NFL 2024 NFL - Week 18

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SUNDAY, JANUARY 5 @ 8:30 AM
Cleveland at Baltimore LIVE

SUNDAY, JANUARY 5 @ 12:00 PM
Cincinnati at Pittsburgh LIVE

MONDAY, JANUARY 6 @ 5:00 AM
Buffalo at New England
Carolina at Atlanta LIVE
Chicago at Green Bay
Houston at Tennessee
Jacksonville at Indianapolis
New Orleans at Tampa Bay LIVE
New York Giants at Philadelphia LIVE
Washington at Dallas

MONDAY, JANUARY 6 @ 8:25 AM
Kansas City at Denver LIVE
Los Angeles Chargers at Las Vegas
Miami at New York Jets
San Francisco at Arizona
Seattle at Los Angeles Rams LIVE

MONDAY, JANUARY 6 @ 12:20 PM
Minnesota at Detroit LIVE

AUSTRALIAN T.V. GAMES
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 8.25 AM ON 5/1: Cleveland at Baltimore
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 12.00 PM ON 5/1: Cincinnati at Pittsburgh
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 5.00 AM ON 6/1: New Orleans at Tampa Bay
LIVE ON ESPN2/KAYO AT 5.00 AM ON 6/1: New York Giants at Philadelphia
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 5.00 AM ON 6/1: Carolina at Atlanta
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 8.25 AM ON 6/1: Kansas City at Denver
LIVE ON 7MATE AT 8.25 AM ON 6/1: Seattle at Los Angeles Rams
LIVE ON ESPN/KAYO AT 12.20 PM ON 6/1: Minnesota at Detroit

LIVE ON watchESPN AT 5:00 AM on 6/1: NFL RedZone

All Games live on TAB app

NB: VIC, NSW, TAS times
less 30 mins SA
less 1 hour QLD
less 1.5 hours NT
less 3 hours WA

 

[AJ_2000]

There's no "fair" way to decide seeds and hosting duties. Hugely unbalanced schedules with double division games, then cross over matchups with other divisions, and others based on your placed finish in the division. Strength of Schedule ranges between

The current system is unfair, but the rules are clear. Win your division and you'll host. So you have lots of common opponents to workout who's the best from your own lot.

It seems more unfair this year with the NFC WC teams having records above 2 division winners, but on other years you have WC teams with 9&8 records.

The AFC would have one change with the Chargers and Texans swapping spots of you go on record.

CFP have their committee to work it out (and it's a joke).

 

[aussiedude]

Any losing divisional winners shouldn’t be hosting games

I disagree. Because then it opens the door for why do we need division or team A with 11 wins has a tougher schedule and more quality wins then team B with 12.

Or how many extra wins do you need to host a game over a division winner. Do the Chargers deserve to host the Texans because of the 1 extra win. What about 2 should Washington host the Bucs

Or would Washington host Green Bay as a 4v5 seeds based on wins, and Rams @ Eagles, Bucs @ Vikings

 

[AJ_2000]

Rams beat Minnesota on the road earlier in the year by brining pressure, and after the egg they laid tonight I'm sure they're going to dial it up again next Monday

 

[aussiedude]

There's no "fair" way to decide seeds and hosting duties. Hugely unbalanced schedules with double division games, then cross over matchups with other divisions, and others based on your placed finish in the division. Strength of Schedule ranges between

The current system is unfair, but the rules are clear. Win your division and you'll host. So you have lots of common opponents to workout who's the best from your own lot.

It seems more unfair this year with the NFC WC teams having records above 2 division winners, but on other years you have WC teams with 9&8 records.

The AFC would have one change with the Chargers and Texans swapping spots of you go on record.

CFP have their committee to work it out (and it's a joke).

Changing seeding to not have division winners host opens for debate and people to try and turn it into something like the CFP where brand names get boosted. So we might end up with 9ers, Packers, Eagles, Dallas in every season as brand names with 3 others at large spots.

 

[samFFC]

I overall like the rule. It puts paramount importance on division games.

Yup I agree. Just meant normally the arguments made don’t make sense, but this year they kinda do!

We see it often enough where the lower division opponents beat the leaders, rare to get a 6-0 division record. Much more likely to have a lesser divisional opponent beat you than another random bad team.

Steelers / Browns
Titans / Texans
Commanders / Philly
Steelers / Ravens early on
Etc

 

[aussiedude]

Rams beat Minnesota on the road earlier in the year by brining pressure, and after the egg they laid tonight I'm sure they're going to dial it up again next Monday

Wasn't a bad game of TNF. Ruined by a missed facemask on 4th down that soured the ending and possibly a comeback

 

[drd23]

 

[WAbulldog]

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

**** you Darnold you useless campaigner.

 

[drd23]

We probably need 2 or 3 'off-season' threads started tonight (Coaches and FO; Players / Pre-FA; Pre-Draft)

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I cant believe the Panthers had just one less win than the Niners this year. ****ing crazy the NFL. Throws up shit like this more than any other sport.

