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I wasn't arguing with you at all.Except that misses the point that was being made. That here in the West where we’ve been conditioned by capitalism (& particularly individualism rather than collective) that everyone should prioritize career & earnings over raising children.
Vance was surprised that his mother in law who is an academic would take a year sabbatical to help her daughter with the baby.
He seemed to be making a point, albeit in a very poor way that perhaps that’s a better way to do things culturally v what is the norm here.
I was saying only that I agree with that in principle.
I wasn’t supporting Vance. I wasn’t endorsing the language used. I wasn’t even commenting on the broader sociopolitical context of any of it. Just that I agree to some extent with what he was saying
I can loathe the man’s politics and what he stands for but I reserve the right to contest ideas on their merit.
I wasn't arguing with you at all.
Simply saying 'post menopausal female' is a weird way of saying 'Grandma'
Yep- agreed. You’d think the expectations are -Anyone who is a halfway decent person is better than trump. If it’s someone who has experience in these political areas-even better. Most democrats would assume, quite rightly, that the policies will by and large, turn out be reasonable. Seems not unreasonable to ‘trust’ that Harris will prove to be a way better option than trump. That’s how bad he is.Oh absolutely, on the GOP side policy finishes a distant last to vibes and culture war nonsense. Which makes Stokey & co. whining about Harris releasing policy all the funnier.
But I also wouldn't be surprised if its less of a factor among democrats this time round too.
Given they only seem to view women as breeders, it makes a lot sense.
Beavis and butthead supposedly recommended vanceDid Trump even vet Vance? It’s a new disaster every day with this weirdo…
Yes, but don't forget Thiel provided the $$$$$ and encouraged Trump to pick him and our favorite disgustingly rich man child, Musk.Beavis and butthead supposedly recommended vance
Yes he didDid Trump even vet Vance? It’s a new disaster every day with this weirdo…
Trump dislikes this.Chief this thread is redundant and needs to be merged imo.
What does, culture is stronger, even mean?I could if I wanted to argue from the POV of hunter/gatherer stage of human evolution but it’s not a hill I want to die on.
My point was, despite the awful language & implicit misogyny I actually agree culture is stronger in societies where multiple generations of families stay together and raise children.
I don’t think our individualistic, capitalist society is building a better world. In some ways yes but mental health problems are rising at a faster rate than ever & especially amongst younger people so we’re doing something wrong.
Perhaps E Shed means cultural bonds or connections, rather than just 'culture'.What does, culture is stronger, even mean?
If your culture is individualistic, the an individualistic society is a strong expression of that culture.
In a lot of places, multiple generations staying together and raising families together is a consequence of generational poverty. We are moving towards that, by the virtue of the fact young people being unable to move out of the family home, I don't see that this improves us a a society.
Perhaps E Shed means cultural bonds or connections, rather than just 'culture'.
And Elon apparently.Beavis and butthead supposedly recommended vance
I’ve always been fascinated by this neoliberal obsession with individualism and personal liberty.Indeed I do. Humans are wired by evolution for connection. There is much truth in the old saying it takes a village to raise a child.
Individualism (a marketing device of capitalism) is one of the main drivers of the epidemic of our youth mental health crisis.
Children raised with less money but more care & attention from parents & family are more likely to be well adjusted adults than the children of the wealthy raised by hired help.
Ivanka come pick your dad up. It’s time for a home
Ivanka come pick your dad up. It’s time for a home
Ivanka come pick your dad up. It’s time for a home
Ivanka come pick your dad up. It’s time for a home
I am amazed at the number of military personnel and Veterans that follow himAnyone still debating that he didn't call dead soldiers loser and suckers????
And his disdain for captured soldiers ie john mccainAnyone still debating that he didn't call dead soldiers loser and suckers????