List Mgmt. 2023 List Management thread

[Snuffaluphagus]

Mod notice after Mr Bob did a lot of annoying work in moving days of posts out of here. As we are heading into offseason, this thread is for 2023 list management only. Getting upset on previous trades can be taken to the vent thread. Lets keep this thread on track in the part of the year it's actually relevant

 

[s_wd6]

My point is if we leave ourselves open to such a scenario, they find a way to come true. It also goes against the idea of keeping stability in the playing group. If we wanted to keep Hamling then we should have made that possible.

The ONLY way we keep Hamling is either by offering him something ridiculous like 3 years on 350k to beat the other offers, OR by guaranteeing him a spot in the 22. Rhino has said Hamling's decision is based mostly on getting regular AFL games. Why on Earth would he stay here as depth when he's guaranteed a b22 spot at similar money at another club?

 

[WilloTree]

You might've missed it but hammer is goneski, likely to the swans

Cleary reckons pies will have a go now that brissy have announced doedee

I hope that's true. He's too good for WAFL.

 

[wakojako]

The ONLY way we keep Hamling is either by offering him something ridiculous like 3 years on 350k to beat the other offers, OR by guaranteeing him a spot in the 22. Rhino has said Hamling's decision is based mostly on getting regular AFL games. Why on Earth would he stay here as depth when he's guaranteed a b22 spot at similar money at another club?

Just give him some Woodside shares and a two year deal.

 

[rubydoomsday]

a lot of you are missing the point re: Hamling being 'just depth'. yes, we'll replace him easily.

he's proven quality depth. was as good as Pearce or better when cap was out.

the standard of your depth players matters.

he'll totally go to Swans, and play all year, make finals etc because McCartin retired, Mills is f'ed for the best part of a season.

oh and they're getting Grundy as ruck, playing solo ruck which is the way he rucks best.

we'll regret not offering him an extra year, even if we can't guarantee him more games.

 

[arsesmart]

Can someone please get that guy his Makita so he can STFU?

 

[Rockmelon]

I actually reckon Treacy could be a gun FB or CHB if we ever needed him to be

 

[CaseySibosadoHOF]

I’m not so sure we end up with compo pick for Hamling. Put it this way I’ll be pleasantly surprised if we do which will be a pick in mid 40’s.

There are a couple of highly rated KPD in VFL and state leagues. Consider some of these:

• Bailey Van De Heuval (200cm)
• Mutaz El Nour (192/193cm)
• Jacob Blight (Peel - 195cm)
• Tyreece Leiu (194cm)
• Jaiden Hunter whilst injured remains out of contract

A poster who claimed to be ITK did say Freo was very keen on Mutaz El Nour.

I think a few on that list (Mutaz is the one I know of) have been invited to state combines, which would probably be my minimum standard for 1 of these mature agers to be worth a list spot. Ethan Phillips won that young VFL player medal that usually leads to being drafted but he missed out last year.

Honestly I think I'd rather us back in Davies or Draper to help out in a pinch or someone like Ryan to play bigger like he did in 2020. If we need another KPP, just draft someone like Zakostelsky who won't be as AFL ready in 2024 as a mature ager, but doesn't have as many negative runs on the board as a mature ager.

 

[Cobbler]

I actually reckon Treacy could be a gun FB or CHB if we ever needed him to be

Can’t keep his feet. No.

 

[Mags98]

Not unless he has a time machine.

R 1 2023.

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Oliver
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by my math march comes before july and he turns 27 in july? am i missing something

 

[Lach72]

by my math march comes before july and he turns 27 in july? am i missing something

Yes

He'll be 26.75 by then

Willo is a pedant

 

[s_wd6]

a lot of you are missing the point re: Hamling being 'just depth'. yes, we'll replace him easily.

he's proven quality depth. was as good as Pearce or better when cap was out.

the standard of your depth players matters.

he'll totally go to Swans, and play all year, make finals etc because McCartin retired, Mills is f'ed for the best part of a season.

oh and they're getting Grundy as ruck, playing solo ruck which is the way he rucks best.

we'll regret not offering him an extra year, even if we can't guarantee him more games.

