USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

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[Maggie5]

Yeah, I’ve seen people compare this to 1968 and Humphrey and how that result proved this one will be a disaster. But Humphrey did almost turn it around at the last moment, by distancing himself from his President and coming out against Vietnam. I think Kamala needs to do similar on Gaza with Biden.

It’s one of her two big vulnerabilities as a candidate - the other being the questions of Biden’s infirmity and who knew what and when. She’s going to face scrutiny on that at some stage (even if just as a Republican attack) and she’ll need a good response.

Both good points, the second one I hadn't considered.

Could just say she is not his doctor and then turn it back on Trump (maybe even go so far as independent medical checks)?

I am not sure he will debate her do you?

Also, her choice of VP will be interesting especially most that have been mentioned seem pretty solid and no baggage.

 

[bourbons]

Just admit you were wrong. Not that hard in such a situation

Champagne irony from you mate. Hows those masks and check-ins everywhere forever going?

 

[Crow54]

Yeah, I’ve seen people compare this to 1968 and Humphrey and how that result proved this one will be a disaster. But Humphrey did almost turn it around at the last moment, by distancing himself from his President and coming out against Vietnam. I think Kamala needs to do similar on Gaza with Biden.

It’s one of her two big vulnerabilities as a candidate - the other being the questions of Biden’s infirmity and who knew what and when. She’s going to face scrutiny on that at some stage (even if just as a Republican attack) and she’ll need a good response.

Is she likely to do that when she has a Jewish husband?

 

[Sqotty from office works]

There has been literal crying about how noble biden is. And by the people who wanted him gone.

I feel elated for the secret service bloke who has to wake him up every morning with "sir sir excuse me sir, your name is Joe Biden and you're the president of America.

 

[faible]

Is she likely to do that when she has a Jewish husband?

The US stance is decidedly pro-Israel and I doubt she draws down on that completely, but she's previously said she's for a two-state solution and was opposed to Israel invading Rafah, so she can 'soften' that pro-Israel position enough to placate the young voters I'm sure.

 

[KAYNE]

Trump without hesitation would want a debate with Harris. Harris was terrible in the Democratic primary debates and was why she withdrew so early on.

Harris struggled as she had to actually answer questions which is something she would have to do in order to win a debate. As soon as the border questions come up I worry about her ability to answer them.

 

[Royces Hart]

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The bat signal has been sent out for Stephen Miller.

 

[Randomizor]

Trump without hesitation would want a debate with Harris. Harris was terrible in the Democratic primary debates and was why she withdrew so early on.

Harris struggled as she had to actually answer questions which is something she would have to do in order to win a debate. As soon as the border questions come up I worry about her ability to answer them.

It’s not like Trump has ever directly actually answered a question, she’d be fine

 

[GreyCrow]

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Is that a real thing ?

Did I see Trumps hand up his arse the sock puppet cry baby

 

[darrenmorgan]

Trump without hesitation would want a debate with Harris. Harris was terrible in the Democratic primary debates and was why she withdrew so early on.

Harris struggled as she had to actually answer questions which is something she would have to do in order to win a debate. As soon as the border questions come up I worry about her ability to answer them.

i don't think Trump actually answered a single question in the debate with Biden.

 

[magpie_marty]

Trump without hesitation would want a debate with Harris. Harris was terrible in the Democratic primary debates and was why she withdrew so early on.

Harris struggled as she had to actually answer questions which is something she would have to do in order to win a debate. As soon as the border questions come up I worry about her ability to answer them.

Would have to be something in it for Trump to debate,
Just reading Trump want's a refund for campaign costs when running against Biden.
Such a classy person.

 

[GreyCrow]

Manchin? Thinks he is a contender? The fraud who left the party and voted against them?

The Democrats are truly stupid if he gets anywhere near the 1st 20 in line to the President roles

Even Keifer Sutherland should be in line in front of him

 

[GreyCrow]

Trump without hesitation would want a debate with Harris. Harris was terrible in the Democratic primary debates and was why she withdrew so early on.

Harris struggled as she had to actually answer questions which is something she would have to do in order to win a debate. As soon as the border questions come up I worry about her ability to answer them.

Trump would need a nappy change at 1/4 time

 

[Blue1980]

Manchin is in for a shock if he thinks he'll get close enough.

