Review 2024 National Draft Thread Part Deux - Draft Picks: 2 (FOS), 27(MWHITLOCK), 62 (R4),76 (R5)

[The Talent Scout]

Love going all in. But Whitlock isn't helping us up the ladder next year. If it fails and senior staff are axed, the new people are crippled by this.

From what I saw this year after the bye and yes our last two games we were done, we are going to improve next year, as for the staff, nobody's going to get axed, we got all new staff in our club, they need time to do what it is they do, the same with the coaches, now we've brought in one of the best young midfielders and a highly talented key back/key forward, we know what we are doing, we got the players we were after, we are not on the Titanic, wish people would stop jumping ship, we are on a cruise liner heading to our destination, everything is perfectly fine. Be very excited for these two young boys and whoever we get Thursday night.

 

[nicko74]

Poor little Norfie darlings melting like crazy

Maybe little beggaroos will get their pet AFL diversity selection in Laura Kane to give them more free draft picks to butcher.

What a pathetic pos club that travesty is, about 3,000 supporters and selling games to WA.

Shittest, most irrelevant club in the AFL.with a racist, homophobic coach.

Farce of a club. Haven't noticed any of their rancid clowns over here tonight.

Can you believe some of these StK supporters

 

[iloveireland]

Some on this board seem to be making the point that future pics don’t matter as we need to win now, but somehow a KPP who needs several years is now, when a potential generational talent in the first round next year is not “now” enough?

I also am shocked people are surprised most expect North to come bottom 5 next year when we have been awful for ages. We all hope it doesn’t happen but you have to value our F1 based on the likely outcome, which is we finish bottom 5 and the pick is 1-5 and in return we’ve gotten 2 picks in the 20s.

Finally, you can hate the trade and still wish the boy the best, as I do. Although I do worry this trade will be hanging around his head forever.

 

[Ichiro #51]

Ok goodnight mate, sleep well.

All things considered, I don’t think I’ll sleep that well…

 

[Wild Bill]

You would get very good odds that either one of Richmond or the new Tassie team that’s 3 years away from playing its first game, could play a final before we do.
Based on nothing more than our recent form.
Our last finals victory was 10 years ago.

Clubs who are balls deep competing for flags trade out their future 1st round draft picks, when they are all in for the now.
Where the **** are we?

This is just another high risk move with a low percentage chance of it being successful that places unnecessary short term and immediate pressure on club and player.


It was totally unnecessary, just like the last 2 future 1st and 2nd we traded out.

The clubs still going through a cultural reset that it’s working through this off season, so who are you trying to kid here? Until the club proves that mediocrity is behind them, you simply cannot fully trust North with these types of calls.
Wake up

I’ll take the Roos over the Tigers. They just had 3 of their best 5 players walk out as well as Dusty.

Some on this board seem to be making the point that future pics don’t matter as we need to win now, but somehow a KPP who needs several years is now, when a potential generational talent in the first round next year is not “now” enough?

I also am shocked people are surprised most expect North to come bottom 5 next year when we have been awful for ages. We all hope it doesn’t happen but you have to value our F1 based on the likely outcome, which is we finish bottom 5 and the pick is 1-5 and in return we’ve gotten 2 picks in the 20s.

Finally, you can hate the trade and still wish the boy the best, as I do. Although I do worry this trade will be hanging around his head forever.

You can hate the trade if you have access to a Time Machine. It not just how good Whitlock is - we also have the 1st pick in the 2nd round next year. 1 or both could be better than what the Tigers take.

Whitlock was in the same range as Faull - who went at 14.

 

[The Talent Scout]

Poor little Norfie darlings melting like crazy

Maybe little beggaroos will get their pet AFL diversity selection in Laura Kane to give them more free draft picks to butcher.

What a pathetic pos club that travesty is, about 3,000 supporters and selling games to WA.

Shittest, most irrelevant club in the AFL.with a racist, homophobic coach.

Farce of a club. Haven't noticed any of their rancid clowns over here tonight.

Can you believe some of these StK supporters

Lets forget about opposition supporters like this and do the best strategy known to man, win games next year and make these type of supporters very nervous about the future, of what we are going to become.

 

[Shermanator]

All things considered, I don’t think I’ll sleep that well…

At the end of the day it's probably a swap of Pick 7ish for pick 19 and Whitlock.

The way I look at it, we're all passionate and we all want the best for the club. We'll agree to disagree on this one, but I'm sure there will be plenty in the future we'll agree on

 

[iloveireland]

Some on this board seem to be making the point that future pics don’t matter as we need to win now, but somehow a KPP who needs several years is now, when a potential generational talent in the first round next year is not “now” enough?

I also am shocked people are surprised most expect North to come bottom 5 next year when we have been awful for ages. We all hope it doesn’t happen but you have to value our F1 based on the likely outcome, which is we finish bottom 5 and the pick is 1-5 and in return we’ve gotten 2 picks in the 20s.





Finally, you can hate the trade and still wish the boy the best, as I do. Although I do worry this trade will be hanging around his head forever.

