List Mgmt. 2024 List management Discussion

[Mat Mann]

This is solely for list management discussion, Trades discussion goes in the trade thread, and Draft prospect discussion goes in it's relevant thread.

Spoiler: Draft Order

Spoiler: Contract Status

Name Final Year Years Service* Status Angus Hastie 2025 2 Unknown Angus McLennan 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Anthony Caminiti 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Arie Schoenmaker 2025 2 Unknown Ben Paton 2024 7 Non-Free Agent Brad Crouch 2025 5 Non-Free Agent Bradley Hill 2027 8 Restricted Free Agent Callum Wilkie 2027 9 Restricted Free Agent Cooper Sharman 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Daniel Butler 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Darcy Wilson 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Dougal Howard 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Hugo Garcia 2025 2 Unknown Hunter Clark 2025 8 Restricted Free Agent Isaac Keeler 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Jack Hayes 2024 3 Non-Free Agent Jack Higgins 2027 7 Non-Free Agent Jack Sinclair 2027 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Jack Steele 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent James Van Es 2024 2 DELISTED Jimmy Webster 2024 13 Unrestricted Free Agent Josh Battle 2024 8 UFA - leaving for Hawthorn Lance Collard 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Liam Henry 2027 4 Non-Free Agent Liam O'Connell 2025 2 Unknown Liam Stocker 2024 2 Unrestricted Free Agent Marcus Windhager 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Mason Wood 2024 4 UFA + 3 years (2027) Mattaes Phillipou 2026 4 Non-Free Agent Matthew Allison 2024 4 DELISTED Max Hall 2025 2 Non-Free Agent Max Heath 2024 4 Non-Free Agent Max King 2026 8 Restricted Free Agent Mitchito Owens 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera 2025 4 Non-Free Agent Olli Hotton 2024 2 Non-Free Agent Paddy Dow 2026 3 Non-Free Agent Riley Bonner 2024 1 DELISTED Rowan Marshall 2027 11 Unrestricted Free Agent Ryan Byrnes 2024 5 Non-Free Agent Sebastian Ross 2024 13 DELISTED Tim Membrey 2024 10 Unrestricted Free Agent Tom Campbell 2024 3 DELISTED Zaine Cordy 2025 3 Non-Free Agent Zak Jones 2024 5 Non-Free Agent * Years service at end of contract.

Spoiler: Trade/Draft periods

Free Agency - Friday, October 4 and will run until Friday, October 11.
Trade Period - Monday, October 7 and will run until Wednesday, October 16.
National Draft - Round One - Wednesday, November 20 followed by the remaining rounds of the
National Draft - The rest - Thursday, November 21.
Rookie and Pre-Season Draft - Friday, November 22.

 

[Joffaboy]

I know its been posted

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[Joffaboy]

Both good moves.
Wood is as fit as a trout and can easily play until 34.
Takes Butler up to 30 years old. Is a very good defensive forward and stops the opposition walking it out of defence.

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[BrutThough]

Was initially a bit surprised about Wood getting 3 years but the development coach aspect means he will be good addition to the list no matter what.

 

[Dr Spaceman]

Outside of what he does with the younger players, Wood is an outstanding modern winger.

He’s currently on 66 games for the Saints.

Let’s get him to a hundy

 

[gringo2011]

Mr.Byrnes, I actually like him, that goal he kicked against the blues, he looked kinda embarrassed (shy lad I think).But leadership? What the.

Was school and Sandringham captain from memory.

 

[Armitage2Riewoldt]

He’s currently on 66 games for the Saints.

Let’s get him to a hundy

Fingers crossed he plays exactly 66 more! (And perhaps a few finals ...oh it's 23 games a year these days isn't it)

 

[Dr Spaceman]

He’s currently on 66 games for the Saints.

Let’s get him to a hundy

Fingers crossed he plays exactly 66 more! (And perhaps a few finals ...oh it's 23 games a year these days isn't it)

Well 66 is a special number for the Saints

 

[Nutsngum]

Outside of what he does with the younger players, Wood is an outstanding modern winger.

Too bad as long as ****s like Cornes is on the AA selectors panel no actual wingers will ever be AA.

 

[Mav3rick]

Coz we've delisted TC and have zero backup for Ro.
They can then run Ro through the forward line and think about letting Membrey go which frees up a list spot and some cash.

We need to move some pieces around. Ro is a legend but that counts for nothing if it doesn't translate to an effective midfield.

If Ivan Soldo is the solution to our midfield problems I’ll happily eat my shoe

 

[Saintscomemarchingin]

Was school and Sandringham captain from memory.

Kids, he was probably just the best player, had to give it to him. I was captain of my school cricket team, what a joke.

 

[austinnn]

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Captain, my captain. Good move!


Continue the furniture theme, from Steel(e) to Wood. Next, get Darren Glass and ex-Saint Nick Stone out of retirement.

(Though I guess Nick's got slightly bigger fish to fry right now)

 

[austinnn]

Kids, he was probably just the best player, had to give it to him. I was captain of my school cricket team, what a joke.

I've read various things here and there leading me to feel that Byrnes is still is somewhat a guy that leads the group. He might be a Geary type.

We need to unearth strong leaders at our club, it's a massive weakness currently.

