List Mgmt. 2024 List management Discussion

[Mat Mann]

This is solely for list management discussion, Trades discussion goes in the trade thread, and Draft prospect discussion goes in it's relevant thread.

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: Contract Status

Name Final Year Years Service* Status Angus Hastie 2025 2 Unknown Angus McLennan 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Anthony Caminiti 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Arie Schoenmaker 2025 2 Unknown Ben Paton 2024 7 Non-Free Agent Brad Crouch 2025 5 Non-Free Agent Bradley Hill 2027 8 Restricted Free Agent Callum Wilkie 2027 9 Restricted Free Agent Cooper Sharman 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Daniel Butler 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Darcy Wilson 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Dougal Howard 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Hugo Garcia 2025 2 Unknown Hunter Clark 2025 8 Restricted Free Agent Isaac Keeler 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Jack Hayes 2024 3 Non-Free Agent Jack Higgins 2027 7 Non-Free Agent Jack Sinclair 2027 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Jack Steele 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent James Van Es 2024 2 DELISTED Jimmy Webster 2024 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Josh Battle 2024 8 UFA - leaving for Hawthorn Lance Collard 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Liam Henry 2027 4 Non-Free Agent Liam O'Connell 2025 2 Unknown Liam Stocker 2024 2 Unrestricted Free Agent Marcus Windhager 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Mason Wood 2024 4 UFA + 3 years (2027) Mattaes Phillipou 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Matthew Allison 2024 4 DELISTED Max Hall 2025 2 Non-Free Agent Max Heath 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Max King 2026 8 Restricted Free Agent Mitchito Owens 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Olli Hotton 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Paddy Dow 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Riley Bonner 2024 1 DELISTED Rowan Marshall 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent Ryan Byrnes 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Sebastian Ross 2024 13 DELISTED Tim Membrey 2024 10 Unrestricted Free Agent Tom Campbell 2024 3 DELISTED Zaine Cordy 2025 3 Non-Free Agent Zak Jones 2024 5 Non-Free Agent * Years service at end of contract.

Spoiler: Trade/Draft periods

Free Agency - Friday, October 4 and will run until Friday, October 11.
Trade Period - Monday, October 7 and will run until Wednesday, October 16.
National Draft - Round One - Wednesday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the
National Draft - The rest - Thursday, November 21.
Rookie and Pre-Season Draft - Friday, November 22.

 

[hayes]

How good is it reading about the same thing in two different threads.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Windhager and Owens emergencies wtf

Yeah well, means we got fair depth

 

[akaifu]

FB: Wilkie, Doug, Webster
HB: Nas, Caminiti, Sinclair
C: Wood, Steele, Wilson
HF: Hill, King, Owens
FF: Rowan, Sharman, Higgins
RR: Soldo, Phillipou, Windhager
INT: Macrae, Butler, Byrnes, Henry

Clark stiff. Windy to rotate through half back as the 7th defender

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

2025 on list

1. A.Cole- could be? classed as Sandy rookie, played 2-3 games.
2. D.Houston
3. S.Lalor
4. E.Peckett
5. Ruckman???
6. A.Tomlinson
7. L.Trainor

Off List

1. Allison
2. Battle
3. Bonner
4. Campbell
5. Paton
6. Ross
7. Van Es

 

[akaifu]

2025 on list

1. A.Cole- could be? classed as Sandy rookie, played 2-3 games.
2. D.Houston
3. S.Lalor
4. E.Peckett
5. Ruckman???
6. A.Tomlinson
7. L.Trainor

Off List

1. Allison
2. Battle
3. Bonner
4. Campbell
5. Paton
6. Ross
7. Van Es

Cole
Peckett
Hofmann
Lalor/Langford
Split pick 8 (Hotton&Hynes)
Kpp (pick 24)
Macrae
Ruckman (Soldo?)
Tomlinson

Allison
TC
Bonner
JVE
Ross
Battle
Membrey/Hayes
Paton
Crouch
Hotton?

We will have at least 8 changes, I can guarantee that. Likely more outs than ins so we leave a spot open (we had a max 45 player list this year)

 

[Bill Crouse]

FB: Wilkie, Doug, Webster
HB: Nas, Caminiti, Sinclair
C: Wood, Steele, Wilson
HF: Hill, King, Owens
FF: Rowan, Sharman, Higgins
RR: Soldo, Phillipou, Windhager
INT: Macrae, Butler, Byrnes, Henry

Clark stiff. Windy to rotate through half back as the 7th defender

That looks pretty good, although I would be surprised if we got another ruck. I know they are all different types of players, but unless Butler can turn back the clock, I would have Clark and Garcia well ahead of him.

 

[CursingFijian]

Onya Purple.

 

[Joffaboy]

He signed on a 6 year deal, the afl only take into consideration 5. So if it is 850 then all we need them to do is front end it and it bumps the 5 over 900. Band one.

That's what the supposed Hawk itk told Baker on the other thread.
Sounds like it was worked out between clubs.
Scenario like
Saints: we will offer more to keep him
Hawks: he wants to come how about first 5 @900k and last at 550k will that suit you?
Saints: ok let's check with AFL
Saints: ok deal we wont increase offer, and alsoget band1 according to AFL.
Saints Contact: hey yipper.


On SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Diehard Saint]

Onya Purple.