 

[AJ_2000]

Nothing beats tradition!

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

btw, I dont want to hear the injury excuse Niners fans, they said on the broadcast today that the Panthers have used the most players in the NFL this year.

 

[AJ_2000]

We probably need 2 or 3 'off-season' threads started tonight (Coaches and FO; Players / Pre-FA; Pre-Draft)

Even a thread for those marked as safe

 

[AJ_2000]

btw, I dont want to hear the injury excuse Niners fans, they said on the broadcast today that the Panthers have used the most players in the NFL this year.

You should have won one more game than us so you could draft behind us

 

[AJ_2000]

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He's 0/2 in week 18 games.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

You should have won one more game than us so you could draft behind us

I think picks 8 to ~ 15 are basically the same right at this moment when it comes to the draft.

 

[WAbulldog]

He's 0/2 in week 18 games.

 

[STFU Donnie]

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Surely he's the stormtrooper who banged his head on the door jamb?

 

[aussiedude]

Surely he's the stormtrooper who banged his head on the door jamb?

His accuracy today was worse then a storm trooper

 

[Brasher]

I’d think he won’t play till the SB and that’s only if they make it. Sort of game you’d take the gamble

Yeah can't see him playing if the Lions don't make the SB.

 

[hutchy31]

I don’t have a strong view either way on the division winners v overall record seeding discussion.

I’d probably lean towards rewarding record rather than division winner, purely because those teams who are getting WC slots in strong divisions are outperforming the winners of shitty divisions in record but also probably strength of schedule:

• In the NFC, Vikings and Packers have won more games than Tampa and LA (in the Vikings case they’ve won four more) despite having to play Detroit/each other four times. Tampa have played two of the bottom four teams in the conference twice each, and still only got to ten wins.
• The NFC is more egregious, but even in the AFC the Chargers won more games than Houston despite being in a division with two other playoff teams. Houston got to play two atrocious teams twice, with Indy their hardest double up.

We can say this all works out because it’s cyclical, but recent history shows that both South divisions are atrocious and don’t show many signs of picking up any time soon. I’d bet that next year both winners of those divisions will have worse records than 1-2 of the wild card teams - again.

But even with all of that considered, it doesn’t bother me that much as it’s difficult to think of a WC team that has been really dudded by this. Typically they’ll lose on merit at some point before the SB and one of the division winners proves to be the best team in the conference anyway.

If I was sitting here as a Vikings or GB fan I might have a stronger view though. They are at worst the third and fourth best teams in the conference and will likely need to win three away games to even get to the SB.

 

[pjcrows]

I don’t have a strong view either way on the division winners v overall record seeding discussion.

I’d probably lean towards rewarding record rather than division winner, purely because those teams who are getting WC slots in strong divisions are outperforming the winners of shitty divisions in record but also probably strength of schedule:

• In the NFC, Vikings and Packers have won more games than Tampa and LA (in the Vikings case they’ve won four more) despite having to play Detroit/each other four times. Tampa have played two of the bottom four teams in the conference twice each, and still only got to ten wins.
• The NFC is more egregious, but even in the AFC the Chargers won more games than Houston despite being in a division with two other playoff teams. Houston got to play two atrocious teams twice, with Indy their hardest double up.

We can say this all works out because it’s cyclical, but recent history shows that both South divisions are atrocious and don’t show many signs of picking up any time soon. I’d bet that next year both winners of those divisions will have worse records than 1-2 of the wild card teams - again.

But even with all of that considered, it doesn’t bother me that much as it’s difficult to think of a WC team that has been really dudded by this. Typically they’ll lose on merit at some point before the SB and one of the division winners proves to be the best team in the conference anyway.

If I was sitting here as a Vikings or GB fan I might have a stronger view though. They are at worst the third and fourth best teams in the conference and will likely need to win three away games to even get to the SB.

Good post, and there are reasonable arguments on both sides.

FWIW Green Bay went 1W 5L and Minnesota went 4W 2L in the NFC North. The Vikings can feel hard done by, if there was an argument for making it total wins and not division, but like I said earlier I don't think it should be changed.

 

[aussiedude]

Good post, and there are reasonable arguments on both sides.

FWIW Green Bay went 1W 5L and Minnesota went 4W 2L in the NFC North. The Vikings can feel hard done by, if there was an argument for making it total wins and not division, but like I said earlier I don't think it should be changed.

The Packers 6 losses combined were 24 points. Vikings loss today was 22.
Can't feel too hard done when they didn't show up for a tshirt and hat game with the 1 seed on the line

 

[Brasher]

btw, I dont want to hear the injury excuse Niners fans, they said on the broadcast today that the Panthers have used the most players in the NFL this year.

See how many games you would have won with Shanahan's situational game management, a kicker with the yips and a special teams unit that gets their own short bus to travel to games.