Well it doesn't seem to be a priority given the names we are linked to.
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Well it doesn't seem to be a priority given the names we are linked to.
Have you watched Garcia play? He doesn't impact scoring, his goals and goal assist numbers were both well below par. He essentially would play the Switta role if he left.
Berry might be best available at ports pick tbh
IF Martin gets on the park with any regularity he has shown he can impact both with turnovers and transition. It's just a massive massive if.
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I don't mind a throw at the stumps with Jack Martin. The cost will be very low and the reward if he plays could be great. BUT, if he's the player that JLo is getting to help with forward half pressure then thats a worry. As you said, he's more likely to play under 5 games than over.
fair chance Richmond will have that pick
Maybe that why have been linked with Richards & garcia?
Richards would be OK but he reportedly has a 4 year deal from Port so I highly doubt we match that and Garcia absolutely doesn't help with forward pressure. He's an inside mid playing HHF in the AFL, he gets his tackles from being an extra number at the contest not from harassing the ground ball inside 50s.
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Yeah, this is my great frustration.
We have interviewed Berry a lot, so I can hope we get him.
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This matches my thoughts 100%
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Martins pressure is very good when fit. Generally only an offensive threat when he's in and out of the team with injury but he was awesome defensively in the finals and in the patches he did get extended runs at playing time.
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Gotta love how posters who are all too happy to rag on other posters for “projecting” their views of different scenarios about jlo and the club in a negative light about what they did/didn’t do aka freo1997 etc on coaches playing injured players*
but then in the very next criticism “our team doesn’t value pressure “ they immediately project themselves - “oh nahhhhh that’s not true ,hE jUSt dOnT HaV dA pLAyeRs”
So your telling me despite the stats (basically the evidence) all year showing our pressure was sub par and nearly always below 180 and then in the final 3 weeks of our season on the line ,spot in the finals whilst our opponents regularly ran up ratings of 220+ we continued to hover around the 170 mark topping 200 only fleetingly in very small patches was all due to not having “the” players ??
Umm can some one enlighten me how our players are just so different to every other teams that they’re incapable of pressuring??
cope much?
* also yes medicos get things wrong , a lot more than you think btw ,see petracca as perfect example !… the bloke had to have a life saving operation ffs yet “qualified medicos AND ]Simon Goodwin were fine with him going back out on the field.
Hinkley put clearly concussed players back on the field before too… coaches want to win and medicos have previously said of the pressure they feel under to clear players .
But not our medicos and coach right?.. they’re different to other teams .. just like our players are not suited to pressuring as well I suppose!!?
News flash : People make mistakes , including Jlo!!
but then in the very next criticism “our team doesn’t value pressure “ they immediately project themselves - “oh nahhhhh that’s not true ,hE jUSt dOnT HaV dA pLAyeRs”
So your telling me despite the stats (basically the evidence) all year showing our pressure was sub par and nearly always below 180 and then in the final 3 weeks of our season on the line ,spot in the finals whilst our opponents regularly ran up ratings of 220+ we continued to hover around the 170 mark topping 200 only fleetingly in very small patches was all due to not having “the” players ??
Umm can some one enlighten me how our players are just so different to every other teams that they’re incapable of pressuring??
cope much?
* also yes medicos get things wrong , a lot more than you think btw ,see petracca as perfect example !… the bloke had to have a life saving operation ffs yet “qualified medicos AND ]Simon Goodwin were fine with him going back out on the field.
Hinkley put clearly concussed players back on the field before too… coaches want to win and medicos have previously said of the pressure they feel under to clear players .
But not our medicos and coach right?.. they’re different to other teams .. just like our players are not suited to pressuring as well I suppose!!?
News flash : People make mistakes , including Jlo!!
I agree, there are few options who can be brought in to help with forward half pressure.
Surely there is some improvement available by coaching the existing forwards to make chasing and tackling part of their game? Treacy and Switta are reasonable at it.
Players can definitely add strengths to their role within the team. Treacy for instance has greatly improved his marking this season and that has been part of what helped to elevate him into one of the best KPFs in the AFL.
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You could easily argue he has done this with Sturt, and he looks pretty good in the back half of the year.
I will back JL this year, but watch him closely. I also hope we give him a few more players in the forward line to work with, so he has a good chance of succeeding.
Yes I have watched him and he strikes me as exactly what the Cats and Hawks are doing with their 'small forwards' which I would call them forward midfielders. These teams have 3 Swittas in their forward lines.
No they don't, Cats have Miers who is similar to Switta but gets a lot more of the ball. The other smalls at the Cats are goal scoring threats, Garcia isn't.
Who are the three Swittas at the Hawks? All their smalls are capable of kicking multiple goals.
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Watson and Ginnivan are true small forwards, who may push up the ground but their primary responsibilities are tackle, kick goals and duck to draw high free kicks.
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According to Gettable - Martin does have some interest in a return to Queensland.
May not be guaranteed to head our way..
May not be guaranteed to head our way..
Think you underrate Garcia pressure
Yeah definitely Watson but Ginnivan isn't that small. My point is they are playing like mids, they both go up the ground and back.
If we get him I hope that's the case. Personally I think people look at his tackle numbers and assume that will translate to forward half pressure. I also don't want both Switta and Garcia in the same forward line when neither can kick a goal.
Genuine question - how do you know how many times we have interviewed various players?
I’ve seen this comment thrown about a lot “we have interviewed X player several times”
Unless people on here know Joe berry I cant see how that is possibly public knowledge?
Not having a go at all by the way just genuinely curious
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One of the in the know people, mentioned we had interview him the most of any draftee (or it could have been the top 2).
someone tagged me. I can't find the post.
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