List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets

[go_the_dockers]

This is perfectly reasonable, and hard to disagree with but... I really want that massive dopamine hit.

The only dopamine hit I want is a flag. I am not sure anything else will get close to it. Maybe getting to the grand final would be close.

I can't see how we can get Bolton and Warner, and with Warner looking likely I would avoid Bolton.

 

[Joao]

Firstly the Eagles have never been bad for a whole generation so at best it is likely they are down another 4-5 years then will be on the rise. So the time for us to act is now, we have got a big crop of 24 and unders that are very good, need to top up with a couple of free agents/trades to either add to the talented U24's we have or ones that sit in the 25-28 age group. If you look at a team like the Cats they hardly ever bottom out or go hard at the draft but supplement what they need through free agents and trades.

Their list demographics don't align with your analysis. 4-5 years is their best case, not their worst case.

 

[G Mus]

Reading between the lines of what the journos have been saying ... Bolton approached Freo, but we said we would not be able to take on his salary, so he's had to accept he stays at Richmond. If Bolton's deal is truly going into the 1.3 million territory as reported, there's no way we can afford that with our young guns and needing room for Warner (who would be a priority over Bolton).

That’s interesting, last I heard he was still confident

 

[DragoDelph]

Say the Tiges let Bolton go, ending up with say pick 8 & 14

Eagles should be ruthless and Ask for Pick 1, 8, 14 for Messiah Harley.

Go into this draft with picks 1, 2, 8 & 14. Set themselves up.

Rarely a generational player is the difference. Judd couldn't get the Blues a flag, but Judd, Kerr & Cousins did.

(Not saying the tiges are silly enough to do that, but someone might be. Roos pick 3, F1 & Logue?).

You'd have to look at it.

 

[DragoDelph]

That’s interesting, last I heard he was still confident

May very well be a case of "we'll look at it next year, unless Warner is not an option, then we can revisit late in trade period."

Priorities would be
1. Warner





2. Bolton

3. Baker
4. Draft & Future
5. Other options (Collard, Garcia, Richards, Motlop).

 

[DragoDelph]

Could we be looking at Ben Ainsworth

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Ben Ainsworth

Age

26

Ht

178cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.1

4star

K

8.1

3star

HB

6.1

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.3

3star

D

12.8

3star

K

8.3

3star

HB

4.5

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.3

3star

CL

0.3

2star

D

13.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

6.8

5star

M

3.8

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

0.8

3star

?
Fits the profile, hard worker. Restricted Free Agent.

No one has sight on what's happening. Maybe a bit of sleight of hand going on?

 

[DragoDelph]

1. Always expected next year anyway.
2. Interesting. wakojako was it you that had ight on this one? Any updates? Not concerned either way tbh, but may indicate a change in direction somewhere. (Us or Bakes)
3. lol

 

[Joao]

Could we be looking at Ben Ainsworth?
Fits the profile, hard worker. Restricted Free Agent.

No one has sight on what's happening. Maybe a bit of sleight of hand going on?

I don't think Ainsworth makes sense. He's a high half forward and I don't think he's an obvious upgrade on either Freddy or Switta.

 

[DragoDelph]

I don't think Ainsworth makes sense. He's a high half forward and I don't think he's an obvious upgrade on either Freddy or Switta.

Fair.

Haven't seen enough, and he gets talked about as a small. Just know he works hard.

 

[Joao]

Fair.

Haven't seen enough, and he gets talked about as a small. Just know he works hard.

I don't notice him a great deal, but I reckon he does something similar to Freddy.

He's not anything like Bolton or Cameron, for example, which are the types we actually need.

 

[MadMundy]

I don't see the appeal of Bolton, sure he can put together some elite performances here and there but he's too inconsistent to throw all our chips at.

 

[freo_leo29]

Aisnworth is choosing between gc and Essendon according to twomey

 

[freo_leo29]

Collard is about to sign a 2 year extension through to end of 2027 per Twomey on gettable

 

[freo_leo29]

Brodie was floated as a gettable midfielder but no source for this one, was just answering a question about if any mids are available, doesn't sound like any inside info

 

[SPEEDWAGON]

bolton is rubbish, would be a waste of our picks

 

[dexter_]

Collard is about to sign a 2 year extension through to end of 2027 per Twomey on gettable

That's surprising

 

[MadMundy]

At this point if Warner isn't gettable, we need to just keep our draft picks and focus on re-signing guys so we can keep the list together.

 

[Wizard]

At this point if Warner isn't gettable, we need to just keep our draft picks and focus on re-signing guys so we can keep the list together.

He is only not gettable if Sydney flat-out refuse to deal him inside of a contract.

If he wants to come home, he will ask for it to happen now, Sydney will likely refuse that request and he will have to wait.

Pending who his manager is, if we ask for a deal and it gets rejected, we will likely not hear about it.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

The only dopamine hit I want is a flag. I am not sure anything else will get close to it. Maybe getting to the grand final would be close.

I can't see how we can get Bolton and Warner, and with Warner looking likely I would avoid Bolton.

Losing a grand final is the worst. 2013 still hurts.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

I don't see the appeal of Bolton, sure he can put together some elite performances here and there but he's too inconsistent to throw all our chips at.

Not for 2 first rounders and paying him a Million+ a year. You pay that for gun mids who perform at a high level every week or elite key forwards.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Losing a grand final is the worst. 2013 still hurts.

Yeah, but getting to a grand final is great.

At this point, we have not won or lost, and are only one game from a flag.

 

[Docker82]

Yeah, but getting to a grand final is great.

At this point, we have not won or lost, and are only one game from a flag.

Would be a great moment that could be enjoyed for a few days for sure.

A premiership could be enjoyed for a lifetime, even if we win many more.

 

[wakojako]

1. Always expected next year anyway.
2. Interesting. wakojako was it you that had ight on this one? Any updates? Not concerned either way tbh, but may indicate a change in direction somewhere. (Us or Bakes)
3. lol


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Nah just to clarify, your original draft summary table with the percentages had Freo and Richmond close together with Eagles favoured to land him. My sources said that he was no chance of staying in Vic and has been negotiating with Freo which is why I said 50/50. If I may make an educated guess, I think he is using Freo to bump up his contract offer at West Coast. That would explain why he was deep in negotiations with Freo.

 

[DragoDelph]

Nah just to clarify, your original draft summary table with the percentages had Freo and Richmond close together with Eagles favoured to land him. My sources said that he was no chance of staying in Vic and has been negotiating with Freo which is why I said 50/50. If I may make an educated guess, I think he is using Freo to bump up his contract offer at West Coast. That would explain why he was deep in negotiations with Freo.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Given they've re-signed Yeo to 3 years, and feel that the list was underperforming under Simpson, the hubris could still be real.

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

Yeah, but getting to a grand final is great.

At this point, we have not won or lost, and are only one game from a flag.

Agreed. Thought you meant you'd be happy with getting there and losing.