I also should have said. People who say we don’t know if it’s a bad trade without a Time Machine or without seeing him develop first. No, you judge a trade and draft choice based on the information you have at the time. Otherwise we could trade our F1 for pick 150 because the player at 150 could in theory end up better than a top 5 pick.

If someone buys their first home, and an asteroid destroys it a month later, I don’t blame the person who purchased the home and say, oh in hindsight this was a bad call, bad deal from you there.

 

[BrownPaperBag]

 

[Shermanator]

I also should have said. People who say we don’t know if it’s a bad trade without a Time Machine or without seeing him develop first. No, you judge a trade and draft choice based on the information you have at the time. Otherwise we could trade our F1 for pick 150 because the player at 150 could in theory end up better than a top 5 pick.

If someone buys their first home, and an asteroid destroys it a month later, I don’t blame the person who purchased the home and say, oh in hindsight this was a bad call, bad deal from you there.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Adding to what you've said above, the choice of Matt Whitlock and the suggestions that we read out the wrong name - there is nothing more obvious here than this being a Clarko call, preferring the versatility over the single position player.

My thoughts on the trade aside, I thought he was the better Whitlock earlier on in the year. Got moved down back so perhaps couldn't really show what he could do compared to Jack. I reckon he's a better ball user was first impression.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Melbourne got pick 9 for their future 1st. What did we get? 27+ f25. Well played Brady and co. Bunch of complete imbeciles.

Why do people keep forgetting 28, 40, 46, 54, 65 as points for Kako bid part of this trade?
It was 9, F3 for 28, 40, 46, 54, 65 and F1. That's why they didn't want our F1 alone for pick 9.
We would've had to involve something out of 25/44/62 this year to satisfy the points part.
So if it's 44 and 62, then we have to split 25 for a 30's and 40's pick, then 40's pick goes for Parker & Konstanty and then potentially 30's pick for Daniel or draft if Dogs reject it. May have had 2, 9, 30's pick (if no Daniel)?, 62? and no F1.

It's fair to criticise the deal of our F1 for 27 and Tigers F2, it looks like not great value, but to think we could've got pick 9 with just our F1 alone is not true based on the needs to satisfy a trade with the Bombers.

 

[Rod Stroker]

We deserve all the shit that comes our way with that inept trade. Shameful

 

[Istanbul Roo]

Some on this board seem to be making the point that future pics don’t matter as we need to win now, but somehow a KPP who needs several years is now, when a potential generational talent in the first round next year is not “now” enough?

I also am shocked people are surprised most expect North to come bottom 5 next year when we have been awful for ages. We all hope it doesn’t happen but you have to value our F1 based on the likely outcome, which is we finish bottom 5 and the pick is 1-5 and in return we’ve gotten 2 picks in the 20s.

Finally, you can hate the trade and still wish the boy the best, as I do. Although I do worry this trade will be hanging around his head forever.

It's one pick in the early twenties and Whitlock.

 

[Istanbul Roo]

We deserve all the shit that comes our way with that inept trade. Shameful

This year Gold Coast gave up pick 6 for Daniel Rioli. So say next year's pick 6 (our first) is a Daniel Rioli equivalent, good player but nothing special. We decided to go for a tall key forward this year (instead).
It sounds ludicrous to compare, and it is. Probably best then to calm down and make less over the top condemnations.

 

[Istanbul Roo]

This year Gold Coast gave up pick 6 for Daniel Rioli. So say next year's pick 6 (our first) is a Daniel Rioli equivalent, good player but nothing special. We decided to go for a tall key forward this year (instead).
It sounds ludicrous to compare, and it is. Probably best then to calm down and make less over the top condemnations.

Edit: 6 and 23!

 

[Sillygit]

Some on this board seem to be making the point that future pics don’t matter as we need to win now, but somehow a KPP who needs several years is now, when a potential generational talent in the first round next year is not “now” enough?

I also am shocked people are surprised most expect North to come bottom 5 next year when we have been awful for ages. We all hope it doesn’t happen but you have to value our F1 based on the likely outcome, which is we finish bottom 5 and the pick is 1-5 and in return we’ve gotten 2 picks in the 20s.

Finally, you can hate the trade and still wish the boy the best, as I do. Although I do worry this trade will be hanging around his head forever.

He wont give a **** about the trade. Nor should he. He's playing AFL football. Literally living his dream.

In fact, none of the players in the squad will give a shit about us having a 1st rounder next year, nor would i expect them to.

 

[shiraz]

trade the 2 x future seconds for the brother. Skip the 25 draft all together. When you have made this much of a mess you might as well go all in

I know a conventional belief came to be that our biggest list weakness was tall forwards. I never agreed with that. What would you suggest to someone who believed our biggest list weakness was crumbling forwards? This is truly a list management disaster.

 

[Gasometer]

Just read the last 5 pages

My only question to most of you is who are you?

Lots of Debutant posters

Lots of Posters that don’t post much recently or rarely

Didn’t see many names appearing in the GD slog fest that was Rd 24 this year

Yet venture into the Draft thread for melts

Hope to see your thoughts in the Pre Season Draft thread in February, but nah, you won’t