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I'm not super confident Sicily is worth it anymore now that Blanck is out for the year.

I know Daicos has the early bye and the date with Maginness, but I think he's probably still more of a sure thing than a Sicily who has to spend more time worried about 1+1s.

They still have Frosty and DGB don't they. I think Hawthorn using Sicily as a lock down defender would be an absolute last resort. He's far too valuable in his 3rd tall/ interceptor role.
 

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Fair enough. Plenty of options to trade him to.

I think my bigger issue is Curnow. On one hand, I'm hoping for a few spike scores early in the season so it gives me a bit of time to work out who the forwards are that are worth having and making a little coin at the same time but then there's going to be that one bye round where i'm fielding a forward line full of rookies. Not sure it worth it? Alternatively I could hope for the same with Jeremy Cameron for 100k less and no bye issues.
 
If Edwards goes down you are the only one with him so you need to move him and you probably miss an option that week that everyone else gets.
Oh hell yeah. The only reason Edwards is there is because I'm stubbornly hoping to have a mid/def rookie linked to the midfield, and Curtin seems a bit too expensive to waste on the bench. There's probably only a 30% chance I end up taking him, he's a placeholder.

Pretty happy with the rest as it stands though.
 
What have I done? Natalie at F1! Macrae dead, Jacko playing second fiddle to Hodor, Flanders in the forward pocket, nothing else grabs me so its rookies and rehab in the forward line! At least I can build a defense and a midfield? I always used to start Natalie until he started breaking so I guess with all these trades now at least I know where they will be going...

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What have I done? Natalie at F1! Macrae dead, Jacko playing second fiddle to Hodor, Flanders in the forward pocket, nothing else grabs me so its rookies and rehab in the forward line! At least I can build a defense and a midfield? I always used to start Natalie until he started breaking so I guess with all these trades now at least I know where they will be going...

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Flanders played midfield in todays match sim.
 
Mate I'd assume you were crazy selecting Yeo, except you ranked so highly last year that I'm actually curious about your reasoning, in particular why you think he has the prerequisite durability this year.

At the other end of the scale... why Harmes over Fyfe or the other midprice alternatives?
I'll preface this whole post by saying that I've had one really good finish but I could have no idea what I am talking about. The below could all be a ramble, but hopefully someone gets something out of it.

The answer regarding Yeo probably goes pretty deeper into my team building philosophy that I thought pretty hard about over the off-season (my starting team last year wasn't amazing, my trades carried me). But essentially, I have a few key principles when building a team:
  1. The best scoring rookies and cheap mid-pricers will dictate my structure. I want to field the best 9/10 rookies/mid-pricers and then build my team around that;

  2. I want each of my "premium" picks to be value in comparison to the other options. Effectively, I want to get more scoring per dollar than the magic number is predicting. I don't think I will succeed with each pick, but that it is better than locking in the top line guys. For example, if you take Bont this year, or Laird/Oliver (as I did with Laird last year), then you are effectively saying, that 700k of your 10M is likely locked in and not going to be winning dollars;

  3. Given we have 40 trades this year, I am happy to take a little bit more risk on with my starting picks. This is especially true for anyone in that sub-500k range. These players are the perfect players to adjust up/down with to either a missed mid-pricer in the early stage of the game; and

  4. To look at this risk, I build my team in stages. Each stage is effectively a certainty I have in the pick. After each stage, I'll analyse each line and the values in there and try and work out how I can get the best value for the cash. I've tried to demonstrate this in the stages below.

Stage One - Locks

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These are the players that currently won't leave my side. For the rookies on the bench, I'd probably only really want to field Sharp out of the three of them.

Stage Two - Premiums & Current Rookies

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This is where I then pick the premiums I like the most at the moment for value at their price (also factoring in the rookies available still and the general strength of the line). I also then pick the bench rookies and, in uncertain lines, pick any rookies I'll field if named R1 (which in this case is just F. Macrae for now).

What this does is it shows me the lines in which I have slots and uncertainty around and allow me to make decisions on. With 1.1M million left for those three slots, I have a few different options I could choose. But, with these picks, factoring in the 40 trades above and the need for upside in order to have a high rank, I'm willing to take a bit more risk here.

The process has also allowed me to see the confidence I have in the other 27 picks - I currently like all of them a fair bit and have confidence most of them will be ok choices. With that confidence, I can take some upside swings and know I'm not unnecessarily absorbing risk (think of it like a share portfolio with 90% ETFs and 10% crypto/tiny market cap stocks shooting for the moon).

