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Joffaboy said:
Hayes is running laps at a very brisk pace. Looks strong in the legs. I don't know the condition of the knee and his ability to pivot, but if that's OK, he will be in contact training soon.

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Hayes showed a lot until injury, but I have a feeling he won't be getting many more senior games and will probably be playing most of the season nat Sandy if match fit.
 
Had a very quick chat to Liam Henry's dad (family over from WA).
Said he is aiming for mid more than wing. Had all his Saints gear on, but is a Collingwood supporter, seems like a nice guy and family.

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Diehard Saint said:
For you maybe.

I’d like to agree, however we were coerced into it by my son’s prep teacher before we had a clue what we were actually choosing 🤣🤣🤣

No regrets though.. I think!
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My old man got selected for the Saints under 18 or 19’s because they lived in Caulfield which was in the Saints zone.
The family were traditionally Essendon supporters and his old man , my grandfather forbid him from playing for the Saints and wanted to sell up and move to an Essendon zone.
The old man rebelled and stuck strong to stay with his mates for which I am forever thankful.
 

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Diehard Saint said:
For you maybe.

I’d like to agree, however we were coerced into it by my son’s prep teacher before we had a clue what we were actually choosing 🤣🤣🤣

No regrets though.. I think!
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Funny, my prep and grade 1 teacher was a Collingwood supporter and I'd go to all the Saints games back then ('96, '97) and talk about it every Monday for show and tell. We were winning a lot across those two years and the sheer amount I'd talk about the Saints made her make the switch 😎

Knocked on our front door on the morning of the '97 GF and gave me a Stewie Loewe badge for good luck. I still see her around every now and then - as rusted on as they come 😎😎
 
Here's a snippet about how Lyon is across everything going on at training.
Match sim, one team in their red training tops with their numbers, the other team ingreen bibs.
Lyon standing talking to Bachelor near the dugouts. Watching intently, correcting players running patterns ect.
Suddenly turns to Bachelor and says, get those blokes on the far side running the boundary in yellow bibs. Was concerned they would be mistaken for players in the sim.
Sounds inconsequental but it shows that Lyon is switched on and is really RTB.


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Righto, this will be long, somewhat incoherent and jumbled, but these are things I saw today.

-Dow, Caminiti, Hayes doing laps. Wule the others warmed up Caminiti was pushed really hard in his running. Many of the boys were cheering him on too.

Kicking drill 20m apart running at target:
-As vocal as I've heard them. Henry, Windy, Steele, Pou all beautiful kicks as they ran at the marker. What stands out is how conditioned everyone looks. All in ripping shape.

Small mid clearance battle:
-Clark, Paton, Windy v Steele, Hill, Hotton.
-Steele's tackling looks back to it's best. Strong through the body and was not letting them out. Clark had no chance after being wrapped up.
-Windhager moving beautifully inside, and Hill's evasiveness is great.
-Paton was okay, but being soundly beaten in movement alone by Hill.

4v4 throw in stoppage work:
-Pou being very physical with Seb Ross at every new stoppage, lots of body work.
-Jones is a pest. Putting heaps of pressure on his man, and very mouthy. But he is lively.
-Henry was being utilised really well as a receiver and was using his legs. Hotton good here too.
-Windy was being instructed by Lenny through this drill and seemed to be almost doing a 'run with' role on Steele.
-After this drill finished, Steele pulled the whole crew together and chatted with them and coached them through what they could have done a bit better, heard mentions of their positioning and method. Good to see, as I don't often see him do that.

5v5 defence and attack drill:
-10x10 metre box they had to work the ball through the traffic both ways.
-Wilkie directing as he does.
-Jones has very quick feet in traffic - stops and props and sidesteps really well, and he's strong. I almost forget he's on our list sometimes because he's been so injury plagued, but if he's right he really adds something different.
-Collard stepping nicely and being used a lot in this drill, was good to see.
-Teams switched over and Wood, Bonner, Hastie, and Webster were working really well as a unit. Hastie with a nice intercept that was well received by the coaches.

