List Mgmt. 2024 Trade Thread - No.2

[Winmar2Lockett]

I don't think so. We bounced like them last year on the back of improved youth. Clubs will work them out and slow them down and they will have to try and deal with that.

There is a big difference between being genuinely good and being good because people took you lightly and you jumped them.

Hawks are more the latter IMO

Hawks have had an amazing injury run too.

Outside of Lewis & Blanck they've had the vast majority of their best 22 available most weeks.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

But Howard "feels gettable" to two nerds who need to fill up minutes on the afl app.

Two Nerds, read bigfooty, find rumours someone made up.
Big Footy users, read/watch gettable , use it to substantiate rumours.

 

[Captain Paddy]

Think you're undervaluing Mitchell's influence and potential as a Coach.

Not really. I'm just saying lets see it last 24 months+, not 16 weeks

 

[DougalHoward]

If both Howard and Battle go we'll be bottom 2 next season.

 

[BrutThough]

I don't think so. We bounced like them last year on the back of improved youth. Clubs will work them out and slow them down and they will have to try and deal with that.

There is a big difference between being genuinely good and being good because people took you lightly and you jumped them.

Hawks are more the latter IMO

They remind me a bit of Adelaide last year.

 

[Klaatu]

If both Howard and Battle go we'll be bottom 2 next season.

Bit dramatic Dougal you after another contract & you can't say that until you see who replaces them.

 

[Saints43]

Think you're undervaluing Mitchell's influence and potential as a Coach.

Was just thinking about the happy attacking celecbrating Hawks.
Remember all the plaudits for last years scoring machines that played football the right way?
Adelaide.

We'll see how the hawks go when the top ten teams see them as a finals rival and put time into them.
They'll have players getting sat on for the first time like Naz did at the start of this season and they'll need to work through it as well.

 

[Saintbloke]

I don't think so. We bounced like them last year on the back of improved youth. Clubs will work them out and slow them down and they will have to try and deal with that.

There is a big difference between being genuinely good and being good because people took you lightly and you jumped them.

Hawks are more the latter IMO

Nah- they are playing genuinely good team football and their systems are working well. They were on their way to this style last season with a few holes here and there, but now they have fixed some of those deficiencies. They have left us behind, and I reckon North will do the same in a couple of seasons. I don't want this scenario at all, but I think the club just messed up too many things with players, list management, changing coach etc.

 

[Joffaboy]

Two Nerds, read bigfooty, find rumours someone made up.
Big Footy users, read/watch gettable , use it to substantiate rumours.

And...? You do realise this is a potential trade thread on a football nuffie forum, don't you?

On SM-S908E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Saintos The ITK]

IMO Hawks were prepared to suffer for a few seasons in order to get their run and gun style perfected.
To their utmost surprise it only took a year.

 

[saintbill]

IMO Hawks were prepared to suffer for a few seasons in preserve to get their run and gun style perfected.
To their utmost surprise it only took a year.

Maybe Lyons 2000s games style will come back into vogue if we just hold the fort for another 3 decades.

Retro Saints, just got to believe a bit harder.

 

[PoppedCorn]

find a ruck, play campbell, heath, what ever and they ruck the centre and fwd

put marshall in battles spot at chb he is more mobile than battle and takes all the ruck in the back line


can easily be switched around
hammer and sharman can swing back, marshall can go fwd and ruck the centre when starting ruck rests

throw the sink at a gun ruck

roma ****ing dominates when he swings back and fills the hole

 

[Jade Buddha]

If both Howard and Battle go we'll be bottom 2 next season.

Yeah nah

 

[Premium]

If both Howard and Battle go we'll be bottom 2 next season.

I wouldn't think it would be that drastic , but losing both would leave us with hardly anything.
To me Battle is a must keep , he is at the age now to really become a leader in the defense.
Howard is far better than what they say on here - but would you swap him for a Taranto - yes I would.

Of course people say if we get pick 6 for him we should take it but really if you look at this year with the amount of narrow losses we have had there is no reason we should be playing finals next year if we don't weaken the squad.

We have vast improvement in our current team with all of the kids and Nas is already showing he is a star and standout games from Sharman , Phillipou is just showing us we have some top quality kids in this team.

Hit the draft for sure , but I would be looking at any team with disgruntled young players and one team I would be looking at the kids is at the Bombers - even the media a potting there recruitment / not surprising because Dildo was making the calls , but they have had high draft picks and a lot showed promise but have now been labeled soft - guys like Perkins , Jones , Reid , Cox , Bryan , Tsatas and I'm sure our coaches could turn them in the right direction.

It must be remembered we have not had a great year and a few players didn't produce or were hampered by injury - like Sinclair had a hampered preseason and never really got back to his best till 1/2 way through the season.
King never performed to expectations , Crouch looks to be finished which is a big loss , Clark was hardly seen until the season was finished , Dow has been a disappointment.
Wood and Webster missing a large chunk of the year along with Henry.
But a part from this we only really got destroyed twice - once by the Dogs and the other was the Lions.

So really we are not far off it - who's not to say Owens , Windhager , Philipou , Wilson take a huge step next year and dominate along with King , Sharman and Henry , we all have seen Nas has taken that next step.