 

[SteeleSaints]

I love Mason Wood

32

Mason Wood

Age

31

Ht

192cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

7.8

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.2

4star

CL

0.3

2star

D

8.3

2star

K

2.7

1star

HB

5.7

3star

M

1.7

2star

T

1.3

2star

CL

0.0

1star

D

15.8

4star

K

8.6

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.6

3star

but I thought he was starting to slow this year and not getting to the same contests he had the year before. He definitley wasnt clunking the marks he did the previous year. I wonder if 3 years is a bit excessive for Mason? Either way he has been an amazing find for the club both on and off the field.

 

[The Punter]

I love Mason Wood but I thought he was starting to slow this year and not getting to the same contests he had the year before. He definitley wasnt clunking the marks he did the previous year. I wonder if 3 years is a bit excessive for Mason? Either way he has been an amazing find for the club both on and off the field.

It's probably a year too long in fairness but I doubt it's massive coin.

 

[pebblesofsand]

I love Mason Wood but I thought he was starting to slow this year and not getting to the same contests he had the year before. He definitley wasnt clunking the marks he did the previous year. I wonder if 3 years is a bit excessive for Mason? Either way he has been an amazing find for the club both on and off the field.

3 years in media speak.

In reality probably a guaranteed two years with a high trigger point for a 3rd year.

 

[BrutThough]

I love Mason Wood but I thought he was starting to slow this year and not getting to the same contests he had the year before. He definitley wasnt clunking the marks he did the previous year. I wonder if 3 years is a bit excessive for Mason? Either way he has been an amazing find for the club both on and off the field.

I agree it's a year too long. Ideally, next year is his last year as a starting 22 player because we nail this upcoming draft and have younger players demanding selection.

 

[dudeintheswamp]

It's easy to forget about Mason's injury in March. Really nasty, knocked out cold and a broken collarbone that required surgery. Out for six or seven weeks from memory.

 

[Joffaboy]

Kids, he was probably just the best player, had to give it to him. I was captain of my school cricket team, what a joke.

Was captain of Sandringham Dragons, one of the most successful under-age rep teams since the early TAC days, but yeah what a joke hey?



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[StCicatriz]

I love Mason Wood but I thought he was starting to slow this year and not getting to the same contests he had the year before. He definitley wasnt clunking the marks he did the previous year. I wonder if 3 years is a bit excessive for Mason? Either way he has been an amazing find for the club both on and off the field.

there might be a view to transition him to coaching

agreed he's showed signs of age

 

[SteeleSaints]

We do need elite mids but the future is bright when looking at our younger group. We already have the core of a very good side moving forward there are plenty of positives.

Sharman probably the most improved player on the list, hopefully that continues.
Wanganeen-Milera our best young player who had another outstanding year, will win several AA awards.
Caminiti had an injury and form interrupted year, but can only improve with the more games he plays.
Owens had a poor year by comparison, hopefully he can get things going again next year.
Windhager had an injury interrupted year, missed 9 games but showed improvement. Has the work ethic to make an A grader.
Phillipou also had a patchy year only playing 13 senior games, we saw late he had turned the corner. Projects as an absolute star!
Wilson couldnt have done much more, but he still has improvement ahead. Exciting
Collard played 3 games, but has a heap of development ahead before we get value for his draft position.
Hastie played 5 games and showed enough he will become a very good flanker/wingman. Needs size...
Garcia played 9 games a number as the sub, but showed enough to suggest the kid has it all and is a future A grader.
Shoenmaker got 3 games and showed enough with development he will be a player. His kicking is elite...

Players that havent debuted:

Keeler continued to improve and benefitted from his games playing VFL in defence. Like King still needs to up his 2nd and 3rd efforts.
Heath started slowly but when given the No 1 ruck spot blossomed. Still has work to do but has a future.
McLennan played a couple of well deserved games, his intercept marking is his strength but needs to get more offensive run.
Hotton had an injury riddled first year, did ok this year but if he remains will need a big lift next year.
OConnell plays with a presence but is coming from a long way back.

I expect to see a couple of other lads added to the Cat B rookie list this year being another Irish lad and Hofmann if he is not bid on.

 

[The Punter]

Just for everyone's edification

Both 23 games

Owens good year: 346 disposals, 26 goals, 87 tackles, 66 inside 50s, 23 contested marks, 15 marks inside 50, 10 goal assists.
Owens poor year: 283 disposals, 20 goals, 62 tackles, 42 inside 50s, 18 contested marks, 23 marks inside 50, 16 goal assists.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

Fellas I reckon that ship has sailed...
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Wonder what he’s doing now.
Our bf board absolutely loved him until he actually got a couple of games and we all went quiet.

 

[Saintos The ITK]

It's probably a year too long in fairness but I doubt it's massive coin.

He might be the only senior continuity between now and three years time.

 

[Hayes4PM]

Wonder what he’s doing now.
Our bf board absolutely loved him until he actually got a couple of games and we all went quiet.

The VFL GOAT. He was robbed I tell ya.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

Was initially a bit surprised about Wood getting 3 years but the development coach aspect means he will be good addition to the list no matter what.

2 years as a player, 1 as a player/coach.

Its a good deal and the bloke is good for the culture of the club.