List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread

[Passmore]

He is a gun, but i don’t think he is a genuine lock down small defender. Think he struggles on the zippy small forwards of the world (Cameron, Rankine ect).

Reckon he’ll head back to WA anyway.

Who are the lockdown smalls that we could target if we didn’t produce our own?

 

[Makeshift Park]

Who are the lockdown smalls that we could target if we didn’t produce our own?

Blake Hardwick makes a lot of sense.

 

[LB2Snake]

Saints apparently looking at TT

In fairness, he’d just be another in a long line of shithouse blokes to play for that mob.

 

[Mute Point]

I'd do it in a heartbeat

Absolutely

 

[The Dingrel]

Hypothetically we kept TT after his 18 week suspension (instead of axing) then decide to trade him at years end

What would he be worth? If true that a handful of clubs interested

This much

 

[The Nostradamus]

This much

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I reckon it would be a second rounder like someone else mentioned

Which isn’t a lot especially for someone of his talent but still would’ve been handy

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

Baker from Richmond?..

Baker (while a WA lad) would be perfect. Still has 5 years left and you can pretty much set and forget on any line and he’ll do his job.

 

[The Dingrel]

I reckon it would be a second rounder like someone else mentioned

Which isn’t a lot especially for someone of his talent but still would’ve been handy

Probably about right, at best a pick upgrade......Bennell and 22, for Freo''s 16 and 35 got that one done, but just don't think the club wants the speculation hanging around all year......right decision was made in my opinion, clean break for all parties, all aboard onwards and upwards.

 

[Harris 10]

With the salary cap rises Taylor and JUH will get deals of around 12 mil over 8 years to leave.

 

[Heaps of fun]

My favourite opposition player. That said, forget it. We aren't in the position to be going after players of his stature. And he has no reason to leave a contender

Explain.

 

[the big lebowski]

Everyone's gonna be looking at him come the end of the year

17 clubs will offer him a contract.

Will anyone speak out via the herald sun?

Doubt it.

 

[Lomas]

It’s an interesting one re TT.

The club has said he won’t play for us ever again, but us punters don’t know what contractual obligations NMFC and TT still have to each other.

If we’re still paying him anything, I imagine he’s still a tradeable asset for us.

(I don’t recall any official confirmation that he’s been delisted.)
And if he’s a tradeable asset, I would have thought we can expect rivals to bid trade currency to acquire him, and that North still gets to decide which trade deal to accept, subject to him satisfying the AFL’s requirements.

Clubs only get to have influence if they are prepared to keep or play hard ball. We won't do either.

 

[zoomba23]

Explain.

Already been through this regarding Jamarra. You need to jump off the bottom of the ladder and be on a very clear upward trajectory for blokes like that to even begin considering you. Then add in that he'd probably prefer playing in front of the sold-out Gabba compared to 4 games in a Hobart backwater and 7 other home games where the opposition fans outnumber us most of the time. If I were him and we made him an offer, I'd probably struggle not to laugh

 

[Makeshift Park]

I reckon it would be a second rounder like someone else mentioned

Which isn’t a lot especially for someone of his talent but still would’ve been handy

I dunno, maybe I'm missing something, there seems to be a few variables yet to be worked out.

Lets say TT wants to go to the Saints who hypothetically finish 6th on the ladder because they offer him the most money of any club.

Then the Saints offer North their second rounder.

Rawlings says: "we're not keeping him, but we know he's more than that."

TT gets cranky. Saints threaten the PSD.

Now lets say * finish 16th. And they're offering him 20% less than the Saints.

Would Big Brother Ben not tell him "they can get you in the PSD, but we both get less money out of it, so lets get the North the deal they want?"

Of course if its the 17th or 18th placed team offering the most money to him we're kinda up shit creek. Guess we gotta hope he doesn't have any interest in moving to Western Australia.

Suppose what I'm getting at is that while there's clearly no way we're getting as much for him as we would if he was playing this year, it could also be in his interest to help facilitate a good deal, depending on how things pan out.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Clubs only get to have influence if they are prepared to keep or play hard ball. We won't do either.

