List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread

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Todd Goldstein could be available for those thinking of bringing mature types on board. Just about the $$$
 

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Here's what ChatGPT thinks we should do:

Which targets should North Melbourne chase in the 2024 trade period?

ChatGPT said:​


For North Melbourne in the 2024 trade period, there are a few key targets they might consider to bolster their list. Here’s a general approach they might take:
  1. Experienced Midfielders: Given that they’re in a rebuilding phase, adding some experienced midfielders could provide immediate impact and guidance to their younger players. Targets could include players who are nearing the end of their careers but still have a lot to offer in terms of leadership and game experience.
  2. Key Position Players: North Melbourne might look to strengthen their key position areas, both in defense and attack. They could target players who can provide stability and depth in these critical roles.
  3. Emerging Talent: It’s always a good idea to target young, emerging talent who can be developed into future stars. This could be through trading for young players who are struggling for game time at their current clubs or securing promising draftees.
  4. Versatile Players: Versatile players who can fill multiple roles could be valuable additions. They can provide depth across various positions and help with injuries or form fluctuations.
  5. Outside Speed and Skill: Adding players with pace and skill on the outside can help North Melbourne become more dynamic and competitive. These players can improve the team’s transition game and add some flair.
In terms of specific names, it would depend on who is available and which clubs are willing to trade. Keeping an eye on players whose contracts are expiring or who may be looking for a change of scenery can provide some clues. It's also essential for North Melbourne to consider their draft strategy and any potential trades that could bring in future draft picks to continue building for the long term. They would be best advised to do whatever the Nostradamus thinks is best.
 
Split 2 for 6 and 11
Trade Will Phillips and our R2 to someone for a late R1

Trade 11 and late R1 for Houston

p6, Houston, Parker, Owies

What’s Majak Daw up to these days?
 
Here's what ChatGPT thinks we should do:

Which targets should North Melbourne chase in the 2024 trade period?

ChatGPT said:​


For North Melbourne in the 2024 trade period, there are a few key targets they might consider to bolster their list. Here’s a general approach they might take:
  1. Experienced Midfielders: Given that they’re in a rebuilding phase, adding some experienced midfielders could provide immediate impact and guidance to their younger players. Targets could include players who are nearing the end of their careers but still have a lot to offer in terms of leadership and game experience.
  2. Key Position Players: North Melbourne might look to strengthen their key position areas, both in defense and attack. They could target players who can provide stability and depth in these critical roles.
  3. Emerging Talent: It’s always a good idea to target young, emerging talent who can be developed into future stars. This could be through trading for young players who are struggling for game time at their current clubs or securing promising draftees.
  4. Versatile Players: Versatile players who can fill multiple roles could be valuable additions. They can provide depth across various positions and help with injuries or form fluctuations.
  5. Outside Speed and Skill: Adding players with pace and skill on the outside can help North Melbourne become more dynamic and competitive. These players can improve the team’s transition game and add some flair.
In terms of specific names, it would depend on who is available and which clubs are willing to trade. Keeping an eye on players whose contracts are expiring or who may be looking for a change of scenery can provide some clues. It's also essential for North Melbourne to consider their draft strategy and any potential trades that could bring in future draft picks to continue building for the long term. They would be best advised to do whatever the Nostradamus thinks is best.
Lol.

All this time Nostra was ChatGPT.
 
We are going to have bring in some mature guys as we are once again getting significantly younger with the retirements/potential delistings of Shiels, Greenwood, Tarryn Thomas, Curtis Taylor and Hamish Free.

Add that 2023 when we let go Cunners, Goldy, Ziebs, Hall, Howe and Turner that's a truck load of experience to see exit the Club over two years.

Its hard to fathom just how bad a spot our list was in until you go through this exercise.
 

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We are going to have bring in some mature guys as we are once again getting significantly younger with the retirements/potential delistings of Shiels, Greenwood, Tarryn Thomas, Curtis Taylor and Hamish Free.

Add that 2023 when we let go Cunners, Goldy, Ziebs, Hall, Howe and Turner that's a truck load of experience to see exit the Club over two years.

Its hard to fathom just how bad a spot our list was in until you go through this exercise.
I'd change was to is.

There's still 10-15 guys we could delist on the spot who would not affect our onfield fortunes one iota.
 
Here's what ChatGPT thinks we should do:

Which targets should North Melbourne chase in the 2024 trade period?