I'm all for us offering him one extra year, but I don't think that one extra year will be enough for him to stay when he's guaranteed senior playing opportunities elsewhere.

 

[WilloTree]

I actually reckon Treacy could be a gun FB or CHB if we ever needed him to be

Why?

What the actual fk are we discussing KPDs for? It's literally the last part of the ground id be remotely interested in.


Didn't Like Ryan make the AA as a KPD as well???

Holy crap balls Dex.

 

[Cobbler]

a lot of you are missing the point re: Hamling being 'just depth'. yes, we'll replace him easily.

he's proven quality depth. was as good as Pearce or better when cap was out.

the standard of your depth players matters.

he'll totally go to Swans, and play all year, make finals etc because McCartin retired, Mills is f'ed for the best part of a season.

oh and they're getting Grundy as ruck, playing solo ruck which is the way he rucks best.

we'll regret not offering him an extra year, even if we can't guarantee him more games.

You’re sadly assuming the worst if he leaves.

He could just as easily go to another club and quickly find himself as their depth. Then what?

Or he stays and plays no more than 3 games.

There’s also the possibility he reinjures himself. People bang on about Pearce or Cox going down completely ignoring the fact Hamling is just as injury prone.

When making arguments keep it balanced. You can’t say ‘What if Pearce blah blah’ and completely ignore Hamlings past.

 

[freo_leo29]

by my math march comes before july and he turns 27 in july? am i missing something

Nah you're right he will still be 26

 

[freo_leo29]

Go back.

Do the math again.

Delete your post. And this one.

Friendly advice.

You might want to check again, he will still be 26 at round 1

 

[apuchar]

Why?

What the actual fk are we discussing KPDs for? It's literally the last part of the ground id be remotely interested in.

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Didn't Like Ryan make the AA as a KPD as well???

Holy crap balls Dex.

Hamling is likely leaving. Chapman is always injured. Davies looks a couple of years away. Draper is a question mark. Seems to be a flanker. We are talking about next year.

 

[Mags98]

haha that was a quick delete willo

friendly advice alright

 

[freo_leo29]

Does doedee push us back again?

Definitely pushes saints back another pick, that 32 or whatever will be like 35 now, disgusting for Henry

 

[Purple Suit]

You might want to check again, he will still be 26 at round 1

Why is everyone arguing over Oliver's age when people have been saying Hamling is 31 for 10 pages now when he's 30.

 

[WilloTree]

haha that was a quick delete willo

friendly advice alright

Yeah, I got confused between Oliver and Hamling.

My bad.

Good pile on though. Really relevent.

 

[s_wd6]

Why is everyone arguing over Oliver's age when people have been saying Hamling is 31 for 10 pages now when he's 30.

Because he turns 31 two weeks into next season. Which is when he will next be playing a game.

 

[WilloTree]

Why is everyone arguing over Oliver's age when people have been saying Hamling is 31 for 10 pages now when he's 30.

Yeah, Just bf stuff.

Like bf posters care about that, but wont discuss the horrific trades we made.

It's insane, but also a bit funny at the same time.

 

[Mags98]

Yeah, I got confused between Oliver and Hamling.

My bad.

Good pile on though. Really relevent.

but you had the correct birthday in your own post...and hamlings 31

happy to be a smart alec yourself when you think youre right though

 

[WilloTree]

Because he turns 31 two weeks into next season. Which is when he will next be playing a game.

You're in the wrong thread.

 

[WilloTree]

but you had the correct birthday in your own post...and hamlings 31

happy to be a smart alec yourself when you think youre right though

Wait - did you just reply to my reply to your reply?

My goodness man. Go for a walk. Open the windows. Let the sun shine in. Turn off the screen and stop hammering the keys.

Life's short. Get out there.