USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[Mick F]

Listening to those MAGA being interviewed on ABC right now and how they absolutely deny any of his failings and violent language. I get it, but gee those on here are absolutely pathetic.

Certainly they can’t think anyone believes their bullshit, and endless parroting of GOP talking points. As has been mentioned numerous times “No one on here votes in the US election. We are observers, not f’n participants.”

 

[zumahawk]

So it wasn't just a slip of the tongue by Joe.

Trump fans were already voting for Trump.

Now your turn to answer for Trump's many disgusting comments including the Liz Cheney firing squad comment.....how does that comment plus access Hollywood tape from 2016 etc etc compare to the garbage comment?

 

[zumahawk]

Oh yes, whataboutism. How predictable.

She might be embarrassing some of the time, but he is stupid all of the time. It's his constant state of being.

If embarrassing herself extends to quoting a bible passage then I think she's fine. Yes Trump's whole state of being is weird and embarrassing.

 

[Cmarsh]

Trump fans were already voting for Trump.

Now your turn to answer for Trump's many disgusting comments including the Liz Cheney firing squad comment.....how does that comment plus access Hollywood tape from 2016 etc etc compare to the garbage comment?

Fans are different from voters though. On both sides. It may come down to who is better at turning apparent fans into actual voters.

 

[Satan]

Just a minor hiccup post Roe vs Wade reversal

A Pregnant Teenager Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms

It took three ER visits and 20 hours before a hospital admitted Nevaeh Crain, 18, as her condition worsened. Doctors insisted on two ultrasounds to confirm “fetal demise.” She’s one of at least two Texas women who died under the state’s abortion ban.

www.propublica.org

 

[Crankyhawk]

But why are they unwilling to state such lofty ideals themselves when they constantly support him. Are even they slightly ashamed? Embarrassed”

Well we are the enemy to them and so they would correctly believe that we would not accept that as a motivation (because to us it’s facts not feelings, which funny enough is something republicans also say, except if it s their feelings then to hell with facts)

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Trump IS what you see and hear. I wouldn't say Trump is trying to be something he isn't. Out of all of the candidates, Trump is the most authentic.

So, a liar and a cheat.

If you’re American, and what you think your country most needs is a liar and a cheat, vote Trump?

Got it.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

This is an interesting concept. All people who support trump by virtue of their political leanings annd nothing else are not ‘normal’ people?

What does it matter?

The overwhelming fact, the fact that renders any other discussion superfluous, is that Trump is a self-declared cheat and a proven liar.

You must have read similar words from me and others on these pages many times. You seem like a decent human being. Why do you keep trying to skirt around them with plaintive concerns for the feelings of people who have decided they’re OK voting for a cheat and a liar?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Seeing as though people on here dislike cropped edited videos and misinformation, here is the full video.
He was basically calling out those in their comfortable offices sending troops to war. Hes a complete moron for calling her dumb, but he wasn’t calling for someone to be shot.
You gotta laugh at how people are twisting comments and videos on both sides of the fence. Its sad.

I totally agree. No-one hates Trump more than me, and his words were unnecessarily macho, but there’s no way he’s calling for her to be put in front of a firing squad as some have spun it.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

If trump wins the election would you support Harris refusing to certify the result?

She would absolutely be within her rights to mount whatever legal challenges she and her team consider apt. That’s how the system works.

But if - speaking totally hypothetically here of course - 61 (count ‘em - 61) of them fail, or are rejected outright, and not a single one is successful, well THEN I think it would be most inappropriate - in fact the hallmark of an irredeemable cheat - to continue to insist she won.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

I think you will find this is pretty commonplace in most presidencies. Pretending it doesn’t happen is pretty naieve.

America’s shocking record of violently interfering in the affairs of sovereign nations is without peer and deserves nothing but condemnation.

But at home? Nah, liberal democracies tend not to function on assassination of one’s opponents.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Quite the read. Worth the read if you can bear how horrific it is.
The NAR. The prophet blessing Trump as the warrior who will slaughter and trample Jezebel ( Harris, gays, women etc) in the name of God. And not just metaphorically but physically. This is what the New Apostolic Reformation are using and promising. No surprise Wallnau and other creeps keep calling Harris Jezebel.
I have posted many times about the NAR, their influence and danger. This messianic religious leader spoke over Trump at a religious leader’s event.

They are crazy but also incredibly dangerous.
Mass psychosis of these religious nutters. And Trump’s narcissistic ego laps it up. And he gets votes from gullible people taken in by this.

Yep, very troubling.

When people in power say they have god on their side, ALWAYS sound the alarm.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

As has been mentioned numerous times “No one on here votes in the US election. We are observers, not f’n participants.”

Actually I think chicago and Spearman do.

 

[zumahawk]

If trump wins the election would you support Harris refusing to certify the result?

No I wouldn't support any candidate in a democratic, fair election refusing to certify including Harris. I also wouldn't support Harris if she was a convicted felon or convicted sexual predator.

That Halloween parade having a Harris character shackled dragging behind a vehicle is revolting. How is that allowed in civilised society? FFS.

 

[adogsfan5]

I'm aware of the context. It's odd though for Trump to be saying that, if that's all he was getting at. He escaped a draft, sent troops to conflict zones as President, and took some risky decisions himself which could have escalated.

Odd or not odd, just take a look at how it’s been used over X and in the mainstream media. I know people will say meh, who cares, because of who it is.
People actually now think he’s calling for her to be executed / to be killed. It’s pretty cooked.

Here is a perfect example, two articles right on top of each other. One makes sense, the other is ridiculous.

 

[liz]

He may not be aware that the mail ballots are counted after those made on election day - the early processing of mail-in ballots in fact being illegali. Fwits, seeking to undermine confidence in Pennsylvania’s results, continue to exploit this, I suppose which camp he fits into depends on whether he lacks intellect or character. The ‘less generous’ may ascribe him to be amongst the DSCs.

I believe it actually varies from state to state. Some states start counting postal votes early on election day while others wait until the polls have closed.

Ohio, for example, is a state that starts counting them early. Last time, the early results from Ohio showed Biden with a sizeable lead (that had come from postal votes) that was then engulfed by the Trump votes as counting progressed. You might recall Trump, into the night on election day, insisting that the voting should stop in some states but must continue in others.