-
AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
2024 McClelland Trophy
- Thread starter Teen Wolf
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Dec 11, 2010
- 10,659
- 12,328
- AFL Club
- Brisbane Lions
Hollow Knight
Imperfect vessel
- May 3, 2005
- 97,121
- 108,900
- AFL Club
- Brisbane Lions
- Other Teams
- Scuderia Ferrari, Dallas Cowboys
The million dollars would have been bloody nice, not gonna lie.
In its current iteration though, the "McClelland" title though is in danger of very quickly being seen as a consolation prize for teams that can't get it done when it counts.
In its current iteration though, the "McClelland" title though is in danger of very quickly being seen as a consolation prize for teams that can't get it done when it counts.
cryptor
Brownlow Medallist
- May 11, 2008
- 25,025
- 65,999
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
What do you mean? Even when it was only awarded based on the men's results this was always the main criticism against it when the McClelland Trophy winner failed to also claim the finals premiership.
- Nov 2, 2014
- 2,317
- 2,680
- AFL Club
- Brisbane Lions
The McClelland is a joke. The Hawks fans on here think the main reason I’m annoyed is because the Lions didn’t win it. Of course not. Ive been a Lions supporter since 2004 who was at the grand final this year. I have been through the whole journey and couldn’t be more stoked.
I’m annoyed about this award because AFL is a professional league handing out a prize for the most stupid criteria in sporting history.
- Nov 2, 2014
- 2,317
- 2,680
- AFL Club
- Brisbane Lions
Yes and it’s still a criticism. And it’s wrong. And it’s stupid. And it’s time to change it.
Our AFL game values four things:
1. Winning the premiership (85%)
2. Making Prelims (10%)
3. Winning finals (4%)
4. Winning the minor premiership (1%)
Getting out in straight sets is frowned upon in our game and never something to be celebrated.
The award is a joke.
Last edited:
Elixuh
See you on the 9th green at 9
Hawks fans dying on the hill of who cares about the million dollars is bizarre. Of course lions fans want the club to win that and think we deserve it.
The club we lost to had two easy draws and choked the finals.
The club we lost to had two easy draws and choked the finals.
- Aug 16, 2010
- 10,677
- 7,501
- AFL Club
- Brisbane Lions
The factor that the award is factored in over 2 systems makes the old rules obsolete under the rules it was a fairer system people understood the rules of the trophy finish on top in the AFLM.
The current system makes no sense it should be rewarded to the best team which is why Finals should count
- Dec 11, 2010
- 10,659
- 12,328
- AFL Club
- Brisbane Lions
Yeah combining the two comps is silly. Keep them separate and the Swans win the trophy which is fair considering their dominant (at least the first 2/3) season.
Will you Brisbanites please stop your whinging…it’s becoming childish and boring.
Just enjoy your men’s, and hopefully women’s, premierships.
Just enjoy your men’s, and hopefully women’s, premierships.
I'm sure Brisbane are crying over a cheese plater. Drinking their sorrows from (a possible) 2 shiny new 2024 cups.
Sixpence
Brownlow Medallist
You haven't read much of this thread have you?
cryptor
Brownlow Medallist
- May 11, 2008
- 25,025
- 65,999
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
It's painfully obvious the only reason you're in here sooking it up is precisely because the Lions didn't win it when you think they should have.
Totally agree premierships and winning finals are held in higher esteem than home & away records. But you've pulled those percentages out of your arse. There's plenty of value placed on clubs performing well in the H&A - the consistency and endurance across 23 games rather than just being fortunate to hit some good form in September.
The majority of individual player honours are also decided purely based on the performances during the H&A. I don't see you mounting a case for the Brownlow, All-Australian, MVPs, etc. to include finals. I suspect it's because there isn't a million dollars on the line for your club.
cryptor
Brownlow Medallist
- May 11, 2008
- 25,025
- 65,999
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
I'd be happy to see it changed so there's a separate trophy for each of the men and women's comps. While the current setup is meant to recognise a combined club effort across two competitions I do think because half the prize money goes directly to the players that it should actually go to the best performed club in each comp.
Unfortunately for you, Brisbane still wouldn't win it. Even if you included finals. Sydney won 19 games to your 18 (and that was from one less final for the Swans) in the men's. And in the women's as long as North win their PF they'll have a better record than Brisbane too.
- Aug 16, 2010
- 10,677
- 7,501
- AFL Club
- Brisbane Lions
IT'S not about the Lions I think the system is flawed I don't think I once said the Lions should win it
- Nov 10, 2022
- 12,235
- 9,942
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
Most know that Brisbanes AFLW draw was easier
Elixuh
See you on the 9th green at 9
You played one top 4 team and they doubled your score and then you went out in straight sets.
cryptor
Brownlow Medallist
- May 11, 2008
- 25,025
- 65,999
- AFL Club
- Hawthorn
Sure, but I just looked up the 2023 version of this thread and don't see you or any of these other Brisbane posters mounting these arguments against Melbourne having won it despite not winning the flag in either comp.
It's very obvious that you're all only chiming in this year to say it's a flawed system because whether you choose to admit it, you think your club should have won it.
And before you think you've got a gotcha to flip it on me... I didn't post in the 2023 thread either. Because I honestly don't give a shit about this trophy. I am proud of the Hawthorn AFL and AFLW teams seasons despite the disappointing finals exits. Premierships are all that matter to us. But I'm happy the current rules have fallen in our favour and my club and its players have made bank. I'm also happy to admit the system is flawed, as I have multiple times in this thread. Sydney and North Melbourne should feel hard done by as minor premiers. Brisbane should have performed better in the H&A if they wanted to make a claim.
There was similar commentary regarding this on our board last year too given we had the women's team win the flag and the men come runner up.
Like you said though, would much rather have Brisbane's results this year than Hawthorn's.
Elixuh
See you on the 9th green at 9
Brisbane fans were annoyed about it last year. I know this might be shocking, but its almost as if more people have cottoned onto how farcical it is after it happens two years running. You're reading your own press if you think its because of Hawthorn. Petty squabbles between teams is a VFL mindset.
Similar threads
- Sticky
- Poll