5v5 half back simulation from sideline throw in:
-Looked like the focus was to get the ball moving and the switch across goals and out of d50 on the other side.
-McLennan hit a beautiful 45m switch.
-Hastie moves really nicely. As many have said he's still quite slight in the upper body but his use and movement are looking good. He was being directly encouraged by BJ many times in this drill to be more vocal and instructive. Positive to see that already they think he can be directive. Had a nice fend off on Webster.
-Overall the disposal so far was very good. Slightly blustery wind but some really nice kicking. Good to see.

Half field Greens v Reds:
-Adrian Cole is a big unit. Does not look out of place at all. Took a really nice mark over Heath then delivered i50 to Alison who dropped an absolute soda. Did take a nice lead up mark after that though.
-Henry using his wheels, out ran wood and linked up with Byrnes nicely both using their pace to combine. Henry had one really good inside 50, and one absolute worm burning stinker. Was being used a lot though which I liked.
-King in fluro cap but was leading and going for his marks. Dougs was on him and being physical but King was moving a lot which was good, trying to lose him. Sharman would then come over and force Dougs to try manage both of them. It let King off the leash a little as Dougs focus shifted to deal with Sharman. Ball was still being dumped on his head a bit though...
-Ross stopped the play and asked if anyone was actually going to lead at the kicker.
-Owens being used mostly fwd here, was a handful for Battle.
-Arie Schoonerdeleter was doing laps and really working hard. Sweating out last nights sesh.

Goal kicking between drills was actually quite good. Owens, Marshall, and Coops all drilling them. Sharman has such a nice and simple kicking action.

10v10 using the ground width ways with little makeshift goals at either end:
-Only about 40m wide so forcing the players to utilise a corridor.
-Wilkie dominating. Did miss a fairly simple handball out of defence but was comfortably winning every 1v1.
-Sincs the main outlet out of defence. Doesn't miss.
-Wood, Hill, Henry really being used a lot as the second kick. All moving and presenting constantly.
-Nas, Ronnie, Wilkie, Sinclair all standouts here. These guys make great decisions under pressure.
-Collard is so agile, but did fade a bit. Obviously needs to work on the tank more, but when he's on he's on.

Red v Green full match sim with AFL umps:
-8 min quarters after about 2 hours training at this point.
Amongst the red team were Steele, Wilkie, Henry, Wood, Marshall, Cordy, Membrey, Wilson, Windy, Battle, Hill, Clark, Owens, Sharman. Green had Ross, Byrnes, Bonner, Keller, Garcia, Alison, Nasiah, amongst others.
-Red had 2 inside 50's within about 1.5 mins.
-Owens set shot misses for a behind.
-Windy nice hands to Clark who bangs one through from about 45m. Under very little pressure from opposing team.
-Green team get to their attacking 50 once, but the way the defensive unit of Wilkie, Stocker, Battle and Webster worked the ball.. switched it twice and back into attack... was really, really nice to watch. Very clean use of it and they all knew what the other was doing.
-Pou, Jones, and Dougal all running laps. Caminiti still running.
-Heard RTB talking to another coach near the boundary about Garcia. Said he had a blankness and expressionlessness about him that really intrigued him. Said he was an interesting character. Not sure what this was in reference to exactly.
-Boris was commenting to RTB about how well they were transitioning the footy.
-RTB called out to Lance multiple times to commend him on his pace and attack. Really singling him out.
-Marshall taps down Steele's throat, Steele with 3 fakes and a spin to a running Sinclair through the middle, Sincs pings one through from 50.
-Clark in the middle to a, once again, streaming Sincs, who hits Steele on the tit just inside 50. Steele kicks over to Marshall for a set shot who absolutely shanks it haha doesn't make the distance and goes way wide.
-Again the transition from the Red team looks unreal. Battle, Hill, Webster all working beautifully.
-Stocker hits a ripping 40m kick inside 50 deep to a leading Membrey. Really nice ball use. Watching Stocker he was putting a lot of physical pressure on Garcia at d50 stoppages. Really making him work. Garcia is seriously pacy, and bursts off the mark.

