Preview 2024 Rd 17 Carlton vs GWS Saturday 6th July 7:30PM @ Engie Stadium

[Aphrodite]

Team is in …

AFL team news: Blues welcome back two

Tom De Koning and Matthew Cottrell have been named for Round 17.

www.carltonfc.com.au

 

[ESKIE]

So George is an emergency, maybe Kennedy is a late out ..

 

[ESKIE]

Hewett might be a late in for Kennedy

Hey !

 

[tarczonandjane]

I’d be amazed if Hewett doesn’t take to the field. Get ready to chalk it up as another one of my incorrect calls…

 

[JJBagger]

Very odd.

Having great midfield depth is very odd?

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Love this side. Can run with anyone

 

[agro]

So Kennedy playing, interesting.

I’ll believe it when I see it

 

[Sector 7G]

Freo are playing very well and running with 2 rucks, different types of player though. If Voss thinks we are best off with 2 rucks he won't be scared to do it.

Pretty similar rucks really.
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[Opium]

Hewett unlucky

Tough side to get into now

How the heck does Hewett get dropped for Cottrell who hasn't played a game at any level in 6 weeks?

 

[Michael Jezz]

We are just a better football side than GWS.
Blues by 38 points

 

[BIuebagger]

George unlucky, I’d say Bam Bam doesn’t get up and he plays

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Did not expect Hewett to get dropped. That’s a strong team.

 

[Red_man2008]

So they’re without brown and Taylor in the backline. Elite disposer and elite KP defender. If they lose Ash too it means probably a first gamer comes in or they try to go taller with okeefe (whose past it imo) McKay and Curnow will kill him.

 

[Revenant1965]

Credit to Cotts and fitness staff. George unlucky. Looks like trying to see how this side will go as a 'quick play' team.

 

[Benaly28]

Hewett might be a late in for Kennedy

I’d say that’s the way it will
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[Canyouhearthedrums]

How the heck does Hewett get dropped for Cottrell who hasn't played a game at any level in 6 weeks?

I think it tells us he is seen as essential to the side, and they want to get games into him before finals.

 

[COACH25]

Good in’s but geez what is wrong with them leaving Hewett out been one of our better players all year. There is 3 to 4 others 100% before him. Shit call leaving him out

 

[agro]

George unlucky, I’d say Bam Bam doesn’t get up and he plays

You’d have to say this is what will happen.

 

[Bundy Bear Bogan]

I really really hope we never see two rucks in the same team again.

1. Melbourne had the number 1 and number 2 rucks on their list last season and proved it didn't work.

3. We were poor when we played 2 rucks and great when we haven't. We have proven it does not work for us either.

2. It goes against the very fundamentals of our team that have made us better. Improving our run which has improved our defending and pressure which are the backbone of our success. Picking two rucks goes against these things.

a) More run. In terms of closing speed pressure and two way run.
b) Forward line pressure is much much better without three talls and it's kicking more goals.
c) Team defence is much better as we are able to play that extra small forward and they are able to rotate and get up the ground and help out the defence.
d) Forward line connects much better because forwards are running harder and covering more ground
e) Midfield is much stronger as we can play an extra follower, means more rotations, means we run out games better.

3. Harry McKay plays a lot better when he rucks. Not only does he have a massive impact when he goes on the ball but it gets him into the game as a forward.

Results speak for themselves. Two rucks is dead and buried in the modern game. The hit it takes to your run. The defensive side of the game, rotations forward and mid and the way the forwards are able to do more running and connect with the defence when there's more run from them. It makes no sense to play 2 rucks. Game has changed since the ant-congestion rules.

Only reason we may see it is through player's missing. If we lose a tall forward and DeKoning may step into that role or if we need to rest players and we are short on forwards and the opposition is weak.

I think structurally we have absolutely nailed it at the moment.

Hammer, nail, head

 

[BigFrizz36]

So they’re without brown and Taylor in the backline. Elite disposer and elite KP defender. If they lose Ash too it means probably a first gamer comes in or they try to go taller with okeefe (whose past it imo) McKay and Curnow will kill him.

Isn't Brown a forward? Has kicked 2 goals in 4 games since coming back from suspension. Looks a fair bit like Idun though? They have Buckley and Himmelburg to play tall down back.

 

[My Hat]

Reckon this tells us a fair bit about where the coaches' thinking is at.

• 1 ruck preferred to 2
• Cottrell is valued (presumably for some combination of team mid/fwd balance, run, and high time on ground)
• Kennedy preferred to Hewett

Can't say I really disagree with any of it.

 

[JustOneTime]

Freo are playing very well and running with 2 rucks, different types of player though. If Voss thinks we are best off with 2 rucks he won't be scared to do it.

My guess why it works for Freo is that Darcy (30+) wins the tapouts while Jackson is a decent threat forward. They both offer a different ability that works for their side. Neither of our guys can win the hitouts (21 and 23) - they quite often end up with an average of mid 20s (solo). Both our rucks are weak forward.

It simply isnt a case of saying Freo have 2 rucks. It is much more detailed than that.

 

[Countryblueswitnotattoos]

I wonder if Cottrell is coming in to play a forward defensive role on their most damaging player, Whitfield?

 

[BigFrizz36]

I think it tells us he is seen as essential to the side, and they want to get games into him before finals.

Could also mean that if Kennedy comes up they would prefer to play Cotts as sub rather than George for a second week?

 

[skadoosh]

Isn't Brown a forward? Has kicked 2 goals in 4 games since coming back from suspension. Looks a fair bit like Idun though? They have Buckley and Himmelburg to play tall down back.

Yeah Callum Brown is a forward. He's out for Cadman.

 

[cookie monster]

Would say that lineup is only a Jack Martin

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Jack Martin

Age

29

Ht

186cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.2

4star

K

10.0

4star

HB

6.3

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.7

5star

G

0.9

4star

D

14.9

4star

K

7.9

3star

HB

7.0

4star

M

4.3

4star

T

3.6

4star

G

1.1

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

4.6

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.8

2star

T

2.0

4star

G

0.6

3star

away from our "Best 22"