List Mgmt. 2024 List Management thread - Trade Targets Part 2

[fnerd]

Far from it. His hair just looks like straw.

So he’s a .. straw -mann and not a loh- mann?

….. Ok I’ll see myself out

 

[Cobbler]

I do love the left field hilarity of someone like Brad Close being linked to Freo.

I also love the instant analysis of him by some.

Is a solid player.

 

[oldgoat]

Far from it. His hair just looks like straw.

How stupid?
I mean how? Stupid!
I am bald...wouldn't mind some straw.

 

[s_wd6]

How stupid?
I mean how? Stupid!
I am bald...wouldn't mind some straw.

I'd rather be bald than have hair like his. Well not really. If I had hair like his I'd style it properly so it doesn't look like I've got horse feed on my head. Looks like he's cut his hair himself.

 

[Rockmelon]

Brad Close and Jye Amiss would form the sleepiest looking forward line in the AFL. Would lull defenders into a false sense of security before pouncing.

4D chess move

 

[Dockeroo]

I’m pretty sure Johnson will be a good player (brain fades not withstanding) but if I had choice I’m taking lohmann every day of the week
type of footballer you enjoy watching even as oppo fan
certainly helps his type player we need too

I don’t mind how MJ is developing at all, I think he will be a solid player in time for us.

But right now you’ll do well to find a footy fan in the entirety of Australia that would select Matthew Johnson ahead of Kai Lohmann in any hypothetical redraft of 2021.

You would use pick 9 on Lohmann if you knew he was this good, without a second thought if he were in the 2024 draft pool.

 

[Taylor]

I think Johnson was running like he had OP

 

[UYD 4 Life]

I only watched the 2nd half but I thought lohman actually lost quite a few crucial contests and made some poor decisions when it got hot plus missed quite an easy goal. Was a nice mark though and he's certainly dynamic.

 

[DragoDelph]

Stop picking on malfoy!

 

[wakojako]

This acct has too much time on their hands

 

[mike91]

I only watched the 2nd half but I thought lohman actually lost quite a few crucial contests and made some poor decisions when it got hot plus missed quite an easy goal. Was a nice mark though and he's certainly dynamic.

He was very, very good mate. Have loved the kid all season. Missed an easy goal and had a poor few moments late, but damn his first 3 quarters was exciting.

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[wakojako]

He was very, very good mate. Have loved the kid all season. Missed an easy goal and had a poor few moments late, but damn his first 3 quarters was exciting.

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Lohman is literally what Freddy should be doing. Instead, Freddy just cruises around in second gear and puts in a good game every once in a while. So frustrating because he has that potential.

 

[Cobbler]

Lohman is literally what Freddy should be doing. Instead, Freddy just cruises around in second gear and puts in a good game every once in a while. So frustrating because he has that potential.

One was pick 20. The other pick 61.

 

[s_wd6]

Lohman is literally what Freddy should be doing. Instead, Freddy just cruises around in second gear and puts in a good game every once in a while. So frustrating because he has that potential.

He was doing the same thing as Lohman at the same time point in his career. Even this season both going at 1.2 goals a game. It's pretty obvious that Freddy's role has changed with Schultz leaving and Walters turning to shit. It's not unexpected that he's gone backwards this year. Not much point getting frustrated over one poor season under those circumstances and comparing him to a guy who's output is pretty similar to what he has done before.

He needs to work on a lot of things this off season (tackling please) but a comparison to Lohman of all people is weird.

 

[FreoMatt]

Geelongs arguably got the best small forwards behind Hawks and that did them well...

Having smalls is great but useless when your mids kick it forward the way Geelong did after half time.

I think Brisbane probably have the best with Cameron, Rayner, lohman, Ah Chee, Bailey and an injured McCarthy and that did them even better


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[Sherriff Incorporated]

Take this with a grain of salt..

It would make sense.

 

[s_wd6]

I think Brisbane probably have the best with Cameron, Rayner, lohman, Ah Chee, Bailey and an injured McCarthy and that did them even better


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Small forwards? Cameron sure. Rayner and Bailey are part time midfielders. Lohmann is a Medium forward. Ah Chee was kicking less goals a game than Walters this year.

Is there answer then to have more midfielders play forward roles instead? Can't fit them in the middle then get them in the forward line?

 

[DocT]

I'd rather be bald than have hair like his. Well not really. If I had hair like his I'd style it properly so it doesn't look like I've got horse feed on my head. Looks like he's cut his hair himself.

I wouldn't mind hair looking like this:

 

[s_wd6]

I wouldn't mind hair looking like this:

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Bad taste. Too stringy. Too blonde. Same could be said about half the Geelong team too.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

Lohman is literally what Freddy should be doing. Instead, Freddy just cruises around in second gear and puts in a good game every once in a while. So frustrating because he has that potential.

