Preview 2024 National Draft Preview Thread

[The Nostradamus]

alright now for pick swaps

2 for 6 and 10 otherwise hold has to be the stance

even if it means just taking pick 2 and 62 plus upgrade a rookie

not keen on using futures to get back in, keep them for next years draft or trade capital

 

[chubbspeterson]

alright now for pick swaps

2 for 6 and 10 otherwise hold has to be the stance

even if it means just taking pick 2 and 62 plus upgrade a rookie

not keen on using futures to get back in, keep them for next years draft or trade capital

I think we could at least move a F3. Will basically be worthless next year.

 

[Forever North]

Keep 2. Cannot have enough guns. I want everyone in the footy world to be spinning their heads in 5 years when Sheezel gets parked in the forward pocket cause he can’t break into the starting midfield….

 

[verypoorboy]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but strongly think that if Tigers don’t offer pick 6. We’re far better off keeping pick 2 and drafting best available (if that be FOS or Lalor, so be it). Rather that than accepting their subpar offer of 10 + 11/13/18 or whatever it will be.

That may seem counterintuitive since we have nice midfield already. But history in hindsight has always far favored the careers of top end talent of a top 3/4 pick in the draft then the combined, sum of teen picks. It’s a landslide outcome and not even close. If anyone doubts this, look at history of the last 20 years of drafts and show me evidence that suggests otherwise.

I know we favor Tauru and/or reaching for a key position player at pick #2. But if Tigers don’t play ball and offer us top end pick slide down to 6, it’s far better to take our chances on Lalor/Fos with pick 2 than taking their lowball offer and drafting a couple of speculative kids in the teens (or alternatively reaching for Tauru or another KP player at #2) when those guys are almost unanimously ranked outside the top group of players in this draft.

What do you guys think? Anyone agree with that thought?

 

[joegreen]

alright now for pick swaps

2 for 6 and 10 otherwise hold has to be the stance

even if it means just taking pick 2 and 62 plus upgrade a rookie

not keen on using futures to get back in, keep them for next years draft or trade capital

Even as we would be able to trade 2 years of futures? Use 2025 futures to trade back in this year and 2026 futures for trades?

I'd like more picks now, the more talent we have at the same age the better.

 

[ferball]

Especially if you do a little research!!

2 V 6 & 10

McKercher V Sanders & Caddy
Sheezel V Humphrey & Phillipou
Darcy V Rachele & Erasmus
Thiltorpe V DGB & Z Reid
Anderson V McAsey & Green
Lukosius V King & Blakey
Brayshaw V Stephenson & O'Brien
Taranto V SPS & Bowes
Schache V Francis & McKay
Petracca V Marchbank & Cockatoo
Kelly V Scharenberg & Freeman

8 for 2
2 for 6 & 10
1 draw

Which one is the draw?

 

[the big lebowski]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but strongly think that if Tigers don’t offer pick 6. We’re far better off keeping pick 2 and drafting best available (if that be FOS or Lalor, so be it). Rather that than accepting their subpar offer of 10 + 11/13/18 or whatever it will be.

That may seem counterintuitive since we have nice midfield already. But history in hindsight has always far favored the careers of top end talent of a top 3/4 pick in the draft then the combined, sum of teen picks. It’s a landslide outcome and not even close. If anyone doubts this, look at history of the last 20 years of drafts and show me evidence that suggests otherwise.

I know we favor Tauru and/or reaching for a key position player at pick #2. But if Tigers don’t play ball and offer us top end pick slide down to 6, it’s far better to take our chances on Lalor/Fos with pick 2 than taking their lowball offer and drafting a couple of speculative kids in the teens (or alternatively reaching for Tauru or another KP player at #2) when those guys are almost unanimously ranked outside the top group of players in this draft.

What do you guys think? Anyone agree with that thought?

I agree.

There is a clear top 5

Langford or Lalor would be fantastic additions to our team. Langford in particular, and if rumours are to be believed thursfield agrees.

Future 1 could get 7,9 or 10 from saints, dees or tigers

Or it could get 16,18 and 21 from gws.

That’s where we should be looking imo

 

[The Nostradamus]

still FOS/Smillie/Lalor for mine if we hold 2

 

[wolvesRoos]

6 and 11 is palpable, 18 is too far away. Be funny if Tigers do it too, with the Blues moving up to 3 to target FOS.

Future first for 6?

 

[The5YearPlan]

Pick 2 for the Saints 7 & 8 could be doable.. would give us a crack at Smillie & Tauru.

 

[tales129]

Melbourne want Tauru

 

[Wild Bill]

Which one is the draw?

Anderson v Green

 

[verypoorboy]

Melbourne want Tauru

The skeptic in me thinks they could be playing mind games.
They’re pretty strong in the backline for talls (May, Lever, Tomlinson etc.). What’s the one area that they are a bit light on? Probably the midfield. Think about it…

Brayshaw retired. Trac and Oliver don’t want to be there. They lost James Jordon to Sydney. Sparrow is not great.
Within the span of a couple of years, the once best midfield in the AFL has been decimated and they were so desperate they had to move Rivers there this season and trial Salem, just to have someone attend the bounces at times.
This draft has a pretty clear top 4 midfielders: Smith, Draper, Lalor and FOS. And which of the 4 teams in front of them is most likely to be swayed away from picking one of those top mids. It’s us.

…If I were the Dees, it’s be absolutely in my interests to play a bit of mind games, and I would certainly be putting out a rumour to get us to reach on Tauru, so that one of those elite 4 slips right into their hands at #5.

