USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

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[Satan]

It's the vibe, the law, Mabo, the constitution.

The constitution actually is not clear on this. Clear two term limit for President but silent on VP. Would no doubt end up before SCOTUS anyway.

trump may go in 2028 as vp, and the rep pres if elected may quit giving him presidency for the 3rd time

scotus in its current form would no doubt allow it

 

[Maggie5]

Anyone who still thinks CNN is biased towards the Democrats just missed what I watched. They talked about all Harris's failings: ran a poor campaign for the Senate and only because her opponent was worse did she win; her campaign for President was so poor pulled out of the race early; the last two days count for nothing if she can't debate Trump etc etc.

Very little about the numbers who have endorsed her nor the public reaction.

They also interviewed Beshear who said a great line about Vance. "He has no convictions however his boss does have 34"

Also heard that RFK wanted to make a deal with Trump that he will pull out of election and endorse Trump but wants a job in his administration in Health.

Game on. What appeared to be a boring Presidential election has now livened up.

 

[Bluelegs]

It's the vibe, the law, Mabo, the constitution.

The constitution actually is not clear on this. Clear two term limit for President but silent on VP. Would no doubt end up before SCOTUS anyway.

I get that being a document from the 1700s the US constitution has a lot of room for interpretation but how is it that nearly 200 years later they couldn't stress test an amendment.

 

[Cyber_punk]

While he's a terrible president and leader, he's an amazing con man gotta give him that.

Where does he rank in history for amount of marks conned?

It's not just his political run either. Those "John Miller/ John Baron" recordings to this day are hilarious.

 

[BFew]

Rumour rife on the internet that Biden is either seriously ill, in a coma, near death or already dead.

 

[Satan]

I get that being a document from the 1700s the US constitution has a lot of room for interpretation but how is it that nearly 200 years later they couldn't stress test an amendment.

Maybe because we have never had a former president encourage his supporters want to hang his vice president

 

[Fart Cummings]

Im going to need some proof of life in the next 48 hours

 

[Satan]

Im going to need some proof of life in the next 48 hours

And. If you dont get it ?
Weekend at Bernies gif

 

[BFew]

Im going to need some proof of life in the next 48 hours

And forensics on the time stamp of the proof, if a picture.
Or filmed alongside the Lotto results as proof that it was not recorded.

 

[faible]

Where does he rank in history for amount of marks conned?

It's not just his political run either. Those "John Miller/ John Baron" recordings to this day are hilarious.

Remembering John Barron, Donald Trump’s ‘Spokesman’ Alter Ego

The fictitious Trump executive was the beginning of Trump's mastery of media manipulation.

www.vice.com

Somehow I'd missed this. Hilarious.

 

[Kram]

Im going to need some proof of life in the next 48 hours

Picture of him standing up holding today's newspaper?

 

[BFew]

GI Joe has been replaced with AI Joe.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Yep - again, no matter your views, Biden dropping out has energised the race. The question now - as it will be until November - is whether it's enough.

In terms of political strategy, this was optimum. Still four months left (so enough time, but cutting it close) but took away the oxygen from the assassination attempt and Republican convention. It is up to the Democrats to see if they want an open convention which could potentially wipe out all the gains made from Biden stepping away because disunity is death for a political party. They need their senior figures like Obama, Clintons etc to endorse Harris imo if they want to win.

They will go "open" but it's already over, all the big players have lined up behind Kamala.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Biden called her on the day. Trump called 5 days later because he wanted to borrow his fireman outfit to use as a prop.

And still used a jacket with the name spelt wrong.

 

[Satan]

And still used a jacket with the name spelt wrong.

Like trump playing golf next day spread by republicans a furphy

 

[BFew]

I'd be astounded if VP Harris doesn't become POTUS well before the election.
More likely in the next week from the sound of things.

 

[BFew]

They are probably going to need a good interpreter and a defibrillator if this meeting ever goes ahead.

Sad to see a Presidential transition play out this way, so close to a US Presidential Election.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/world/politics-latest-us-votes-2024-nancy-pelosi-endorses-vice-president-kamala-harris/live-coverage/f96478273fcfb69413d46dbd825e278c

'30m ago July 23, 2024

Netanyahu, Biden to meet Thursday​

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is expected to meet with US President Joe Biden on Thursday, the day after the Israeli premier delivers a major speech to the US Congress, a US official told AFP.

The date of the White House meeting had been in the air as Biden recovered in Delaware from Covid, with Israel initially reporting the leaders were to speak on Tuesday.'

 

[Jeremy Jordan]

Im going to need some proof of life in the next 48 hours

The “call in” from Biden made me think about Kamp Krusty episode, where they watch the tv set on stage of Krusty: “hi kids. Welcome to the Democratic Nomination. I’ll see you all in a few weeks. Until then, I’ve turned this over to my bestest buddy in the whole wide world…. “Kamala Harris”. I want you to treat…. “Kamala Harris” with the same respect you would give me. Now here’s…. “Kamala Harris”.

Biden supporters: ‘you pulled out Joe, how could you?’

Biden: ‘the democratic donors drove a big dump truck full of money up to my house. I’m not made of stone’

 

[Norwegian Blue]

It's the vibe, the law, Mabo, the constitution.

The constitution actually is not clear on this. Clear two term limit for President but silent on VP. Would no doubt end up before SCOTUS anyway.

Not true, the constitution is very clear: "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States". Obama can't be prez again, therefore can't be veep.

 

[swingdog]

As unlikely as the rumours are, you would think handing over the presidency now would give Harris an advantage.

 

[Seeds]

I'd be astounded if VP Harris doesn't become POTUS well before the election.
More likely in the next week from the sound of things.

From the sound of what things? Made up stuff on social media?

 

[Forward Press]

Not true, the constitution is very clear: "no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice President of the United States". Obama can't be prez again, therefore can't be veep.

I stand corrected.

Harris/Michelle Obama ticket.

 

[Forward Press]

They will go "open" but it's already over, all the big players have lined up behind Kamala.

Last I heard Barack Obama's endorsement was still pending. He will be the big fish.

Again, happy to be corrected.

 

[Seeds]

As unlikely as the rumours are, you would think handing over the presidency now would give Harris an advantage.

Huge advantage. Its weird that republicans are even pushing this line. Are they trying to make kamala seem more presidential before the election?

 

[Gough]

Huge advantage. Its weird that republicans are even pushing this line. Are they trying to make kamala seem more presidential before the election?

Flooding the zone with shit and seeing what sticks.