Apex36
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Don’t get too carried away. Pendles was only 23 and Sidey was 20 when they won in 2010 and had to wait 13 years for another.
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I remember in 2010, how people would say that we would win more premierships because of our young list. We had to wait 13 years. Not that I'm saying that you shouldn't get excited.
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You forgot to mention that this dynasty is run by a much better organisation and coaching group. We should have won in 2011 but we had a proxy coach and a weak administration
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No more tail wagging the dog...
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That’s a big call - to have ever played for the Pies. In the modern era perhaps - whenever that is from, 1970s? 1980s? But otherwise I agree we have lucked out with these two crossing paths. We saw the magic in the GF. But I’m just not sure if Pendles can keep going, although the guy is a freak.
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Having played a lot of football in the 70's and 80's and with a few ex Collingwood players, I have to say that the standard back then, compared to today is miles apart. It really didn't have the athleticism and quality of today's footy. We had a lot of naturally gifted players but we probably wouldn't even make today's VFL team. Not trying to be negative but I think perspective has to be brought into it. It didn't help that most were having a smoke at half time
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The point is that we are very light on for those, especially the high ones with our current success and trading policies.
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His Career has only Started really
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I think Pendlebury by his longevity and continual high standard is there already with Buckley and Rose as probably the best 3 to have played for the Pies.Bobby Rose the best player we have had since and before the 50,s and Buck,s and Pendles the 2 best since.
I know Daics was a freak and Carman because of what he was capable of showed if remaining on the straight and narrow he was in the top 2 if not 1 but he was a dill.
I would like to see Pendles and Steele get 1 more each but nothing is a given but at least we have a coach knows how to deliver but importantly knows he cements his legacy as coach of Collingwood by keeping his eye on the ball at all times something MM could not do.
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He would have won the Brownlow and probably the other one he missed this year due to injury,and how he received no votes against the Suns was a disgrace.
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Yes 380 games in this day and age will not happen to often from now on, how many players playing ATM have 300 games up and look like they could last another 5yrs to get to 400 not many I would say.
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I do not think our current coach would ever contemplate that as he has come through under Matthews and is interested in leaving his mark on our club and I am all for it. He only needed a bit of luck and he could have 2 flags in 2 yrs. We are so much better run these days in all areas that we could be successful for a while yet.
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Maybe it’s better we have an old this time
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The list age is skewed by Pendles being 83. Him and Steele were running around like 21yos in the last quarter of the granny
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Whatever the reasons that we were going into a dynasty, they were crap. The right way to do it is to win 3 in a row and then tell the world about it.
I know how much BFers like to predict the future
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Bigfooty is a place of speculation, sometimes that’s about the past and sometimes that about the future. Given we’ve only got some pre season training vids to watch atm there’s gonna be a lot of it.
.... and we no longer have a former coach continually white-anting the new coach, and undermining relationships with the playing group.
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2010 was a complete miracle. What helped us was nobody expected us to win - it was going to be Geelong or St Kilda's year. Yet somehow we did it.
Just completely lost it with the young group, the whole coaching side fest and as you say, administration that was weak. Wrighty has studied sports management so knows how to do it. Ball's in our court for what we build. I'm a firm believer a list can have deficiencies and not even be the best in the comp every year but still go on to win flags if those around the organisation are strong leaders and set up success.
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We also don’t have an unqualified coach taking over a group that doesn’t want him
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It wasn’t, we were the best team in the comp.
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I don't know about that. Standards were different and we're not comparing apples with apples. I'm mildly confident a few from our team of the century could make the grade today, particularly if they had the training on offer. You'd see natural improvement if their only focus for work was to play footy, not play as a side hussle.
Running ability has become the focus and this has seen some strength work forgone. Players don't need to be jacked these days to make it. Will Hoskin-Elliott is not a strong man but he can run and that's been his career. In the 1980s, he wouldn't have had a career because of the tough nature (no offence to him). Old footy was a tough game where you needed a big body to play, now days it's more about speed. The labouring some blokes did would have built them up well for it but they wouldn't have been as good at running given their jobs wouldn't have allowed them to practice. Most would have had decent endurance given that was needed to work and play.
I also think a contributing factor to the athleticism is the looking at how healthcare has changed since the 1970s and 80s. More smoking, arguably more drinking, less access to nutritional advice, less physio etc. Many factors come into it.
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We had a list younger than the Baby Bombers, and almost lost a Grand Final had it not been for a miraculous bounce.
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Is that you KinderSmock ?
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From the little footy I’ve seen of the 80’s he’d be an absolute star. The game was much less contested and there were much less tackles. He’s have much more space to operate in and barely anyone would would be able to keep up with him. He’d dominate on the ground and in the air. He’d have to watch out for more cheap shots though.
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Good catch, you win the Apex36 award, the best re-incarnation detective for the month of December.
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