USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[Pakenhamsaint]

Trumpism is fascism, it surely has to die. Hopefully there are enough decent republicans to pick up the pieces. Ther are sure a lot of them who have fully denounced him. It will probably take decades to erase the damage he has caused.

Trumpism will die off naturally when people aren't struggling.

 

[JB1975]

I'll take this as it doesnt matter if you go to war on a premise of WMDs being present leading to 100k lives being lost for it then to be proven false that as long as you endorse the Democrats it will all be wiped clean

So this is why you clumsily avoided my question and instead asked my opinion about a thumbs-up from old Dick.

He's a loathsome man, is Dick Cheney. Many of the Republicans who support Harris are low people. In my opinion, Harris herself is questionable.

It's a horrible state of affairs which underscores the poverty of US politics, and the conga line of conservative a-holes giving their support to Harris tells me that they recognise the radicalism of Trump.

You can answer my original question now, if you like. Thanks in advance.

 

[FruitTingles]

For me, the GOP playing the victim card after running for weeks on everyone needing to harden up just isn’t working.

 

[Captivating]

Yes, I'm quoting a particular, very recent, likely voter poll and am aware of 538, RCP which when I looked earlier today didn't have this poll yet.

RCP includes some additional Republican aligned pollsters which 538 doesn't, hence why 538 tends to favour Democrats a bit more.

Anyone who claims victory this far out is just guessing. The election is neck and neck.

 

[FruitTingles]

Trumpism will die off naturally when people aren't struggling.

Under the current system that’s pretty much never, at least in the middle of America

 

[JB1975]

Trumpism will die off naturally when people aren't struggling.

MAGA don't die. Even if you shoot its f***ing ear off it just grows right back.

Inequality in the US is horrendous and getting worse, and some nasty crunches lay ahead. It won't be easy to replace everyone's fave trashman, but the conditions for another MAGA hero from outside the system will be fertile for a long time.

 

[JB1975]

Anyone who claims victory this far out is just guessing. The election is neck and neck.

Been conversing with the dead. Kamala has this thing wrapped up.

 

[Ghost Patrol]

So Megyn Kelly dressed up as Nicolle Flint for Halloween.

 

[Young Redleg]

Because he won their last encounter and doesn't need a second match.

He got obliterated. He produced one of the most confused and panicky debate performances I've ever seen.

 

[FruitTingles]

It’s a cult

 

[ams4crows]

It’s a cult

Of course it is.

But what can any one do about it? They'll reject logic and real facts all day long and sprout something they saw on Reddit as Fact

You can't change these peoples minds. Propaganda works, it's why it's still used heavily in every country.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Lowest of the low info voters

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Anyone who claims victory this far out is just guessing. The election is neck and neck.

100% correct

this election will come down to 4-6 states

and those 4-6 states are as tight as a fish's arse right now. Impossible to call right now.

Though it's worth noting that in the last 2 elections the underdog (betting market) has won both times Trump 2016, Biden 2020. So if that holds true again Harris will win.

 

[JB1975]

Reminder of a time when Republicans could produce decent people.

 

[Aristotle Pickett]

Yes he did, think you have it mixed around. Biden was firm favourite and just won by 43k in 3 swing states razor thing margins in context of an American election.

Biden won 306 to 232 which was in line with the bookies. Final polls were 51% Biden, 43%Trump so trump got marginally more popular vote but nothing like 2016.

 

[OneGreatClub]

The dems have a track record of telling people not to believe their what they see and hear.

Everyone could see Biden's brain had turned to swiss cheese, but the dems kept telling us, don't believe what you see and hear, he's as sharp as ever. Even Kamala LIED about Biden's mental acuity. She then stabbed him in the front.

And again, don't beleive what you heard, you missed the apostrophe.

Are you believing what you are seeing and hearing from Trump?

 

[ams4crows]

Lowest of the low info voters

Why? And who convinced them too?

Did someone just take advantage of them?

When did they all register to vote if none of them ever have before?

 

[FruitTingles]

Of course it is.

But what can any one do about it? They'll reject logic and real facts all day long and sprout something they saw on Reddit as Fact

You can't change these peoples minds. Propaganda works, it's why it's still used heavily in every country.

The Left is going to have to abandon some of the terms of centerism and speak to voters grievances with real solutions.

Like a gun, the only way you take a social democratic gain from a middle class voter is ‘from their cold dead hands’

 

[Bloods86]

Anyone who claims victory this far out is just guessing. The election is neck and neck.

Yep. I wasn't claiming victory.

 

[ams4crows]

Pennsylvania Michigan Wisconsin Nevada and Georgia will decide the election.

It's been that way for awhile now. Every knows it.

 

[Bloods86]

So Megyn Kelly dressed up as Nicolle Flint for Halloween.

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Kelly must be a costume guru, all I can see is garbage in a garbage bag.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Why? And who convinced them too?

Did someone just take advantage of them?

When did they all register to vote if none of them ever have before?

Wasn’t it that Scott Pressler?
Wonder what garbage they were fed?
If minimal contact with the outside world yes very low info voters.

 

[NSWCROW]

For me, the GOP playing the victim card after running for weeks 16 years on everyone needing to harden up just isn’t working.

EFA

 

[HirdsTheWord]

Yes he did, think you have it mixed around. Biden was firm favourite and just won by 43k in 3 swing states razor thing margins in context of an American election.

Not sure about that at least the favourite bit.

Prior to postal votes being counted Biden was paying $6+ dollars to win, I don't recall Biden being a firm favourite until AFTER postal votes started being counted

 

[Captivating]

Been conversing with the dead. Kamala has this thing wrapped up.

you spoke with Joe Biden?