List Mgmt. 2024 Trade & List Management Thread

[Possession]

Not concerning myself with the whereabouts and doings of TT. It is not relevant to this team any more.

 

[Horizons_00]

Change the team colours = Change the man.

If he is picked up, the same sh*will happen (unfortunately) but it will just be buried ($$$) and media will look the other way.

People can actually grow up and change.

 

[chubbspeterson]

Mackie on trading TT - “we dont care what he does if he brings his best and wins a flag”

Yeh, we should never have sacked him. We are gluttons for punishment.

I'm not sure how the club could look the staff (particularly the women) and the women's team in the eye and feel great about keeping him around after yet another transgression. I think the trust was gone and it would've been draining for the whole club.
The only scenario that could've played out was an awkward hold out until trade week for a 3rd rounder at the trade table.
Also it wouldn't surprise me if TT knew exactly what he was doing when he transgressed again and saw it as a way out to his club of choice. Either that or he's just incredibly naive in not thinking it could end his career.
I'll wait for the articles with comments from the women reacting to his recruitment when it is announced at his new club.
Surely there is some pushback.

 

[Heaps of fun]

Not concerning myself with the whereabouts and doings of TT. It is not relevant to this team any more.

Plus also all this missing him rubbish actually implies he played more than nine games a year. He's never been a reliable AFL player and most likely never will be.

 

[Danni_Benson]

The teams who successfully turn around the careers of wayward players (Sydney, Collingwood Richmond, Port, Geelong) all have partisan media mouthpieces who can help control the narrative (or ignore it all together). They are all generally the big clubs or in Sydney’s case an AFL darling.

North are sitting ducks in the media, and are mostly despised as a club.

While they probably have an extensive bureaucracy of leadership and resources to provide help to struggling players, their ability to control and silence the stories is just as effective.

Winning games plays a big part…

 

[Danni_Benson]

Not concerning myself with the whereabouts and doings of TT. It is not relevant to this team any more.

Exactly. It’s done!

 

[Only Forwards]

Plus also all this missing him rubbish actually implies he played more than nine games a year. He's never been a reliable AFL player and most likely never will be.

Im tipping any pathway back into the AFL is not going to be as simple as a club going yoik you're ours now.

 

[ferball]

I'm not sure how the club could look the staff (particularly the women) and the women's team in the eye and feel great about keeping him around after yet another transgression. I think the trust was gone and it would've been draining for the whole club.
The only scenario that could've played out was an awkward hold out until trade week for a 3rd rounder at the trade table.
Also it wouldn't surprise me if TT knew exactly what he was doing when he transgressed again and saw it as a way out to his club of choice. Either that or he's just incredibly naive in not thinking it could end his career.
I'll wait for the articles with comments from the women reacting to his recruitment when it is announced at his new club.
Surely there is some pushback.

I think its more that he is just unable to control his behaviour in certain situations.

 

[chubbspeterson]

I think its more that he is just unable to control his behaviour in certain situations.

You might be right. We'll see how he goes at his new club.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I'd take Brandan Parfitt

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Brandan Parfitt

Age

26

Ht

180cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

8.4

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

2.1

2star

T

4.8

5star

CL

1.9

4star

D

15.3

4star

K

8.5

3star

HB

6.8

4star

M

1.5

2star

T

7.8

5star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

8.4

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

0.6

3star

from the Cats as a cheapish free agent option. He has always been a solid defensively minded midfielder who is super accountable. Avg Wouldn't offer the world, but a two year deal on decent money could get him across. Has avg'd close to 6 tackles a game across the course of his career.

 

[Merlin007]

I'd take Brandan Parfitt from the Cats as a cheapish free agent option. He has always been a solid defensively minded midfielder who is super accountable. Avg Wouldn't offer the world, but a two year deal on decent money could get him across. Has avg'd close to 6 tackles a game across the course of his career.

I like the thinking, but as an RFA (a) Geelong will match a 2 year deal and force a trade, so it begs the question what we would offer and (b) not sure how many established players would move from a successful club on a 2 year deal?

 

[DunderHead]

I like the thinking, but as an RFA (a) Geelong will match a 2 year deal and force a trade, so it begs the question what we would offer and (b) not sure how many established players would move from a successful club on a 2 year deal?

You offer more money than them

 

[Merlin007]

You offer more money than them

Sure, I guess that's almost by definition, but I think most on here discount the importance of contract duration to players. If you're buying a house, do you want 2 years at 700 or 4 on 600?

Of course these are only finger-in-the-wind figures but on the evidence thus far, not many established players shift on 2 year deals. The point is relevant to current discussions about some of our trades, Stephens being a case in point - offered 2 by Sydney, and it took 4 to trump it.