ChatGPT said:​


For North Melbourne in the 2024 trade period, there are a few key targets they might consider to bolster their list. Here’s a general approach they might take:
  1. Experienced Midfielders: Given that they’re in a rebuilding phase, adding some experienced midfielders could provide immediate impact and guidance to their younger players. Targets could include players who are nearing the end of their careers but still have a lot to offer in terms of leadership and game experience.
  2. Key Position Players: North Melbourne might look to strengthen their key position areas, both in defense and attack. They could target players who can provide stability and depth in these critical roles.
  3. Emerging Talent: It’s always a good idea to target young, emerging talent who can be developed into future stars. This could be through trading for young players who are struggling for game time at their current clubs or securing promising draftees.
  4. Versatile Players: Versatile players who can fill multiple roles could be valuable additions. They can provide depth across various positions and help with injuries or form fluctuations.
  5. Outside Speed and Skill: Adding players with pace and skill on the outside can help North Melbourne become more dynamic and competitive. These players can improve the team’s transition game and add some flair.
In terms of specific names, it would depend on who is available and which clubs are willing to trade. Keeping an eye on players whose contracts are expiring or who may be looking for a change of scenery can provide some clues. It's also essential for North Melbourne to consider their draft strategy and any potential trades that could bring in future draft picks to continue building for the long term. They would be best advised to do whatever the Nostradamus thinks is best.
Chatgpt needs to learn how to prioritise recent news in its decision making. Here’s what it told me:

Sure, let's dive into the 2024 trade season for North Melbourne Football Club. Here are some key targets and an analysis of each:

### 1. Jack Viney (Melbourne)
Pros:
  • Experience: Viney is a seasoned midfielder with a premiership under his belt.
  • Leadership: Known for his leadership qualities, which could benefit North Melbourne's young list.
  • Toughness: Brings a hard edge to the midfield, known for his tackling and contested ball work.

Cons:
  • Age: At 30, Viney is nearing the latter stages of his career.
  • Injury History: Has had some injury concerns in the past.

Likelihood of Success: Medium - Viney is contracted until 2025, but his father's role at North Melbourne could be a persuasive factor⁶.

### 2. Ben Ainsworth (Gold Coast)
Pros:
  • Versatility: Can play both as a small forward and a midfielder.
  • Youth: At 26, he still has many years of football ahead.
  • Goal Sense: Proven goal kicker, which North Melbourne needs.

Cons:
  • Consistency: Has struggled with consistency throughout his career.
  • Injury Concerns: Has had some injury issues that could be a risk.

Likelihood of Success: High - Ainsworth might be looking for a fresh start, and North Melbourne could offer him a prominent role⁵.

### 3. Jacob Hopper (GWS Giants)
Pros:
  • Inside Midfielder: Strong in contested situations, which would bolster North's midfield.
  • Age: At 27, he is in his prime.
  • Experience: Has played in big games and finals.

Cons:
  • Contract: Still has time left on his contract, making the trade potentially costly.
  • Injury History: Has had some injuries that could be a concern.

Likelihood of Success: Medium - GWS might be willing to trade if the right offer comes along¹.

### 4. Jarman Impey (Hawthorn)
Pros:
  • Speed: Adds much-needed pace to the team.
  • Experience: Has played over 100 games and brings experience to the backline.
  • Versatility: Can play both in defense and on the wing.

Cons:
  • Injury History: Has had significant injuries in the past.
  • Age: At 29, he is not a long-term solution.

Likelihood of Success: Medium - Hawthorn might be open to trading him as they rebuild⁵.

### 5. Sam Hayes (Port Adelaide)
Pros:
  • Ruck Depth: Provides depth in the ruck position, which North Melbourne needs.
  • Youth: At 25, he has plenty of football ahead of him.
  • Potential: Has shown promise but needs more game time.

Cons:
  • Experience: Limited AFL experience so far.
  • Development: Still developing and might take time to reach his potential.

Likelihood of Success: High - Port Adelaide might be willing to trade for the right price[^10^].

These targets could help North Melbourne address key areas of need and add both experience and potential to their list. What do you think of these options?

Source: Conversation with Copilot, 21/8/2024
(1) AFL 2024: Alastair Clarkson confirms interest in Jack Viney, North .... https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/te...s/news-story/bab06f6a2d31758fecf69fffb49b9da0.
(2) Club Focus - North Melbourne 2024 | BigFooty Forum. https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/north-melbourne-2024.1377280/.
(3) North Melbourne boss discusses 2024 trade and free agency plans, Mid .... https://www.zerohanger.com/north-me...ft-targets-and-priority-pick-decision-150660/.
(4) 2024 North Melbourne Football Club season | Australian Rules Football .... https://australian-rules-football.fandom.com/wiki/2024_North_Melbourne_Football_Club_season.
(5) North Melbourne's ins, outs and draft picks after the Trade Period. https://www.nmfc.com.au/news/145386...s-outs-and-draft-picks-after-the-trade-period.
(6) AFL 2024, trade news: North Melbourne Kangaroos become unsolvable .... https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/af...s/news-story/3ff8cf5d4b4f5aac60a792a1c448e9b8.
(7) The Big Questions – 2024 North Melbourne Season Preview. https://themongrelpunt.com/afl-seas...uestions-2024-north-melbourne-season-preview/.
(8) North Melbourne Kangaroos News - AFL 2024 - Zero Hanger. https://www.zerohanger.com/afl/teams/north-melbourne-kangaroos/.
(9) North Melbourne Playing List for 2024 - Draftguru. https://www.draftguru.com.au/lists/2024/north-melbourne.
(10) Clear voids that must be filled: An early look at North Melbourne's .... https://www.sen.com.au/news/2023/11...ed-an-early-look-at-north-melbournes-best-22/.
 