-Bonner easily outmanoeuvres Hggins and delivers i50, Ro Marshall back into the hole to take a nice defensive pack mark.

Some players now swap teams to mix it up a bit and make it a little more equal.

-Owens chasing an errant ball to the boundary, out steps Bonner, delivers forward. Then runs on and ends up in the forward pack in the square. He outmuscles everyone to get a snap off at goal. Is a real handful. Just don't know how you match up well on him as he's bigger than the smalls, more agile than the bigs, and more powerful than most.

Ross made them do commando roles and planks in between the 3rd and 4th quarter after about 2.5 hours training, really pushing them. Tired lads out there but they looks in great shape.

That'll do me, and congrats if you made it this far. Jesus. What a waffle haha.

Cheers.
 
Mavefromdelburn said:
Righto, this will be long, somewhat incoherent and jumbled, but these are things I saw today.

-Dow, Caminiti, Hayes doing laps. Wule the others warmed up Caminiti was pushed really hard in his running. Many of the boys were cheering him on too.

Kicking drill 20m apart running at target:
-As vocal as I've heard them. Henry, Windy, Steele, Pou all beautiful kicks as they ran at the marker. What stands out is how conditioned everyone looks. All in ripping shape.

Small mid clearance battle:
-Clark, Paton, Windy v Steele, Hill, Hotton.
-Steele's tackling looks back to it's best. Strong through the body and was not letting them out. Clark had no chance after being wrapped up.
-Windhager moving beautifully inside, and Hill's evasiveness is great.
-Paton was okay, but being soundly beaten in movement alone by Hill.

4v4 throw in stoppage work:
-Pou being very physical with Seb Ross at every new stoppage, lots of body work.
-Jones is a pest. Putting heaps of pressure on his man, and very mouthy. But he is lively.
-Henry was being utilised really well as a receiver and was using his legs. Hotton good here too.
-Windy was being instructed by Lenny through this drill and seemed to be almost doing a 'run with' role on Steele.
-After this drill finished, Steele pulled the whole crew together and chatted with them and coached them through what they could have done a bit better, heard mentions of their positioning and method. Good to see, as I don't often see him do that.

5v5 defence and attack drill:
-10x10 metre box they had to work the ball through the traffic both ways.
-Wilkie directing as he does.
-Jones has very quick feet in traffic - stops and props and sidesteps really well, and he's strong. I almost forget he's on our list sometimes because he's been so injury plagued, but if he's right he really adds something different.
-Collard stepping nicely and being used a lot in this drill, was good to see.
-Teams switched over and Woof, Bonner, Hastie, and Webster were working really well as a unit. Hastie with a nice intercept that was well received by the coaches.

5v5 half back simulation from sideline throw in:
-Looked like the focus was to get the ball moving and the switch across goals and out of d50 on the other side.
-McLennan hit a beautiful 45m switch.
-Hastie moves really nicely. As many have said he's still quite slight in the upper body but his use and movement are looking good. He was being directly encouraged by BJ many times in this drill to be more vocal and instructive. Positive to see that already they think he can be directive. Had a nice fend off on Webster.
-Overall the disposal so far was very good. Slightly blustery wind but some really nice kicking. Good to see.

Half field Greens v Reds:
-Adrian Cole is a big unit. Does not look out of place at all. Took a really nice mark over Heath then delivered i50 to Alison who dropped an absolute Soda. Did take a nice lead up mark after that though.
-Henry using his wheels, out ran wood and linked up with Byrnes nicely both using their pace to combine. Henry had one really good inside 50, and one absolute worm burning stinker. Was being used a lot though which I liked.
-King in fluro cap but was leading and going for his marks. Dougs was on him and being physical but King was moving a lot which was good, trying to lose him. Sharman would then come over and force Dougs to try manage both of them. It let King off the leash a little as Dougs focus shifted to deal with Sharman. Ball was still being dumped on his head a bit though...
-Ross stopped the play and asked if anyone was actually going to lead at the kicker.
-Owens being used mostly fwd here, was a handful for Battle.
-Arie Schoonerdeleter was doing laps and really working hard. Sweating out last nights sesh.