Previously, I had Heath Chapman, Jack Macrae and James Harmes. There, Chapman was the super high upside pick and Harmes was really a placeholder for a forward at that price to emerge.

Now, I am pretty high on Yeo as that upside player. The talk is that he is going to be fulltime midfield and I'm happy to take the swing that he lasts at least 5-6 weeks and can put some awesome scoring on the park and remove having to field a pretty sketchy D6. If he lasts until his bye, then its just amazing (assuming he is scoring well). If he gets injured early, then oh well, just parachute him down to mid-pricer or a Himmelberg off of his bye etc.

From there, we have about 650k and I'm happy to split that into another high upside pick with Fisher (although I am cooling on him) and Harmes as well. Harmes to me is just locking in someone who I think Bevo will like, can score in that HF role and if he gets CBAs, then amazing.

The other key thing though is these three slots are my most likely to change. If I start to like another pick more, then Yeo/Fisher/Harmes will be the first to move.
 

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I'll preface this whole post by saying that I've had one really good finish but I could have no idea what I am talking about. The below could all be a ramble, but hopefully someone gets something out of it.

The answer regarding Yeo probably goes pretty deeper into my team building philosophy that I thought pretty hard about over the off-season (my starting team last year wasn't amazing, my trades carried me). But essentially, I have a few key principles when building a team:
  1. The best scoring rookies and cheap mid-pricers will dictate my structure. I want to field the best 9/10 rookies/mid-pricers and then build my team around that;

  2. I want each of my "premium" picks to be value in comparison to the other options. Effectively, I want to get more scoring per dollar than the magic number is predicting. I don't think I will succeed with each pick, but that it is better than locking in the top line guys. For example, if you take Bont this year, or Laird/Oliver (as I did with Laird last year), then you are effectively saying, that 700k of your 10M is likely locked in and not going to be winning dollars;

  3. Given we have 40 trades this year, I am happy to take a little bit more risk on with my starting picks. This is especially true for anyone in that sub-500k range. These players are the perfect players to adjust up/down with to either a missed mid-pricer in the early stage of the game; and

  4. To look at this risk, I build my team in stages. Each stage is effectively a certainty I have in the pick. After each stage, I'll analyse each line and the values in there and try and work out how I can get the best value for the cash. I've tried to demonstrate this in the stages below.

Stage One - Locks

View attachment 1906090

These are the players that currently won't leave my side. For the rookies on the bench, I'd probably only really want to field Sharp out of the three of them.

Stage Two - Premiums & Current Rookies

View attachment 1906100


This is where I then pick the premiums I like the most at the moment for value at their price (also factoring in the rookies available still and the general strength of the line). I also then pick the bench rookies and, in uncertain lines, pick any rookies I'll field if named R1 (which in this case is just F. Macrae for now).

What this does is it shows me the lines in which I have slots and uncertainty around and allow me to make decisions on. With 1.1M million left for those three slots, I have a few different options I could choose. But, with these picks, factoring in the 40 trades above and the need for upside in order to have a high rank, I'm willing to take a bit more risk here.

The process has also allowed me to see the confidence I have in the other 27 picks - I currently like all of them a fair bit and have confidence most of them will be ok choices. With that confidence, I can take some upside swings and know I'm not unnecessarily absorbing risk (think of it like a share portfolio with 90% ETFs and 10% crypto/tiny market cap stocks shooting for the moon).

Previously, I had Heath Chapman, Jack Macrae and James Harmes. There, Chapman was the super high upside pick and Harmes was really a placeholder for a forward at that price to emerge.

Now, I am pretty high on Yeo as that upside player. The talk is that he is going to be fulltime midfield and I'm happy to take the swing that he lasts at least 5-6 weeks and can put some awesome scoring on the park and remove having to field a pretty sketchy D6. If he lasts until his bye, then its just amazing (assuming he is scoring well). If he gets injured early, then oh well, just parachute him down to mid-pricer or a Himmelberg off of his bye etc.

From there, we have about 650k and I'm happy to split that into another high upside pick with Fisher (although I am cooling on him) and Harmes as well. Harmes to me is just locking in someone who I think Bevo will like, can score in that HF role and if he gets CBAs, then amazing.

