List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[oldgoat]

He almost came over last year or the one before? but was injured and out for a long period so stayed in Ireland. We've been keen on him for a while now

Four years!
"We" clearly rate him.

 

[mattis117]

It may just be a throwaway line but this article suggests the Gaelic side that Ultan Kelm plays for will lose him to us.

I know he impressed in his few weeks training with us.

"With AFL side Fremantle Dockers still keen on Ultan Kelm, Fermanagh could soon lose one of their most valuable assets."

Fermanagh boss Kieran Donnelly reveals why he extended his contract

KIERAN DONNELLY will offer his players a licence to kill when he returns for a fourth season as Fermanagh boss. The Brookeborough man is pleased with the progress made by his side since he was appo…

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Could be bad news for Emmett. Great news for Freo though, a lot of pace and skill there

 

[Docker82]

Could be bad news for Emmett. Great news for Freo though, a lot of pace and skill there

The guy will be Category B rookie. Makes no difference to Emmett. He’s replacing Conrad Williams who we’ve already delisted and no one else. The only question is whether the other Irish bloke is a better option or whether there’s some guy from another sport (who hasn’t been registered footy player for three years) has enough potential to be a better option.

 

[silverscope]

Four years!
"We" clearly rate him.

Well, longer than I remembered it seems

 

[mattis117]

The guy will be Category B rookie. Makes no difference to Emmett. He’s replacing Conrad Williams who we’ve already delisted and no one else. The only question is whether the other Irish bloke is a better option or whether there’s some guy from another sport (who hasn’t been registered footy player for three years) has enough potential to be a better option.

Yes, I mean from a position perspective I'd expect Ultan would be playing as a forward.

 

[Cobbler]

More importantly, does Kelm have a nickname?

 

[_007_]

More importantly, does Kelm have a nickname?

Yeah he does.

Scot.

 

[Cobbler]

Yeah he does.

Scot.

Brit would make more sense!

 

[Bender571]

More importantly, does Kelm have a nickname?

Of Brunei?

 

[Lach72]

Of Brunei?

No.

Of Swing

 

[Monsterdarlz]

For the love of god please don’t give those smug pricks at punt road 9+10 for Bolton or a FRP for baker they are prancing around like it’s a done deal they own your x3 selections

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

I think Aish is better than O'Meara in almost every metric. Some will disagree of course, but that's my view.

JOM has better hair.

 

[JammoMonty]

I had someone at work claiming to be a friend of Warner's partner say they have decided to stay in Sydney. There's a lot of shit going around atm.

Warners partner Alice, lives in Perth.

 

[s_wd6]

JOM has better hair.

They’re both struggling in that department

 

[Heave Ho Bro]

They’re both struggling in that department

Where do they both rank on champion data

 

[Superkoops]

For the love of god please don’t give those smug pricks at punt road 9+10 for Bolton or a FRP for baker they are prancing around like it’s a done deal they own your x3 selections

I think if both Bolton and Baker are coming then both 9 and 10 will be going their way but something significant coming back. No way all three head off. My scenario sees both going but an upgrade of our 16 to either 15 or 12.

I think Richmond will do a deal with Brisbane to get 15 and the Rioli deal will involve pick 12. Richmond also have no need for the later picks 39,41,47.

Baker hasn’t decided as yet and could choose WC. Then for just Bolton the deal would be more like 9 + 27 or 9 + 16 with 21 coming back.

Richmond posters can think what they like.

 

[Superkoops]

Three or four years is quite a lot IMO.

Let’s say it takes Kelm two years to play a game - he’s 27 by then. Normally you’re thinking about drafting a player to replace a senior player when they’re around 28 or 29 so you can get two to three years development in before the younger player is expected to take over.

A 21/22 year old takes that time and, if things go well, they’ve still got 6-7 years of prime left to make a difference.

As I said I’d hope Kelm is way way better than the other Irish guy otherwise I’d rather allow the extra years to develop into a good footballer.