Goal kicking between drills was actually quite good. Owens, Marshall, and Coops all drilling them. Sharman has such a nice and simple kicking action.

10v10 using the ground width ways with little makeshift goals at either end:
-Only about 40m wide so forcing the players to utilise a corridor.
-Wilkie dominating. Did miss a fairly simple handball out of defence but was comfortably winning every 1v1.
-Sincs the main outlet out of defence. Doesn't miss.
-Wood, Hill, Henry really being used a lot as the second kick. All moving and presenting constantly.
-Nas, Ronnie, Wilkie, Sinclair all standouts here. These guys make great decisions under pressure.
-Collard is so agile, but did fade a bit. Obviously needs to work on the tank more, but when he's on he's on.

Red v Green full match sim with AFL umps:
-8 min quarters after about 2 hours training at this point.
Amongst the red team were Steele, Wilkie, Henry, Wood, Marshall, Cordy, Membrey, Wilson, Windy, Battle, Hill, Clark, Owens, Sharman. Green had Ross, Byrnes, Bonner, Keller, Garcia, Alison, Nasiah, amongst others.
-Red had 2 inside 50's within about 1.5 mins.
-Owens set shot misses for a behind.
-Windy nice hands to Clark who bangs one through from about 45m. Under very little pressure from opposing team.
-Green team get to their attacking 50 once, but the way the defensive unit of Wilkie, Stocker, Battle and Webster worked the ball.. switched it twice and back into attack... was really, really nice to watch. very clean use of it and they all knew what the other was doing.
-Pou, Jones, and Dougal all running laps. Caminiti still running.
-Heard Ross talking to another coach near the boundary about Garcia. Said he had a blankness and expressionlessness about him that really intrigued him. Said he was an interesting character. Not sure what this was in reference to exactly.
-Boris was commenting to Ross about how well they were transitioning the footy.
-RTB called out to Lance multiple times to commend him on his pace and attack. Really singling him out.
-Marshall taps down Steele's throat, Steele with 3 fakes and a spin to a running Sinclair through the middle, Sincs pings one through from 50.
-Clark in the middle to a, once again, streaming Sincs, who hits Steele on the tit just inside 50. Steele kicks over to Marshall for a set shot who absolutely shanks it haha doesn't make the distance and goes way wide.
-Again the transition from the Red team looks unreal. battle, Hill, Webster all working beautifully.
-Stocker hits a ripping 40m kick inside 50 deep to a leading Membrey. Really nice ball use. Watching Stocker he was putting a lot pf physical pressure on Garcia at d50 stoppages. Really making him work. Garvia is seriously pacy, and bursts off the mark.

-Bonner easily outmanoeuvres Hggins and delivers i50, Ro Marshall back into the hole to take a nice defensive pack mark.

Some players now swap teams to mix it up a bit and make it a little more equal.

-Owens chasing an errant ball to the boundary, out steps Bonner, delivers forward. Then runs on and ends up in the forward pack in the square. He outmuscles everyone to get a snap off at goal. Is a real handful. Just don't know how you match up well on him as he's bigger than the smalls, more agile than the bigs, and more powerful than most.

Ross made them do commando roles and planks in between the 3rd and 4th quarter after about 2.5 hours training, really pushing them. Tired lads out there but they looks in great shape.

That'll do me, and congrats if you made it this far. Jesus. What a waffle haha.

Cheers.
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Great stuff thanks
 
Mavefromdelburn said:
Righto, this will be long, somewhat incoherent and jumbled, but these are things I saw today.