 

[_Maximus_12]

Brayden Campbell would be worth asking the question of.
Looks like he could explode with midfield minutes but he’s never cracking a regular gig in Sydney

 

[joydivision22]

Brayden Campbell would be worth asking the question of.
Looks like he could explode with midfield minutes but he’s never cracking a regular gig in Sydney

Great call, love him! Beautiful kick would be perfect but contracted until end of next year though so we’d need to plant the seed now and work him next year

 

[akaifu]

Brayden Campbell would be worth asking the question of.
Looks like he could explode with midfield minutes but he’s never cracking a regular gig in Sydney

He ain't winning you any contested ball

 

[Pakenhamsaint]

Someone texted into Fineys Final Siren with a rumour we have signed Shiel on a 2 year deal

 

[austinnn]

I wouldn't think it would be that drastic , but losing both would leave us with hardly anything.
To me Battle is a must keep , he is at the age now to really become a leader in the defense.
Howard is far better than what they say on here - but would you swap him for a Taranto - yes I would.

Of course people say if we get pick 6 for him we should take it but really if you look at this year with the amount of narrow losses we have had there is no reason we should be playing finals next year if we don't weaken the squad.

We have vast improvement in our current team with all of the kids and Nas is already showing he is a star and standout games from Sharman , Phillipou is just showing us we have some top quality kids in this team.

Hit the draft for sure , but I would be looking at any team with disgruntled young players and one team I would be looking at the kids is at the Bombers - even the media a potting there recruitment / not surprising because Dildo was making the calls , but they have had high draft picks and a lot showed promise but have now been labeled soft - guys like Perkins , Jones , Reid , Cox , Bryan , Tsatas and I'm sure our coaches could turn them in the right direction.

It must be remembered we have not had a great year and a few players didn't produce or were hampered by injury - like Sinclair had a hampered preseason and never really got back to his best till 1/2 way through the season.
King never performed to expectations , Crouch looks to be finished which is a big loss , Clark was hardly seen until the season was finished , Dow has been a disappointment.
Wood and Webster missing a large chunk of the year along with Henry.
But a part from this we only really got destroyed twice - once by the Dogs and the other was the Lions.

So really we are not far off it - who's not to say Owens , Windhager , Philipou , Wilson take a huge step next year and dominate along with King , Sharman and Henry , we all have seen Nas has taken that next step.

I know I'm repetitive, but I just think Battle is brave, honest, skilled, hardworking, extroverted, versatile AND has a great surname!

I've got a feeling the media will make a massive deal of the Captain Battle premiership era of Hawthorn while we're constantly consoling ourselves that there was nothing we could have done and that it was the only way to get that extra top 10 draft pick on the next Jack Billings or Jade Gresham.

 

[Saints4ever]

12 reasons you can’t just rely on, it’s ok we will bring in Top 10 picks.

Nate Caddy, Nik Cox, Dyson Heppell, Andrew McGrath

1

Andrew Mcgrath

Age

26

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

252.9

4star

D

22.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

11.1

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

252.9

4star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

1.2

2star

T

6.4

5star

MG

219.0

4star

, Darcy Parish

3

Darcy Parish

Age

27

Ht

180cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.4

5star

K

9.2

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

3.3

5star

CL

3.2

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

9.1

5star

M

1.4

2star

T

2.0

3star

CL

3.1

4star

D

22.2

5star

K

7.6

3star

HB

14.6

5star

M

3.2

4star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

, Archie Perkins, Zach Reid, Will Setterfield

12

Will Setterfield

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

87kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.3

4star

K

9.5

4star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.6

5star

CL

1.8

4star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.9

4star

HB

5.1

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

4.4

5star

CL

2.9

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

1.4

4star

, Jake Stringer

25

Jake Stringer

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.8

5star

D

8.5

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.5

1star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

4star

G

2.5

5star

D

7.2

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

, Elijah Tsatas, Sam Weideman

10

Sam Weideman

Age

27

Ht

197cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.6

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

4.9

4star

M

3.7

4star

T

1.5

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

7.0

1star

K

4.3

2star

HB

2.8

2star

M

3.8

4star

T

0.5

1star

G

1.8

5star

D

9.2

3star

K

3.6

2star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

0.4

3star

G

1.2

4star

, Peter Wright

Essendon football club lol

 

[Saints4ever]

12 reasons you can’t just rely on, it’s ok we will bring in Top 10 picks.

Nate Caddy, Nik Cox, Dyson Heppell, Andrew McGrath, Darcy Parish, Archie Perkins, Zach Reid, Will Setterfield, Jake Stringer, Elijah Tsatas, Sam Weideman, Peter Wright

Essendon football club lol

I actually forgot Stringer was taken at pick 5 by the dogs.
No guarantees folks no guarantees.
Battle is a guarantee.
I’m sad he’s leaving.

 

[akaifu]

I actually forgot Stringer was taken at pick 5 by the dogs.
No guarantees folks no guarantees.
Battle is a guarantee.
I’m sad he’s leaving.

Isn't Stringer an All-Australian and premiership player?

 

[akaifu]

12 reasons you can’t just rely on, it’s ok we will bring in Top 10 picks.

Nate Caddy, Nik Cox, Dyson Heppell, Andrew McGrath, Darcy Parish, Archie Perkins, Zach Reid, Will Setterfield, Jake Stringer, Elijah Tsatas, Sam Weideman, Peter Wright

Essendon football club lol

If we draft like that, keeping Battle won't change a darn thing. We'd be buried in the sand dog shit

Good thing is we've drafted Wilson, Pou, Nas over the past 3 years. That's an elite return considering they were all outside the top 10 so we just gotta back in the list mgmt team (even though Toce left). Now to see what they can do with a couple of top 10 picks in an even draft

 

[Nutsngum]

Someone texted into Fineys Final Siren with a rumour we have signed Shiel on a 2 year deal

Mark Fine is a Saints tragic. Theyre just trying to wind him up.

 

[Saints4ever]

Isn't Stringer an All-Australian and premiership player?

Yeah he’s had the odd good year.
I wouldn’t want him even at his best.