Btw Gaelic players can only take up one Category B rookie spot so it just makes the list spots argument a little stronger. Category A rookies most of the time are more likely to contribute tbh. Having said that you can upgrade from Category B to Category A so if an Irish player does really well year one or two making them a Category A and bringing in another Irish may help. As I said a few pages back I think it’s likely we make more list changes next year than this year so we might need to get creative with the draftees we do bring in.

Freo were first considering him end of 2021. He had a hip injury and we decided not to have an injured player take up cat-B list spot. Since recovering he has been playing good Gaelic football and practicing with AFL football. He turns 25 in December. If they feel he can contribute quite quickly then that may be the route they take and then with the younger Irish fella keep tabs on him over the next year or two.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

I think if both Bolton and Baker are coming then both 9 and 10 will be going their way but something significant coming back. No way all three head off. My scenario sees both going but an upgrade of our 16 to either 15 or 12.

I think Richmond will do a deal with Brisbane to get 15 and the Rioli deal will involve pick 12. Richmond also have no need for the later picks 39,41,47.

Baker hasn’t decided as yet and could choose WC. Then for just Bolton the deal would be more like 9 + 27 or 9 + 16 with 21 coming back.

Richmond posters can think what they like.

I think this is crazy optimistic from you, though I'd love just to laugh at a few Richmond peeps

 

[Cobbler]

I understand all the goodwill etc that would go into player trade requests.

But, I’m offering pick 9 and loose change for Bolton. This is a deep draft and Tigers will want that pick 9 desperately.

If they don’t accept early, I’m placing 9 up for auction. We’re talking fine margins in this draft. Do they want to lose 9 for 10? That’s a potential rival side getting a player they want.

This is a great draft to leverage picks.

 

[FD2646]

I understand all the goodwill etc that would go into player trade requests.

But, I’m offering pick 9 and loose change for Bolton. This is a deep draft and Tigers will want that pick 9 desperately.

If they don’t accept early, I’m placing 9 up for auction. We’re talking fine margins in this draft. Do they want to lose 9 for 10? That’s a potential rival side getting a player they want.

This is a great draft to leverage picks.

I like the cut of your jib.

 

[fnerd]

For the love of god please don’t give those smug pricks at punt road 9+10 for Bolton or a FRP for baker they are prancing around like it’s a done deal they own your x3 selections

Yeah they’re insufferable.

Worst part is they’re self fulfilling.

The more the numpties “state” what their getting , either through king numpty supporter himself ,Jon Ralphs articles or just through posts by (more than just a few) posters on BF the more it becomes “fact” to the majority of them

And it’s not just with freo but they’re running the same delusion with GC and WC draft picks as well

 

[DragoDelph]

The draft change adding another element to upcoming trade frenzy

Cal Twomey takes a look at how changes to the points model could impact this year's Trade Period

www.afl.com.au

 

[Cobbler]

I like the cut of your jib.

I’ll also add that I’m at peace at losing our picks if we bring in Bolton and another recognised player.
Would love to take a pick in the first round, but at peace if they all go.

The dream is Chad wins a flag and asks for a trade!

 

[bellie4pm]

He has been training with the AFL ball for the past few years and sending videos to the club regularly so he seems quite professional. I heard that the club was surprised how far he has progressed.

I agree with you his age is getting up there but he still has his pace.

The younger boy looks quick as well but the problem is list spots are tight.

This guy is fast, tough tough, coordinated, and reads the play way in advance. Picture a michael fredericks crossed with a lachie schulz…
hoping we pick him up as a cat b rookie - free hit.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

I think if both Bolton and Baker are coming then both 9 and 10 will be going their way but something significant coming back. No way all three head off. My scenario sees both going but an upgrade of our 16 to either 15 or 12.

I think Richmond will do a deal with Brisbane to get 15 and the Rioli deal will involve pick 12. Richmond also have no need for the later picks 39,41,47.

Baker hasn’t decided as yet and could choose WC. Then for just Bolton the deal would be more like 9 + 27 or 9 + 16 with 21 coming back.

Richmond posters can think what they like.

Yeah you're dreaming.