See my post above. I'm not saying we'll get what we should for him, but depending on the ladder, the market interest in him, and his ability to sort his shit out to a level that the AFL accepts, it might be that something acceptable eventuates.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Already been through this regarding Jamarra. You need to jump off the bottom of the ladder and be on a very clear upward trajectory for blokes like that to even begin considering you. Then add in that he'd probably prefer playing in front of the sold-out Gabba compared to 4 games in a Hobart backwater and 7 other home games where the opposition fans outnumber us most of the time. If I were him and we made him an offer, I'd probably struggle not to laugh

I'd punt the whole list management department if they were passing on guys like Taylor just because they're more likely to say no than yes. It's a loser mentality. We wouldn't have Logue if we thought like that. He's not as good as Taylor but we were the worst team of the seven that chased him and got his signature.

 

[My Left Foote]

It’s an interesting one re TT.

The club has said he won’t play for us ever again, but us punters don’t know what contractual obligations NMFC and TT still have to each other.

If we’re still paying him anything, I imagine he’s still a tradeable asset for us.

(I don’t recall any official confirmation that he’s been delisted.)

And if he’s a tradeable asset, I would have thought we can expect rivals to bid trade currency to acquire him, and that North still gets to decide which trade deal to accept, subject to him satisfying the AFL’s requirements.

Seems like there’s a grey area between being sacked and delisted, I suspect they’re working out whether we delist him now and get a list spot back say for the MSD and or if he is still on our list and can be traded or indeed delisted at the end of the year.

 

[Makeshift Park]

. Then add in that he'd probably prefer playing in front of the sold-out Gabba compared to 4 games in a Hobart backwater and 7 other home games where the opposition fans outnumber us most of the time. If I were him and we made him an offer, I'd probably struggle not to laugh

"Come to Brisbane, you'll love training in 30+ degrees most days over the preseason, you'll really love the sense of anonymity too, not much as you get in Sydney mind"

 

[Makeshift Park]

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Yeah none of that clarifies very much. It doesn't suggest he's been delisted.

 

[LB2Snake]

I dunno, maybe I'm missing something, there seems to be a few variables yet to be worked out.

Lets say TT wants to go to the Saints who hypothetically finish 6th on the ladder because they offer him the most money of any club.

Then the Saints offer North their second rounder.

Rawlings says: "we're not keeping him, but we know he's more than that."

TT gets cranky. Saints threaten the PSD.

Now lets say * finish 16th. And they're offering him 20% less than the Saints.

Would Big Brother Ben not tell him "they can get you in the PSD, but we both get less money out of it, so lets get the North the deal they want?"

Of course if its the 17th or 18th placed team offering the most money to him we're kinda up s**t creek. Guess we gotta hope he doesn't have any interest in moving to Western Australia.

Suppose what I'm getting at is that while there's clearly no way we're getting as much for him as we would if he was playing this year, it could also be in his interest to help facilitate a good deal, depending on how things pan out.

I was under the impression he could go wherever he wants as he’s no longer on our, or any, list. Is this wrong?

 

[Makeshift Park]

I was under the impression he could go wherever he wants as he’s no longer on our, or any, list. Is this wrong?

I don't think we know yet. Sonja and Todd have said he won't play for us again. I don't think we know what has happened with his contract yet.

 

[Lomas]

See my post above. I'm not saying we'll get what we should for him, but depending on the ladder, the market interest in him, and his ability to sort his s**t out to a level that the AFL accepts, it might be that something acceptable eventuates.

Unfortunately, acceptable for us now is TT off the list. I can't see that changing.

 

[Heaps of fun]

I wish any club trying to make an AFL footballer out of Bitchtits Thomas the best.

 

[My Left Foote]

Yeah none of that clarifies very much. It doesn't suggest he's been delisted.

I edited my post with some musings…

Seems like there’s a grey area between being sacked and delisted, I suspect they’re working out whether we delist him now and get a list spot back say for the MSD and or if he is still on our list and can be traded or indeed delisted at the end of the year.

 

[Makeshift Park]

I edited my post with some musings…

Yep, I think you're right, and I'm saying maybe we should keep our mind open to the likelihood he gets traded, even though the process could be pretty novel and the outcome isn't going to be fantastic.

He's in the AFL's "Retirements, Delistings and Trades" section, but they haven't actually labelled him as "delisted".