North get: Tim Taranto, Pick 17
North give: 2025 first round pick, pick 40

Richmond give: Shai Bolton, Tim Taranto
Richmond get: Pick 9, pick 40, 2025 first round pick (NM)

Fremantle give: Pick 9, Pick 17
Fremantle get: Shai Bolton

its not inconceivable that Richmond end up with Pick 1, 5 (Rioli), 9, plus another first round pick for Baker

Thats 4 picks in the first round this year.

They will finish bottom again next year and i think North finish between 12th and 14th, so another top 5 pick.

They dominate the next two drafts. North get their big bodied mid they need to wear the brunt for LDU and Sheezel.

North is a far more attractive place than Richmond at the moment, and Taranto has been sold a lemon by the Tigers.
 
North get: Tim Taranto, Pick 17
North give: 2025 first round pick, pick 40

Richmond give: Shai Bolton, Tim Taranto
Richmond get: Pick 9, pick 40, 2025 first round pick (NM)

Fremantle give: Pick 9, Pick 17
Fremantle get: Shai Bolton

its not inconceivable that Richmond end up with Pick 1, 5 (Rioli), 9, plus another first round pick for Baker

Thats 4 picks in the first round this year.

They will finish bottom again next year and i think North finish between 12th and 14th, so another top 5 pick.

They dominate the next two drafts. North get their big bodied mid they need to wear the brunt for LDU and Sheezel.

North is a far more attractive place than Richmond at the moment, and Taranto has been sold a lemon by the Tigers.
Is North Melbourne a far more attractive place than Richmond at the moment, and has Tim Taranto has been "sold a lemon" by the Tigers?

ChatGPT said:​


Comparing North Melbourne and Richmond in terms of attractiveness to players and evaluating Tim Taranto’s situation with Richmond involves considering several aspects:

Attractiveness of North Melbourne vs. Richmond

North Melbourne:
  1. Rebuilding Phase: North Melbourne is in a significant rebuilding phase, which can be appealing to young players looking for opportunities for game time and development. They’re focused on nurturing young talent and building for the future.
  2. Long-Term Vision: The club’s long-term vision and strategic planning can attract players who are interested in being part of a growing project. If North Melbourne’s trajectory is seen as upward, it might be appealing to players who want to contribute to that growth.
  3. Cultural and Community Aspects: North Melbourne has a strong local following and a dedicated fan base. For some players, the community aspect and the potential to become a central figure in a club’s rise can be motivating.
Richmond:
  1. Recent Success: Richmond has been more successful recently, with multiple premierships and a strong, established team culture. This success can make it attractive to players who want to compete for immediate success and be part of a high-performing environment.
  2. Established Players and Leadership: Richmond’s roster includes many experienced and successful players, which can be appealing for players looking to learn from some of the best in the game and be part of a well-oiled machine.
  3. Competitive Environment: The competitive nature and recent successes of Richmond might attract players who are eager to be part of a team with a strong chance of winning premierships in the near term.

Tim Taranto’s Situation with Richmond

Performance and Expectations:
  1. Initial Trade Expectations: Richmond acquired Tim Taranto with the expectation that he would be a key player in their midfield, bringing his skills and leadership from GWS. If he has struggled to meet these expectations, it could lead to questions about the trade.
  2. Injuries and Form: If Taranto has faced injuries or form issues, it might impact his performance and the perception of the trade’s success. Injuries or adaptation periods can affect a player’s impact on their new team.
  3. Team Fit: Taranto’s fit within Richmond’s game plan and system is crucial. If his playing style hasn’t aligned well with Richmond’s strategies or if he’s struggled to adapt, it could influence how he’s perceived.
Long-Term Considerations:
  1. Future Contributions: Evaluating whether Taranto has been “sold a lemon” involves considering his potential long-term contributions. If he can find form and contribute significantly, the trade might still prove valuable.
  2. Overall Impact: The impact of the trade should also be evaluated in the context of Richmond’s overall team performance and strategy. If the trade brought in other valuable assets or has strategic long-term benefits, it might still be seen as a positive move despite initial challenges.
In summary, North Melbourne’s attractiveness might stem from its rebuilding opportunities and long-term vision, while Richmond offers recent success and a competitive environment. As for Tim Taranto, whether he’s been “sold a lemon” depends on his performance, fit within Richmond’s system, and the broader impact of the trade on the team’s success.
 
Apparently port want richards

But he’s Victorian so if we went for him I reckon he chooses us easily

I wouldn't say they specifically want Richards. They are just in the mkt for a small fwd, Owies has been mentioned their way too


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