
W.Ashcroft, Bailey, Zorko, Rayner, Reville.
Pushing for a spot- L.Ashcroft, Brain, Gardiner, Ah Chee, Sharp, Beecken, McLachlan, Answerth.
I would make a spot for Petracca when he is traded in.
I'm expecting 5 on the bench from 2025, no subs.
Goes to show the depth we will have next year as a result of some of the younger players exposure this year. KPP wise we will still be light but for mids/flankers having the likes of Levi, Ah Chee, McKenna, Answerth, Sharp and Brain as depth plus McLachlan and Beecken if they stay on and improve after a full pre season will be huge. FWIW I do think Levi Ashcroft will be straight in. Probably at the expense of Brucey Reville in your side. And Ah Chee probably gets a nod if not over Bruce but with another pre season I see Reville as an AFL footballer for sure. Even if he is outside the best 23 he will play plenty of games. I am also hopeful they drop the sub and just have 5 on the bench from next year.
Will always be injuries to someone so no probs he will be in.
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I wonder if we can repurpose Linc as a defensive mid? His pressure would be bloody handy 
He has been down this year but I would be very worried about losing his speed as it’s something we still lack across the board IMO - something we know won’t be addressed by Ashcroft and Marshall arriving.
Also, injury free and confidence back, he has proven goal sense which is a tremendous quality. His two GF goals last year, his shot after the siren etc prove he can stand up under pressure. 2024 isn’t his year, but I’m sure with a big pre season he will bounce back.
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If Petracca is gettable, what would a deal cost? I assume two first round picks plus change at least. Or a first round, a future first round, and a player. Its hard to see how it could be achievable, but is worth pursuing if he has any interest in Brisbane. It appears he genuinely wants out, but is contracted to 2029. I guess there will be a need to offload some current players for currency for a deal like this.
Having in mind that draft picks will be need for Levi and Sam Marshall.
Currently Brisbane only have picks 14, 52 and 68, for a total of 1466 points. The annual merry-go-round of pick swaps will greatly improve the total points, but lots more are needed.
If they decide to trade Bailey, what is he worth? I think he would be seen as great get by other clubs, but he gives me the impression that he has reached his potential at Brisbane. Great in flashes, but no significant growth over the last couple of years.
What is Prior and Dev worth if they are traded to the west?
What is Connor McKenna, Madden, and Answerth worth?
Is Jarryd Lyons worth anything? North are looking at Viney and Wines at the moment, so if they want mature player/mentors, Jarryd could fit a need.
Fine balance between a focus on the premiership window, which could be open for only a couple of more years, and starting a mini rebuild.
Early wish list is:-
Ins - Petracca (you have to wish even if there is the slimmest of chances), Levi, Marshall, Tom Gillet, Ryan Gilder, Ty Gallop, Grainger-Barras (Hawthorn), Sampson Ryan (Richmond), and Bailey Scott (North). The last two being Queenslanders so they might be able to be lured back, but at what trade price. And lastly a small speedy forward.
Outs - Robertson, Prior, Michael, Lyons, McKenna, Madden, Answerth, Kalin Lane, Craven and Joyce.