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What a d*ckhead.
His team has been given SO many gifts in the last few years, and will continue to get rewarded for trashing their own list.

 

[Saintbloke]

Yeah, umm, well, that bit there about half way down where you're sort of trying to make out that Brett Ratten wasn't shit, but you're sort of skipping over all the shit and then hanging your own shit onto the club based on the shit you're trying to make up. That there is why you have no credibility. The couple of gooses that liked your post were gringo and a hawks supporter. I'm gringo was just appreciating the art form though.

Sad to read your response..seems like "sh*t" is your standby word..maybe you're better off posting on the Collingwood forum. Credibility is in the eye of the beer holder.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

What a d*ckhead.
His team has been given SO many gifts in the last few years, and will continue to get rewarded for trashing their own list.

Completely unhinged

 

[Silkie]

Onya Purple.


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Such a w***er

 

[yipper]

That's what the supposed Hawk itk told Baker on the other thread.
Sounds like it was worked out between clubs.
Scenario like
Saints: we will offer more to keep him
Hawks: he wants to come how about first 5 @900k and last at 550k will that suit you?
Saints: ok let's check with AFL
Saints: ok deal we wont increase offer, and alsoget band1 according to AFL.
Saints Contact: hey yipper.


On SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

sounds about right Joff..

 

[Premium]

Some people in the media are saying its as little as 50k difference.

In other words, they all actually have no idea at all. Hell, none of them had any definite idea of what the outcome was going to be even yesterday.

The media get their information almost exclusively from player managers (outside of leaky places like the demons atm) who will drop ballpark figures to influence the deals they are attempting to get over the line.

As soon as that deal is reached they are not going to be offering any more information unless their client says they can and when the contracts are actually signed they will have confidentiality agreements. This is why no one in the media can ever give actual specific dollar values, they can only do a best educated guess.

Contract size , money and other benefits they have offered to him would of swayed the move.
who knows what else they offered - a job for his wife , baby sitting , car , etc

 

[Premium]

Maybe Ratts enticed Josh with more wing time.

We know Battle can fill many roles knowing he was in the top 10 in endurance at the club - the reason they tried him on a wing - we made him into a defender but the guy could of easily been a forward however Membery had his role.

 

[sauce_head]

Contract size , money and other benefits they have offered to him would of swayed the move.
who knows what else they offered - a job for his wife , baby sitting , car , etc

An ambassador role at Visy doing absolutely nothing.

Oops, sorry. Got my salary cap cheats confused.

 

[ScrappyDo]

Sad to read your response..seems like "sh*t" is your standby word..maybe you're better off posting on the Collingwood forum. Credibility is in the eye of the beer holder.

I'm also sad to read your response.

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Onya Purple.


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I'd love to know why Purple doesn't think St Kilda deserves a first rounder.

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Cole
Peckett
Hofmann
Lalor/Langford
Split pick 8 (Hotton&Hynes)
Kpp (pick 24)
Macrae
Ruckman (Soldo?)
Tomlinson

Allison
TC
Bonner
JVE
Ross
Battle
Membrey/Hayes
Paton
Crouch
Hotton?

We will have at least 8 changes, I can guarantee that. Likely more outs than ins so we leave a spot open (we had a max 45 player list this year)

Well, maybe I agree on more delistings, but if they were to be both Hayes & Membrey, that leaves us with a shortage of key-forward depth. And don't know how we are gonna find any to replace them in this draft & trade.

Out of your list, I agree on Paton, if Bonner can be delisted after playing 19 games, why would we keep Paton, don't need him as depth even.

Crouch, only if his knee is stuffed, & he has actually
triggered an extra year contract.

Hotton is still only a 19 y.o whose 1st season was pretty much written off due to back injury. So would be stiff.

I named 7, so reckon you are being abit picky haha.

 

[Banger9798]

Is there some sort of softwear virus that automatically links the words "Saints have shown interest" under any news article about a bog average player leaving an oppo club?

 

[seasonedsainter]

I enjoyed the '66 flag..cheers

OK great stuff, jealous! My dad was there acually. I'm sure you'll enjoy our next one too.

 

[kernelT]

How good is it reading about the same thing in two different threads.

How dare you.

George move this to the trade thread complaints thread please.

 

[Mav3rick]

FB: Wilkie, Doug, Webster
HB: Nas, Caminiti, Sinclair
C: Wood, Steele, Wilson
HF: Hill, King, Owens
FF: Rowan, Sharman, Higgins
RR: Soldo, Phillipou, Windhager
INT: Macrae, Butler, Byrnes, Henry

Clark stiff. Windy to rotate through half back as the 7th defender

Why would we want soldo when he couldn’t even beat out Jordon Sweet and wants to move again a year after going to Port?

Marshall was almost AA ruck this year, only reason to get another ruck is if a gun emerges who wants to come to us. Soldo is not that.

 

[Sarcoidevo]

I'd love to know why Purple doesn't think St Kilda deserves a first rounder.

Because Battle is a gun defender and that only equals Band 2

Sliding Doors is never wrong

 

[Sarcoidevo]

Is there some sort of softwear virus that automatically links the words "Saints have shown interest" under any news article about a bog average player leaving an oppo club?

It's called Herpes Journosimplex ... and it's got nothing to do with computer software