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Do we know what length of contracts (6 or 18 months) some of the players are asking for and would this influence who we decide to take.

Unfortunately almost everyone we are looking at has gone with the 18 month contract.

If we manage to get Payne and Howes, both are after 18, that will add some pressure at the end of the year.

An 18 and a 6 may be better but ..... do you pass on potential of say a Howes, perhaps we pass altogether.
 
Now that we have a few years that we can use to assess the Mid Season Draft, I think it's probably fair to think of the value of these picks as equivalent to later Rookie Draft picks.

Last year saw 19 players selected in the Rookie Draft, and after the pool is further diluted with SSP signings, I'm not sure that the value of another 6 months of information does a ton to improve the quality of our first selection tonight compared to if we had we used Pick 20 in the Rookie Draft last year.

The dream is that an Isaac Smith type announces himself out of nowhere, but the Mid Season draft has highlighted how rare that actually is.

Payne from reports sounds like he may have been taken last year had another 5-10 players been drafted last November. His performances have improved this year, but you'd expect that with him playing against kids a year younger. Maybe you could argue that we've discovered some additional positional versatility that increases his value, but otherwise I don't see a ton of reason for his stock to have risen. It feels like a case where a kid who was next in line in November is still at the front of the queue in May.

This thinking also explains why clubs are hesitant to use both picks. A lot of players have nominated 18 month contracts, so do we think we'll get a better prospect at pick 15 tonight or pick 19 come the Rookie Draft in November?
 

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Now that we have a few years that we can use to assess the Mid Season Draft, I think it's probably fair to think of the value of these picks as equivalent to later Rookie Draft picks.

Last year saw 19 players selected in the Rookie Draft, and after the pool is further diluted with SSP signings, I'm not sure that the value of another 6 months of information does a ton to improve the quality of our first selection tonight compared to if we had we used Pick 20 in the Rookie Draft last year.

The dream is that an Isaac Smith type announces himself out of nowhere, but the Mid Season draft has highlighted how rare that actually is.

Payne from reports sounds like he may have been taken last year had another 5-10 players been drafted last November. His performances have improved this year, but you'd expect that with him playing against kids a year younger. Maybe you could argue that we've discovered some additional positional versatility that increases his value, but otherwise I don't see a ton of reason for his stock to have risen. It feels like a case where a kid who was next in line in November is still at the front of the queue in May.

This thinking also explains why clubs are hesitant to use both picks. A lot of players have nominated 18 month contracts, so do we think we'll get a better prospect at pick 15 tonight or pick 19 come the Rookie Draft in November?

Taking the second pick especially with an 18 month contract basically means that you have already ruled a line through two players on your list, or in our case, it could be four players if we don't get to retain the extra two spots that we were granted as a concession. If you are taking a long shot gamble on someone ranked so far back in the queue by all other clubs, you'd want to have reason to think they can contribute and not be another revolving door MSD pick like Charlie Ham.
 
Caleb Ernst surely available at our second pick as that KPF

McLean is a waste of a pick would even rather Tyler brown, declase, hately, Bianco, or collier Dawkins in that case as mature bodies
 
Taking the second pick especially with an 18 month contract basically means that you have already ruled a line through two players on your list, or in our case, it could be four players if we don't get to retain the extra two spots that we were granted as a concession. If you are taking a long shot gamble on someone ranked so far back in the queue by all other clubs, you'd want to have reason to think they can contribute and not be another revolving door MSD pick like Charlie Ham.
I've put a line through at least 9 players
 
hey what does it mean "Payne nominated for an 18-month contract rather than six months."

do they get to nominate how long their first contract is (if they're taken in MSD) or was it in reference to something else?
 
hey what does it mean "Payne nominated for an 18-month contract rather than six months."

do they get to nominate how long their first contract is (if they're taken in MSD) or was it in reference to something else?
The player nominates before the draft if they want a 6 month or 18 month contract.
Clubs that select then have to give that contract.
It's how the hawks scared away others from picking newcombe when he was drafted
 

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