 

[My Left Foote]

Sure, I guess that's almost by definition, but I think most on here discount the importance of contract duration to players. If you're buying a house, do you want 2 years at 700 or 4 on 600?

Of course these are only finger-in-the-wind figures but on the evidence thus far, not many established players shift on 2 year deals. The point is relevant to current discussions about some of our trades, Stephens being a case in point - offered 2 by Sydney, and it took 4 to trump it.

Agree, when you think of the players we've gotten from other clubs Stephenson 5 years, CCJ 5 years, Stephens 4 years etc. the length of the contract is the most enticing component.

 

[Harris 10]

I'd take Brandan Parfitt from the Cats as a cheapish free agent option. He has always been a solid defensively minded midfielder who is super accountable. Avg Wouldn't offer the world, but a two year deal on decent money could get him across. Has avg'd close to 6 tackles a game across the course of his career.

I’ve never understood why he’s still at Geelong, he’s an AFL player that should be playing every week.

Jack Graham is another I’d look at, big bodied, versatile, right age bracket, good leadership.

 

[The Law]

Im tipping any pathway back into the AFL is not going to be as simple as a club going yoik you're ours now.

If it's a big club that has political pull or delivers the AFL a lot of money I think it'll be a very easy process. For example, if Carlton are a whisker away from a premiership this season there is zero doubt in my mind that the AFL would gift TT to them. Same story for * if they were showing improvement. The AFL would love both clubs to push up to the level of Collingwood and bring more membership numbers.

We know how good the AFL are at using the media to spin whatever narrative they need. Money talks.

 

[Shermanator]

I'd take Brandan Parfitt from the Cats as a cheapish free agent option. He has always been a solid defensively minded midfielder who is super accountable. Avg Wouldn't offer the world, but a two year deal on decent money could get him across. Has avg'd close to 6 tackles a game across the course of his career.

Could he play the Sheez or Colby role to free them upfield?..

 

[big_e]

Agree, when you think of the players we've gotten from other clubs Stephenson 5 years, CCJ 5 years, Stephens 4 years etc. the length of the contract is the most enticing component.

And how's that working out for us?

 

[My Left Foote]

And how's that working out for us?

I was agreeing with the premise that the length of contract is important to enticing players from other clubs and not whether those trades have been successful or not.

Regardless of whether it's enticing players from other clubs or extending our own players it will most likely be long contract like Sheezel & Larkey or the Dogs extending Aaron Naughton.

 

[roos_fanatic08]

I’ve never understood why he’s still at Geelong, he’s an AFL player that should be playing every week.

Jack Graham is another I’d look at, big bodied, versatile, right age bracket, good leadership.

Totally. Surprised he didn't look for greener pastures last year. Only signed a one year deal. In the right age bracket that he could still play plenty of footy for us too.

Could he play the Sheez or Colby role to free them upfield?..

Don't think he is a half back. More a defensively minded midfielder, which we need more of.

 

[Psychic Roo]

“Great” LDU photo in The Age of collingwood FA targets.. cue the outrage when draft compensation is discussed in coming months if he doesn't sign. See Mckay
Same vultures/people targeting contracted star players from battling clubs screaming when those clubs get anything back close to whats lost. Pick 2 for a 25 year old ldu is unders.

 

[Harris 10]

“Great” LDU photo in The Age of collingwood FA targets.. cue the outrage when draft compensation is discussed in coming months if he doesn't sign. See Mckay
Same vultures/people targeting contracted star players from battling clubs screaming when those clubs get anything back close to whats lost. Pick 2 for a 25 year old ldu is unders.

Wait to we get first round compo for Zurhaar.

 

[ohmygewd]

Agree, when you think of the players we've gotten from other clubs Stephenson 5 years, CCJ 5 years, Stephens 4 years etc. the length of the contract is the most enticing component.

100%, most FA's or RFA's will want 4-5yr contracts as that's seems to be the current mood...Zac Fisher 4yrs(?).
Incidently, majority will come out of contract in 2027..when does the Tassie team come in?

 

[King Corey]

Totally. Surprised he didn't look for greener pastures last year. Only signed a one year deal. In the right age bracket that he could still play plenty of footy for us too.




Don't think he is a half back. More a defensively minded midfielder, which we need more of.

Unfortunately most players would probably rather toil away for off books payments and an outside chance of breaking into the cats side then walk into ours each week.

 

[giantroo]

“Great” LDU photo in The Age of collingwood FA targets.. cue the outrage when draft compensation is discussed in coming months if he doesn't sign. See Mckay
Same vultures/people targeting contracted star players from battling clubs screaming when those clubs get anything back close to whats lost. Pick 2 for a 25 year old ldu is unders.

Except LDU isn't a FA until next year. Any club that wants him will have to trade for him this year.