Obama is playing the diplomat. Took him a long period to actually endorse Biden in 2020.

Harris barring any real shock will be the nominee.

Manchin can get ****ed

 

[Blue1980]

Morning Joe has been all over him standing down, why would there be tears?


I just read Obama's statement and I don't have a problem him not mentioning Harris.

He worked with Biden for 8 years so think it is fair enough making it all about Biden and his achievements etc.

Will see if he supports her by going to the various states speaking on her behalf.

Morning Joe will be glowing tribute, so that’s where the tears will come from.

 

[Randomizor]

Trump almost fell asleep at the RNC and he slept through his trial. It’s time to start wondering: is 78 too old to be a nominee?

 

[Blue1980]

Russell Brand at the rep convention. The only one under 50. Just

I thought he was a centrist just asking questions.

I assume he will be at the DNC too then.

/s

 

[Randomizor]

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Imagine someone asking you where you get your information from and you have to answer “some dude on TV yelled it at me”

Who falls for this nonsense?

 

[KAYNE]

Trump would need a nappy change at 1/4 time

I've noticed in the 3 responses no one has actually said Harris would win a debate with Trump. I think this would be the worry with her as a candidate.

Can they actually just change the nomination to be Harris or do they vote on it? Feel like a few potential candidates are quiet and maybe working out the numbers before they fully endorse Harris.

 

[10571z]

Trump almost fell asleep at the RNC and he slept through his trial. It’s time to start wondering: is 78 too old to be a nominee?

Almost fell asleep at the RNC source please…

 

[Blue1980]

Yeah, I’ve seen people compare this to 1968 and Humphrey and how that result proved this one will be a disaster. But Humphrey did almost turn it around at the last moment, by distancing himself from his President and coming out against Vietnam. I think Kamala needs to do similar on Gaza with Biden.

It’s one of her two big vulnerabilities as a candidate - the other being the questions of Biden’s infirmity and who knew what and when. She’s going to face scrutiny on that at some stage (even if just as a Republican attack) and she’ll need a good response.

It’s not really comparable to 68, Bobby Kennedy was popular before he was assasinated wasn’t he?

 

[Randomizor]

I've noticed in the 3 responses no one has actually said Harris would win a debate with Trump. I think this would be the worry with her as a candidate.

Can they actually just change the nomination to be Harris or do they vote on it? Feel like a few potential candidates are quiet and maybe working out the numbers before they fully endorse Harris.

Harris would wipe the floor with him. She’d just have to say she came by electric boat and thought she saw a shark on the way, and off Trump would go into his insane ramblings.

Whitmer has already come out and said she won’t challenge Harris. That’s a big domino to fall.

 

[Blue1980]

Is she likely to do that when she has a Jewish husband?

Doesn’t mean anything. Being Jewish doesn’t mean one has to cheerlead genocide.

Not every Jewish person thinks Israel should turn Gaza into a parking lot.

 

[spinynorman]

Both good points, the second one I hadn't considered.

Could just say she is not his doctor and then turn it back on Trump (maybe even go so far as independent medical checks)?

I am not sure he will debate her do you?

Also, her choice of VP will be interesting especially most that have been mentioned seem pretty solid and no baggage.

It depends on what comes out, what traction it gets etc. It might also be that there's a feeling of "that's sorted" and things don't get much more coverage (certainly right now it feels like there's a positivity in Democrat circles that hasn't been there for a while). But most people saw Biden at the debate for 90 minutes unedited for the first time in a while and it destroyed him, so I'm not sure there's an easy answer.

I was kinda surprised Trump agreed to vote Biden, but obviously that worked out for him, in the short term at least. I do think with Biden out of the way Trump's own age will become more of a factor, and I don't think him with someone 20 years younger than him will play well.

 

[GreyCrow]

I've noticed in the 3 responses no one has actually said Harris would win a debate with Trump. I think this would be the worry with her as a candidate.

Can they actually just change the nomination to be Harris or do they vote on it? Feel like a few potential candidates are quiet and maybe working out the numbers before they fully endorse Harris.

The problem with your question as has already been answered is it wont be a debate

It will be ramblin ole Donny again sounding like Abe Simpson

Don couldnt mop the floor with a squeegee