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It's not that Richmond won't be keen to pay for some if we want, it's that the trade proposed was appropriate value without any money chucked in. Like, if you Bolton and Baker AND decent wages, it's all three firsts basically straight up
The talk of players like Sturt being forced out to bring in Bolton is shocking.
The amount we pay for Bolton will be huge, and the amount we will get for Sturt and Switta will be tiny.
This would be back to the freo of old, where we over pay for 1 player and lose 2 or 3, and don't improve as a team.
There is definitely an interesting set of mind games that have been played. Again, I'll keep believing Rhino that it was Bolton coming to us, does that then give us negotiating power to be upfront with both him and Richmond saying "look, your/he's Shai Bolton, of course we'd like you to play for us but if Richmond are open to trading him, we literally cant do it without 300k per year chucked in. We're already committed to Warner as well."Maybe, if Freo say we can’t do the trade without it, and the Tigers are going full rebuild, I doubt the money would be an issue for them, especially for the first couple of years.
The only caveat would be if Richmond want to throw bucketloads of cash at a player to bring them in, they could use the draft picks and cap space to go for Harley Reid for example - but even then I think they would be able to carry a portion of the salaries.
There's going to be best 22 players forced out if we somehow get Baker, Bolton and Warner over 2 years.Nobody thinks Sturt will be forced out if we sign Bolton, the fact that Sturt hasn't signed on (that we know of) is the reason people are saying he might go. The two have nothing to do with each other.
Dude read between the lines, we don't have time to pair those with more youngsters.Like Treacy & Amiss?
I wonder if the club banks on the preseason making Simpsons tackles / tank strong enough for AFL. His tackle numbers at Peel are pretty nutty.I do have concerns that if we bring Bolton in and lose Switta (our best pressure forward) that our shocking forward pressure will probably get even worse.
Emmett/Banfield are probably more appropriate Switta replacements on that front. Ewww
There would be some other players right next to him...I wonder if the club banks on the preseason making Simpsons tackles / tank strong enough for AFL. His tackle numbers at Peel are pretty nutty.
Yes but unlike them, when Simpson gets it, he doesnt turn an easy goal into an opponent rebound...There would be some other players right next to him...
There's going to be best 22 players forced out if we somehow get Baker, Bolton and Warner over 2 years.
I'll spew upI'm going to be so flat if Sturt goes. I've been a supporter since I dubbed him "fast Fyfe" on draft night.
If they low ball Sturt, I have SERIOUS worries about whoever is looking after contracts.Based on our history if Sturt leaves it's probably because we low-balled an offer to him and he went looking and found something elsewhere.
Yeah, Bolton alone isnt breaking that cap back, doubt Bolton and Baker do either. Bolton, Baker AND Warner (over two years) do create some hard choices.Of course but I highly doubt we haven't offered Sturt a contract on the off chance we get Bolton. I mean it was pretty obvious we were going to go hard at McDonald until Treacy showed he could be a generational forward, the Bolton chat has really only started a month or so ago.
People are worried for nothing, Sturt will re-sign.
"But he hasn't signed now!!!"
How do you know? Deal might already be done as far as we know.
There is definitely an interesting set of mind games that have been played. Again, I'll keep believing Rhino that it was Bolton coming to us, does that then give us negotiating power to be upfront with both him and Richmond saying "look, your/he's Shai Bolton, of course we'd like you to play for us but if Richmond are open to trading him, we literally cant do it without 300k per year chucked in. We're already committed to Warner as well."
I always take numbers with a grain of salt but there was an article saying he's owed 1.2m a year for the rest of the contract. We can not afford to pay him that much, surely.
Dude read between the lines, we don't have time to pair those with more youngsters.
If Sturt was leaving he would have left at the end of 2022 when we belatedly offered him a 1 year deal in September after refusing to play him in the senior team all year. Everyone thought he was being delisted. His entire motivation for staying was to stick with Freo and prove that he could actually play at AFL level.
Since then, he's locked down a long term WA girlfriend and this year has for the first time in his career cemented a spot in the 22. He ain't leaving
I am going to start workshopping some Newscorp trade week Freo related headlines
"Richmond prepared to HOLD Bolton to contract after 'INSULTING' Fremantle offer"
"Fremantle LEGEND urges Richmond to DEMAND Freo STAR in any trade for Bolton" (the legend is Sumich)
"Tigers tell Freo it's FIVE first rounders or NO DEAL!!!"
"AFL great says 'NO ONE WANTS TO DEAL WITH THEM' after Freo begin negotiations"
No doubt, but why can't we have both?Anything Sturt can do Bolton can do better. If we have to lose him to get Bolton I think we’ll survive