I get where you're coming from and not having a go but I see Freddy as the player who's suffered the most from our inconsistent delivery into the forward line. In my opinion Freddy is often free and then gets the ball kicked over his head or he gets missed by 15 metres with a simple pass. No one benefits more if get more class in our team. I can see Freddy and Sturt being our most improved players next year if either have a good run in the preseason without injuries. Freddys had his last 2 preseasons ruined by injury and Sturt's never had an injury free preseason as far as I can recall.

 

[Wallsy78]

No still 16. Port finished higher than both these teams.

Interestingly, when the AFL released all the new rule changes for 2024 in February, one of the rule changes was:

• The in-finals ranking system has been codified to determine the 'home' club for Grand Finals in both the AFL and AFLW. The winners of the Qualifying Finals will be ranked first and second, the losers of the Qualifying Finals ranked third and fourth (the higher of the two clubs on the premiership ladder will be third) and the winners of the Elimination Finals ranked fifth and sixth (the higher of the two clubs on the premiership ladder will be fifth)

After finals week 1 under these rules:
1. Sydney
2. Geelong
3. Port
4. Giants
5. Brisbane
6. Hawks

Under these rules Port's pick would come before Geelong's due to them taking a higher ranking after FW1.

The question is whether this in-finals ranking system also relates to draft picks or not. Realistically it should if they are seeding the teams like this, but knowing the AFL they probably still use the old method

 

[s_wd6]

Interestingly, when the AFL released all the new rule changes for 2024 in February, one of the rule changes was:

• The in-finals ranking system has been codified to determine the 'home' club for Grand Finals in both the AFL and AFLW. The winners of the Qualifying Finals will be ranked first and second, the losers of the Qualifying Finals ranked third and fourth (the higher of the two clubs on the premiership ladder will be third) and the winners of the Elimination Finals ranked fifth and sixth (the higher of the two clubs on the premiership ladder will be fifth)

After finals week 1 under these rules:
1. Sydney
2. Geelong
3. Port
4. Giants
5. Brisbane
6. Hawks

Under these rules Port's pick would come before Geelong's due to them taking a higher ranking after FW1.

The question is whether this in-finals ranking system also relates to draft picks or not. Realistically it should if they are seeding the teams like this, but knowing the AFL they probably still use the old method

Makes sense, but no way they actually changed it.

 

[Sherriff Incorporated]

I do love the left field hilarity of someone like Brad Close being linked to Freo.

I also love the instant analysis of him by some.

Is a solid player.

Very solid player. I just checked he's contracted until 2025 so we'd have to make a decent offer to get him.

 

[Dockeroo]

One was pick 20. The other pick 61.

Hopefully it changes this year but we simply don’t spend enough draft capital in the front half of the ground.
Amiss - pick 8 in 2021
Sturt - pick 17 in 2018

The remainder of our forward line is made up of rookies and late round picks.
Some we have got lucky with like Treacy (who is a star and clearly should have been a first rounder in hindsight).

Others are solid role players but have significant flaws in aspects of their play and were late picks for a reason (Switta and Freddy, picks 73 and 61 respectively). I don’t think either of these two players make the Brisbane B22. They are classic regulars in a mid table side that get pushed out the door as the team improves and moves into a top 6, perennial contender phase.

There’s a former star we got for peanuts (pick 53) in Walters whose best days are most certainly behind him and needs replacing.

Our other forwards consist of guys like Banfield, Emmett, (none of whom were selected with early picks and are not good enough based on exposed form at AFL level), or Delean/simpson (still kids granted, but were just recruited with leftover picks after big trades if we are honest).

In the last decade Sturt and amiss are the only forwards we have taken in the draft inside pick 30.

In the same period, we took a heap of midfielders/wingers:

Weller - 14
Tucker - 27
Brayshaw - 2
Cerra - 5
Serong - 8
Young - 7
Henry - 9
Erasmus -10
Johnson - 21


In defence, we took
Logue - 8
Chapman - 14

I know we have traded in some expensive pieces like Jackson too but we need to focus on the forward half for 2 or 3 years now.
Bolton is a good start (albeit not a cheap one).

• The midfield is strong on the back of the above draft investment.
• we hit the jackpot with Treacy in probably the most expensive position on the ground to trade in a gun
• we need to now finish the job with more elite half forwards and small forwards.

This will allow us to score more heavily when on top and properly bury teams.

 

[DocT]

Bad taste. Too stringy. Too blonde. Same could be said about half the Geelong team too.

If I could take one speccy like that I'd happily sport a bleached Fritsch/Waterman combo.