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Fyfe and Walters will more than likely play under 15 games between them.
Hopefully JOM has another good year, but I can see him getting phased out like Aish has this year in 2026.
Getting someone like Baker for this reason, would help.
He's so ****ing good and is goal hungry which is what all of our current small forwards lack.
I'm hopeful it's NoD.
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OK, lets sign Baker up. Surprised he is so high, and the cost is a lot lower.
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I dont have the same concerns on depth as you do. I think our bottom 6 is comparable to anyone that's not GWS and we need 1 or two more actual stars. I also think getting stars improves your depth and that regardless, improving players 20 to 30 on the list is extremely easy to do and can be done with picks 20+ without a fuss.
This is also the perfect draft to do that while bringing in a Bolton.
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If Isiah Winder was playing as well for Peel, as he is for his current WAFL side we would be all asking for him to come in.
Why shouldn't we be looking at him. Pretty sure he is available as a DFA.
Why shouldn't we be looking at him. Pretty sure he is available as a DFA.
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I agree with the bit in bold, it is a great draft.
Do you want to be watching Banfield play 22 games next year?
If we swap Switta with Bolton, then Banfield will be in the 22 again. If you consider Walters, Fyfe, JOM, Aish all getting older and we have had minimal injuries all year he will be locked into the 22.
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I have faith Simpson can run past him with another offseason and strangely enough, think your best 25 is fine if Banners is the 25th best player on your list. I also wouldnt be trading Switta for reasons already said. Walters and Aish arent best 25 anymore so it doesnt matter.
We can get Bolton and still draft 3-4 to players very easily and as much as you want draftees, there is minimal chance JL picks them ahead of Banners next year anyway so you'll be waiting till 2026 at least for that
Maybe we are looking at him.
Maybe he’s a last minute rookie pick up or 4th round selection type pick up.
But he’s not worthy of discussion, he’s a relative nobody.
Not saying he can’t play, but we have our heads buried if we’re passing on guys like Bolton and Baker because we’re looking at Winder.
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Trying to think the last time we had a really good draft pick, not playing.
I will back JL, that is a player has a really good preseason that he will play them. Erasmus and Johnson have not really smashed the door down.
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Athletically is where Hamish struggles.
Winder is an athletic freak.
Agility 8.18
2km 6:51
20m sprint 2.873 seconds
92cm and 90 cms one foot vertical jump
76cms for 2 foot vertical jump
If he is committed off the field, then we should draft him.
You've missed out clearance numbers. Bolton is an elite centre square clearance player. Big point of difference over those other guys. Burst from stoppage is something we lack. Ideally you'd want size to go with it, but Bolton at least provides the breakaway speed.
And you would be better off using 2022-2023 stats for Bolton. I think he has had one foot out the door this year, Richmond are woeful, and Yze has also been using him weirdly (e.g. as a pseudo KPF target).
Another thing on Bolton. He loves playing at Optus. The Freo game was obviously an audition. And that's not hindsight. People were calling it as such at the time. Look at his games at Optus over the last 4 years. Very impressive. One dud game (low scoring slugfest ... raining?), and the rest of them he was in the top couple of Richmond players and polled Brownlow votes in most of them. Take out the dud game and he averages 24 disposals, 6 marks, 4 clearances, 2.4 goals, 1.3 Brownlow votes (if he gets 1 this year), 5 coaches votes, and 120 SC points.
| Year | Venue | Description | Date | Opponent | Result | K | HB | D | M | G | B | T | GA | I50 | CL | CG | BL | CV | DT | SC |
| 2024 | Optus | Round 17 | Jul-06 | Dockers | Loss 54-105 | 14 | 2 | 16 | 7 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 0 | 4 | 2 | 3 | ? | 2 (5th) | 102 | 98 |
| 2024 | Optus | Round 5 | Apr-14 | Eagles | Loss 70-109 | 15 | 6 | 21 | 8 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 5 | 2 | ? | 1 (5th) | 105 | 129 |
| 2023 | Optus | Round 18 | Jul-16 | Eagles | Win 98-60 | 13 | 10 | 23 | 5 | 2 | 4 | 3 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 6 (2nd) | 99 | 105 |
| 2023 | Optus | Round 13 | Jun-10 | Dockers | Win 85-70 | 22 | 11 | 33 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 5 | 0 | 11 | 6 | 5 | 2 | 9 (1st) | 124 | 151 |
| 2022 | Optus | Round 7 | Apr-29 | Eagles | Win 165-56 | 21 | 9 | 30 | 8 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 7 | 7 | 5 | 2 | 9 (1st) | 136 | 139 |
| 2021 | Optus | Round 20 | Aug-01 | Dockers | Loss 51-55 | 5 | 7 | 12 | 1 | 0 | 3 | 5 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 49 | 56 |
| 2021 | Optus | Round 13 | Jun-13 | Eagles | Loss 81-85 | 13 | 10 | 23 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 3 | 8 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 90 | 96 |
| 2021 | Optus | Round 12 | Jun-05 | Bombers | Win 123-84 | 11 | 10 | 21 | 5 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 3 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 7 (3rd) | 89 | 119 |
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Sam Edmund is reporting that Port have reignited their interest in Kossie Pickett but we have also made enquiries
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Winders stats are very similar to Kelly the year he got picked up. Have to say though the couple of times I've seen him play this year he looked like a WALF player to me. A good one, but still WAFL.
Plus he's playing on ball. Kelly didn't get drafted as mature ager on the expectation he'd become a starting AFL inside mid, it just happened. He'd be better off (even if Souths wouldn't) playing half forward and showing he demands a second go at the AFL there.
Plus he's playing on ball. Kelly didn't get drafted as mature ager on the expectation he'd become a starting AFL inside mid, it just happened. He'd be better off (even if Souths wouldn't) playing half forward and showing he demands a second go at the AFL there.
Yeah, I think its fine to have a team first attitude, but at some point someone needs to have the nads to just take the shot when the team stuff isn't on.
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We were looking at him for the mid-season draft but IIRC he chose to remain at Sowfs.
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Inject that right into my veins...
Baker would be the reason JOM is phased out IMO.
DFA can be done but I'd expect a Jeremy Sharp type situation would be more likely.
What happened was Sharp didn't nominate for the National Draft, we passed on our last rookie pick then listed Sharp day one of the SSP.
If Winder wanted to stay in WA and we wanted him I see no reason he'd nominate for the National Draft. Pick 60-odd could still get us an okay prospect but if it doesn't we just upgrade one of our rookies and look at others in the SSP.
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