-Dow, Caminiti, Hayes doing laps. Wule the others warmed up Caminiti was pushed really hard in his running. Many of the boys were cheering him on too.

Kicking drill 20m apart running at target:
-As vocal as I've heard them. Henry, Windy, Steele, Pou all beautiful kicks as they ran at the marker. What stands out is how conditioned everyone looks. All in ripping shape.

Small mid clearance battle:
-Clark, Paton, Windy v Steele, Hill, Hotton.
-Steele's tackling looks back to it's best. Strong through the body and was not letting them out. Clark had no chance after being wrapped up.
-Windhager moving beautifully inside, and Hill's evasiveness is great.
-Paton was okay, but being soundly beaten in movement alone by Hill.

4v4 throw in stoppage work:
-Pou being very physical with Seb Ross at every new stoppage, lots of body work.
-Jones is a pest. Putting heaps of pressure on his man, and very mouthy. But he is lively.
-Henry was being utilised really well as a receiver and was using his legs. Hotton good here too.
-Windy was being instructed by Lenny through this drill and seemed to be almost doing a 'run with' role on Steele.
-After this drill finished, Steele pulled the whole crew together and chatted with them and coached them through what they could have done a bit better, heard mentions of their positioning and method. Good to see, as I don't often see him do that.

5v5 defence and attack drill:
-10x10 metre box they had to work the ball through the traffic both ways.
-Wilkie directing as he does.
-Jones has very quick feet in traffic - stops and props and sidesteps really well, and he's strong. I almost forget he's on our list sometimes because he's been so injury plagued, but if he's right he really adds something different.
-Collard stepping nicely and being used a lot in this drill, was good to see.
-Teams switched over and Wood, Bonner, Hastie, and Webster were working really well as a unit. Hastie with a nice intercept that was well received by the coaches.

5v5 half back simulation from sideline throw in:
-Looked like the focus was to get the ball moving and the switch across goals and out of d50 on the other side.
-McLennan hit a beautiful 45m switch.
-Hastie moves really nicely. As many have said he's still quite slight in the upper body but his use and movement are looking good. He was being directly encouraged by BJ many times in this drill to be more vocal and instructive. Positive to see that already they think he can be directive. Had a nice fend off on Webster.
-Overall the disposal so far was very good. Slightly blustery wind but some really nice kicking. Good to see.

Half field Greens v Reds:
-Adrian Cole is a big unit. Does not look out of place at all. Took a really nice mark over Heath then delivered i50 to Alison who dropped an absolute soda. Did take a nice lead up mark after that though.
-Henry using his wheels, out ran wood and linked up with Byrnes nicely both using their pace to combine. Henry had one really good inside 50, and one absolute worm burning stinker. Was being used a lot though which I liked.
-King in fluro cap but was leading and going for his marks. Dougs was on him and being physical but King was moving a lot which was good, trying to lose him. Sharman would then come over and force Dougs to try manage both of them. It let King off the leash a little as Dougs focus shifted to deal with Sharman. Ball was still being dumped on his head a bit though...
-Ross stopped the play and asked if anyone was actually going to lead at the kicker.
-Owens being used mostly fwd here, was a handful for Battle.
-Arie Schoonerdeleter was doing laps and really working hard. Sweating out last nights sesh.

Goal kicking between drills was actually quite good. Owens, Marshall, and Coops all drilling them. Sharman has such a nice and simple kicking action.

10v10 using the ground width ways with little makeshift goals at either end:
-Only about 40m wide so forcing the players to utilise a corridor.
-Wilkie dominating. Did miss a fairly simple handball out of defence but was comfortably winning every 1v1.
-Sincs the main outlet out of defence. Doesn't miss.
-Wood, Hill, Henry really being used a lot as the second kick. All moving and presenting constantly.
-Nas, Ronnie, Wilkie, Sinclair all standouts here. These guys make great decisions under pressure.
-Collard is so agile, but did fade a bit. Obviously needs to work on the tank more, but when he's on he's on.

