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Comical.

  • NRL claims it wans $12 million a year because Tasmania are paying AFL $12 million a year
  • NRL does not mention that the Tasmanian government is paying that amount due to clear tourism factors for travelling away fans and for social benefits of the main sport in the state.
  • NRL are just trying to claim that "it's for the grassroots and not the main team" (they also fail to mention that it's effectively the same thing, should the NRL desire to build up a grassroots infrastructure in WA as they likely would to develop talent and a fanbase for the new team, it's money they'd have to take away from the revenue generation of ticket sales of the team anyway, money going around in a circle)
  • WA rightly saying "we just can't just spend millions per year on a thing that the public doesn't really care about, because you ask us to" (and I wish other government bodies had that too).
  • WA still saying they'll put money into a training base and stadium base as obviously that directly contributes back to the quality of team and tourism that would generate revenue for the state for the investment into the team.
 
Comical.

  • NRL claims it wans $12 million a year because Tasmania are paying AFL $12 million a year
  • NRL does not mention that the Tasmanian government is paying that amount due to clear tourism factors for travelling away fans and for social benefits of the main sport in the state.
  • NRL are just trying to claim that "it's for the grassroots and not the main team" (they also fail to mention that it's effectively the same thing, should the NRL desire to build up a grassroots infrastructure in WA as they likely would to develop talent and a fanbase for the new team, it's money they'd have to take away from the revenue generation of ticket sales of the team anyway, money going around in a circle)
  • WA rightly saying "we just can't just spend millions per year on a thing that the public doesn't really care about, because you ask us to" (and I wish other government bodies had that too).

Quid pro quo - does that mean AFL deserves $600 million.

  • WA still saying they'll put money into a training base and stadium base as obviously that directly contributes back to the quality of team and tourism that would generate revenue for the state for the investment into the team.

The W.A. govenment built Perth Oval for the Force and the Glory with the Reds, NRL, FIFA, RA and concerts playing there.
So it's ready to re-use again.
 

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The A-league doing a good expansion team for once.

It's amazing what happens when you create a team with a fanbase starved of top-level soccer.

They've really done well and Auckland have been put together very well, starting with a good coach. Long season I know, but a great start.
 




HomeAwayTotal TVTV ReachBVODBVOD Reach
PNGPM XIII191,000613,00054,000132,000
KangaroosTonga705,0001,452,000189,000315,000
JillaroosPNG Orchids44,000129,000
Fiji BatiPNG260,000872,00081,000172,000
TongaFetu Samoa
Fiji BatiCook Islands Aitu183,000668,00058,000140,000
Fiji BulikulaCook Islands Moana
KiwisKangaroos546,0001,283,000
Kiwi FernsJillaroos176,000642,000
KiwisTonga210,000424,000
Fetu SamoaFiji Bulikula
 
Round 1 of the 2024-25 #ALW season was attended by 9,449 at an average of 1,575, using 24.5% of available capacity.

Round 1 last season was the "stadium round" immediately after the WWC and would be ridiculous to use as a comparison.

HomeAwayVenueAttendanceCapacityCap%
Western UnitedWellingtonIronbark Fields8075,00016.14%
Central CoastSydneyIndustree Group Stadium3,00020,05914.96%
CanberraBrisbaneMcKellar Park1,1803,00039.33%
AdelaideMelbourne VictoryServiceFM Stadium1,0228,00012.78%
Melbourne CityPerthctrl.cyber pitch5821,50038.80%
NewcastleWestern SydneyCessnock Sportsground2,8581,000285.80%
Total9,44938,55924.51%
Matches66
Average1,5756,42724.51%

Round 1 of the 2024-25 WNBL Season was attended by 5,894 at an average of 1,474 using 22.7% of available capacity.

HomeAwayVenueAttendanceCapacityCap%
GeelongFireGeelong Arena1,0062,00050.30%
SpiritLightningRed Energy arena6194,00015.48%
LynxFlyersBendat8122,00040.60%
FlamesUC CapsQudos Bank Arena3,45718,00019.21%
Total5,89426,00022.67%
Matches44
Average1,4746,50022.67%
 
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Sorry The_Wookie for stealing your work but what the heck happened to aleague womens crowds thought after the womens world cup it would atleast be close to aflw crowd levels and yet they only get 2 crowds over 2k


the buzz lasted the first round and returned to slightly higher than the previous norm, as predicted by almost everyone.
 
ound 7 of the 2024-25 NBL Season was attended by 57,153 at an average of 7,144, using 67.7% of the available capacity. The season to date has seen 318,819 attend at an average of 6,783. This is down 6.33% on the first 7 rounds of the 2023-24 season

HomeAwayVenueAttendanceCapacityCap%
UnitedKingsJCA6,73410,30065.38%
JackjumpersPhoenixSilverdome3,2554,00081.38%
WildcatsHawksRAC Arena10,42114,00074.44%
Breakers36ersSpark Arena5,5379,74056.85%
TaipansBulletsCCC4,4455,34583.16%
PhoenixWildcatsJCA8,36210,30081.18%
KIngsJackjumpersQudos Bank Arena9,12418,00050.69%
UnitedBreakersJCA9,27510,30090.05%
57,15381,98569.71%
88
7,14410,24869.71%
 
91,168 at the Melbourne Cup.

Highest crowd since 2016, but still falls short of the 100K+ crowds the event used to get through the 2000s to mid 2010s.

 

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Those Melbourne crowds are stinkers - especially the Melbourne city one on public holiday eve.
MCG had the ODI opposite the road, but not really and excuse.

Western United is clearly a poorly thought out team in pure sporting reasons. The extra cash from Fox combined with the fact that the sport was being used as a vehicle for other land development reasons by the owners is the only reason it even has existed as a team. I don't think crowds of this size are ever truly unsurprising in that context for people who had common sense foresight. They couldn't even build a proper fanbase over time with a nomadic introduction.
 

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