The other key thing though is these three slots are my most likely to change. If I start to like another pick more, then Yeo/Fisher/Harmes will be the first to move.
That's a really interesting way to do it mate.
Thanks for sharing
 
Not a team, but a captain question.
How many C/VC options are you looking to start?
Gawn and Grundy could be lower priced pretty regular C/VC options, so maybe starting a top price C option like a Bont or Daicos or whoever isn't as key??
 
Not a team, but a captain question.
How many C/VC options are you looking to start?
Gawn and Grundy could be lower priced pretty regular C/VC options, so maybe starting a top price C option like a Bont or Daicos or whoever isn't as key??

Ray Finkle perma C .
 
Not a team, but a captain question.
How many C/VC options are you looking to start?
Gawn and Grundy could be lower priced pretty regular C/VC options, so maybe starting a top price C option like a Bont or Daicos or whoever isn't as key??
I have 9 vc options.
Probably Bont English butters and daicos as C options
 
Not a team, but a captain question.
How many C/VC options are you looking to start?
Gawn and Grundy could be lower priced pretty regular C/VC options, so maybe starting a top price C option like a Bont or Daicos or whoever isn't as key??
I’ve got 7-9. I don’t really count Grundy and Stewart so 7.
 
I'll preface this whole post by saying that I've had one really good finish but I could have no idea what I am talking about. The below could all be a ramble, but hopefully someone gets something out of it.

The answer regarding Yeo probably goes pretty deeper into my team building philosophy that I thought pretty hard about over the off-season (my starting team last year wasn't amazing, my trades carried me). But essentially, I have a few key principles when building a team:
  1. The best scoring rookies and cheap mid-pricers will dictate my structure. I want to field the best 9/10 rookies/mid-pricers and then build my team around that;

  2. I want each of my "premium" picks to be value in comparison to the other options. Effectively, I want to get more scoring per dollar than the magic number is predicting. I don't think I will succeed with each pick, but that it is better than locking in the top line guys. For example, if you take Bont this year, or Laird/Oliver (as I did with Laird last year), then you are effectively saying, that 700k of your 10M is likely locked in and not going to be winning dollars;

  3. Given we have 40 trades this year, I am happy to take a little bit more risk on with my starting picks. This is especially true for anyone in that sub-500k range. These players are the perfect players to adjust up/down with to either a missed mid-pricer in the early stage of the game; and

  4. To look at this risk, I build my team in stages. Each stage is effectively a certainty I have in the pick. After each stage, I'll analyse each line and the values in there and try and work out how I can get the best value for the cash. I've tried to demonstrate this in the stages below.

Stage One - Locks

View attachment 1906090

These are the players that currently won't leave my side. For the rookies on the bench, I'd probably only really want to field Sharp out of the three of them.

Stage Two - Premiums & Current Rookies

View attachment 1906100


This is where I then pick the premiums I like the most at the moment for value at their price (also factoring in the rookies available still and the general strength of the line). I also then pick the bench rookies and, in uncertain lines, pick any rookies I'll field if named R1 (which in this case is just F. Macrae for now).

What this does is it shows me the lines in which I have slots and uncertainty around and allow me to make decisions on. With 1.1M million left for those three slots, I have a few different options I could choose. But, with these picks, factoring in the 40 trades above and the need for upside in order to have a high rank, I'm willing to take a bit more risk here.

The process has also allowed me to see the confidence I have in the other 27 picks - I currently like all of them a fair bit and have confidence most of them will be ok choices. With that confidence, I can take some upside swings and know I'm not unnecessarily absorbing risk (think of it like a share portfolio with 90% ETFs and 10% crypto/tiny market cap stocks shooting for the moon).

Previously, I had Heath Chapman, Jack Macrae and James Harmes. There, Chapman was the super high upside pick and Harmes was really a placeholder for a forward at that price to emerge.

Now, I am pretty high on Yeo as that upside player. The talk is that he is going to be fulltime midfield and I'm happy to take the swing that he lasts at least 5-6 weeks and can put some awesome scoring on the park and remove having to field a pretty sketchy D6. If he lasts until his bye, then its just amazing (assuming he is scoring well). If he gets injured early, then oh well, just parachute him down to mid-pricer or a Himmelberg off of his bye etc.

From there, we have about 650k and I'm happy to split that into another high upside pick with Fisher (although I am cooling on him) and Harmes as well. Harmes to me is just locking in someone who I think Bevo will like, can score in that HF role and if he gets CBAs, then amazing.

The other key thing though is these three slots are my most likely to change. If I start to like another pick more, then Yeo/Fisher/Harmes will be the first to move.
Interesting stuff, thanks mate.
 

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