Red v Green full match sim with AFL umps:
-8 min quarters after about 2 hours training at this point.
Amongst the red team were Steele, Wilkie, Henry, Wood, Marshall, Cordy, Membrey, Wilson, Windy, Battle, Hill, Clark, Owens, Sharman. Green had Ross, Byrnes, Bonner, Keller, Garcia, Alison, Nasiah, amongst others.
-Red had 2 inside 50's within about 1.5 mins.
-Owens set shot misses for a behind.
-Windy nice hands to Clark who bangs one through from about 45m. Under very little pressure from opposing team.
-Green team get to their attacking 50 once, but the way the defensive unit of Wilkie, Stocker, Battle and Webster worked the ball.. switched it twice and back into attack... was really, really nice to watch. Very clean use of it and they all knew what the other was doing.
-Pou, Jones, and Dougal all running laps. Caminiti still running.
-Heard RTB talking to another coach near the boundary about Garcia. Said he had a blankness and expressionlessness about him that really intrigued him. Said he was an interesting character. Not sure what this was in reference to exactly.
-Boris was commenting to RTB about how well they were transitioning the footy.
-RTB called out to Lance multiple times to commend him on his pace and attack. Really singling him out.
-Marshall taps down Steele's throat, Steele with 3 fakes and a spin to a running Sinclair through the middle, Sincs pings one through from 50.
-Clark in the middle to a, once again, streaming Sincs, who hits Steele on the tit just inside 50. Steele kicks over to Marshall for a set shot who absolutely shanks it haha doesn't make the distance and goes way wide.
-Again the transition from the Red team looks unreal. Battle, Hill, Webster all working beautifully.
-Stocker hits a ripping 40m kick inside 50 deep to a leading Membrey. Really nice ball use. Watching Stocker he was putting a lot of physical pressure on Garcia at d50 stoppages. Really making him work. Garcia is seriously pacy, and bursts off the mark.

-Bonner easily outmanoeuvres Hggins and delivers i50, Ro Marshall back into the hole to take a nice defensive pack mark.

Some players now swap teams to mix it up a bit and make it a little more equal.

-Owens chasing an errant ball to the boundary, out steps Bonner, delivers forward. Then runs on and ends up in the forward pack in the square. He outmuscles everyone to get a snap off at goal. Is a real handful. Just don't know how you match up well on him as he's bigger than the smalls, more agile than the bigs, and more powerful than most.

Ross made them do commando roles and planks in between the 3rd and 4th quarter after about 2.5 hours training, really pushing them. Tired lads out there but they looks in great shape.

That'll do me, and congrats if you made it this far. Jesus. What a waffle haha.

Cheers.
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Arie Schoonerdeleter


Highlight for me
 
Dard Ball Get said:
Need to get him off the beers and on the tequilas, for more couth.
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Good call there Dard.

To me.....Shoey looks like he could be an Expresso Martini type of guy.

Don't know why.....just a gut feeling.

LOL.
 
Mavefromdelburn said:
Windy was being instructed by Lenny through this drill and seemed to be almost doing a 'run with' role on Steele.
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This part put the biggest smile on my face, really seems like a no brainer for the side and Windys development.

Run with roles were a huge part of Steele's development and I think Windy should be aiming to emulate it.

Not only is it good for Windy to learn from the best, but we all know we don't currently have a midfield good enough to go head to head against the top sides, if we can have Windy shut down a Neale type, it now means Steele is going head to head against the second best midfielder and has a heap of positive downstream effects.

The halfback experiment did what it needed to gave Windy some touch and confidence, now it's time for the next step.
 
Saint Watto said:
Good call there Dard.

To me.....Shoey looks like he could be an Expresso Martini type of guy.

Don't know why.....just a gut feeling.

LOL.
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What makes it express? How quick he chugs em? Fair.

Great write up.

Get the feeling Dow isn't doing everything? Haven't seen his name mentioned a whole heap. Wonder what that means for R1.
 

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