 

[perplexed]

Best available at 2

That’s not Tarau

So you'd use our only good pick this year to take another mid?

We just traded in an old key forward to play a stand in role while a kid we don't have yet develops.
We haven't spent any currency on small forwards, but have already taken six mids in the top 5. We don't need any more.

 

[RossHenshaw]

We will be splitting pick 2 for sure now …
Possibly a deal with the Tigs …

 

[perplexed]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but strongly think that if Tigers don’t offer pick 6. We’re far better off keeping pick 2 and drafting best available (if that be FOS or Lalor, so be it). Rather that than accepting their subpar offer of 10 + 11/13/18 or whatever it will be.

That may seem counterintuitive since we have nice midfield already. But history in hindsight has always far favored the careers of top end talent of a top 3/4 pick in the draft then the combined, sum of teen picks. It’s a landslide outcome and not even close. If anyone doubts this, look at history of the last 20 years of drafts and show me evidence that suggests otherwise.

I know we favor Tauru and/or reaching for a key position player at pick #2. But if Tigers don’t play ball and offer us top end pick slide down to 6, it’s far better to take our chances on Lalor/Fos with pick 2 than taking their lowball offer and drafting a couple of speculative kids in the teens (or alternatively reaching for Tauru or another KP player at #2) when those guys are almost unanimously ranked outside the top group of players in this draft.

What do you guys think? Anyone agree with that thought?

List management isn't about collecting the best players, it is about building a list capable of executing a game plan and winning games. Our list is ridiculously imbalanced in favour of high priced mids. Unless they are a freak like Harley, we shouldn't be taking mids with anything other than late or rookie picks for a couple of years.

 

[LB2Snake]

Maybe an unpopular opinion, but strongly think that if Tigers don’t offer pick 6. We’re far better off keeping pick 2 and drafting best available (if that be FOS or Lalor, so be it). Rather that than accepting their subpar offer of 10 + 11/13/18 or whatever it will be.

That may seem counterintuitive since we have nice midfield already. But history in hindsight has always far favored the careers of top end talent of a top 3/4 pick in the draft then the combined, sum of teen picks. It’s a landslide outcome and not even close. If anyone doubts this, look at history of the last 20 years of drafts and show me evidence that suggests otherwise.

I know we favor Tauru and/or reaching for a key position player at pick #2. But if Tigers don’t play ball and offer us top end pick slide down to 6, it’s far better to take our chances on Lalor/Fos with pick 2 than taking their lowball offer and drafting a couple of speculative kids in the teens (or alternatively reaching for Tauru or another KP player at #2) when those guys are almost unanimously ranked outside the top group of players in this draft.

What do you guys think? Anyone agree with that thought?

As much as I want Tauru, your logic is very sound. This is Richmond’s only chance to pair the 2 players they want together. We give them an opportunity to do this, in a year they actually have the collateral to do so. 6+10 is not outrageous, even 6+11. I really think anything beyond that is stretching our own limitations. Sure we can swap f2 etc, or we can bring f1 into the deal, but that’ll require another pick around 10/11.
They’ve got options, but so do we.
I still think Melbourne will come for 2 as well, although they’ll deny it and/or suggest they are taking Tauru. I don’t believe them. Dees won’t do 5+9, they are much sneakier than that.

 

[NMFC TID]

alright now for pick swaps

2 for 6 and 10 otherwise hold has to be the stance

even if it means just taking pick 2 and 62 plus upgrade a rookie

not keen on using futures to get back in, keep them for next years draft or trade capital

62 will come in a fair way after F/S and academy hey?

 

[NMFC TID]

We will be splitting pick 2 for sure now …
Possibly a deal with the Tigs …

Or bringing in F1. By next year we will be able to trade two drafts ahead if we want to get back into first round. By then we should be hopefully up and about and attracting free agents

 

[Ura]

Especially if you do a little research!!

2 V 6 & 10

McKercher V Sanders & Caddy
Sheezel V Humphrey & Phillipou
Darcy V Rachele & Erasmus
Thiltorpe V DGB & Z Reid
Anderson V McAsey & Green
Lukosius V King & Blakey
Brayshaw V Stephenson & O'Brien
Taranto V SPS & Bowes
Schache V Francis & McKay
Petracca V Marchbank & Cockatoo
Kelly V Scharenberg & Freeman

8 for 2
2 for 6 & 10
1 draw

I don’t mind logic but very different draft. I think also 6 and 11 just as likely.

Would probe for us be Langford or Fos vs Tarau and Armstrong or Travaglia

 

[Lomas]

Or bringing in F1. By next year we will be able to trade two drafts ahead if we want to get back into first round. By then we should be hopefully up and about and attracting free agents

It’s going to be chaos next year with multi year pick trading and TAS on the horizon. Good times.

 

[Psicosis]

Well the issue now is that clubs know we can’t go just go to the draft with 2 and 62.

 

[Lomas]

Well the issue now is that clubs know we can’t go just go to the draft with 2 and 62.

So they will be falling over themselves to deal with us, and competition is a good thing for us.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Well the issue now is that clubs know we can’t go just go to the draft with 2 and 62.

More specifically, Richmond knows.

 

[Lomas]

More specifically, Richmond knows.

And others know Richmond want two bites at the cherry. They can’t afford for their haul to be a bust after the spruiking. Which it could be with such an ‘even’ draft.