USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[spinynorman]

This...ain't a great answer.

 

[CD Xbow]

You are wasting your time.

It's straight outta the ol' socialists playbook - one rule for thee and another rule for me.

The Trump train is gathering unstoppable momentum while his haters are running late and don't have a ticket.

Enjoy the ride to victory!

I am going to enjoy riding the Blue wave as it washes away Trump and all the other filth.

 

[carltonchelsea]

You are wasting your time.

It's straight outta the ol' socialists playbook - one rule for thee and another rule for me.

The Trump train is gathering unstoppable momentum while his haters are running late and don't have a ticket.

Enjoy the ride to victory!

Trump's full answer:

“Well, I would do that, and we’re sitting down, and I was, somebody, we had Senator Marco Rubio, and my daughter Ivanka was so impactful on that issue. It’s a very important issue. But I think when you talk about the kind of numbers that I’m talking about, that, because, look, child care is child care is. It’s, couldn’t, you know, there’s something, you have to have it. In this country you have to have it.”

“But when you talk about those numbers compared to the kind of numbers that I’m talking about by taxing foreign nations at levels that they’re not used to — but they’ll get used to it very quickly – and it’s not gonna stop them from doing business with us, but they’ll have a very substantial tax when they send product into our country. Those numbers are so much bigger than any numbers that we’re talking about, including child care, that it’s going to take care."

“We’re gonna have — I, I look forward to having no deficits within a fairly short period of time, coupled with the reductions that I told you about on waste and fraud and all of the other things that are going on in our country, because I have to stay with child care. I want to stay with child care, but those numbers are small relative to the kind of economic numbers that I’m talking about, including growth, but growth also headed up by what the plan is that I just, that I just told you about."

“We’re gonna be taking in trillions of dollars, and as much as child care is talked about as being expensive, it’s relatively speaking not very expensive compared to the kind of numbers we’ll be taking in. We’re going to make this into an incredible country that can afford to take care of its people, and then we’ll worry about the rest of the world. Let’s help other people. But we’re going to take care of our country first. This is about America first. It’s about Make America Great Again. We have to do it because right now we’re a failing nation, so we’ll take care of it.”

 

[Swan4Life]

This...ain't a great answer.

It's a complete non-answer.

A cackling, clueless word salad. Not a shred of anything resembling any sort of serious policy detail here or in the other of her umpteen hours of pointless TV appearances to date.

Someone recently labelled her "the queen of whine". It's difficult to argue with that label.

She is a carbon copy of our Albo - a waffling fake who is chronically unqualified, yet has managed to "pull a Bradbury" to the top of the political hierarchy.

It truly beggars belief how someone like this is the best the Dems can put forward as a presidential candidate.

 

[carltonchelsea]

This...ain't a great answer.

No, it’s actually the perfect answer.
She is a woman, a woman of colour, one that has experience in all three executive branches of the U.S Government.
Neither of the other two have had that experience!
Simples!

 

[Royces Hart]

It's a complete non-answer.

A cackling, clueless word salad. Not a shred of anything resembling any sort of serious policy detail here or in the other of her umpteen hours of pointless TV appearances to date.

Someone recently labelled her "the queen of whine". It's difficult to argue with that label.

She is a carbon copy of our Albo - a waffling fake who is chronically unqualified, yet has managed to "pull a Bradbury" to the top of the political hierarchy.

It truly beggars belief how someone like this is the best the Dems can put forward as a presidential candidate.

You’re divorced, aren’t you?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Careful. This is what I said and was called a Trumper.

You and spinynorman aren't Trumpers per se, but both of you absolutely revel in repeatedly posting "tut, tut Democrats" posts, gleefully pointing at anything that is even a slightly negative reflection on the Democrats and "warning" that they are in danger of losing the election.

I have no doubt that both of you are secretly hoping for a Trump win to vindicate your oft-stated views.

 

[Maggie5]

This...ain't a great answer.

It is a late night talk show that sends people up, lots of one liners and laughs.

Lots of cheers for, 'I am not Donald Trump'.

You actually think people turn in to the show for serious policy discussion?

I actually thought she then went too serious.

 

[Seeds]

That is what I don't get.

Put down Harris for every little thing: not enough media, repeating Biden talking points, her laugh, employing Biden's staff, won't go on FOX etc. etc. yet Trump gets a free pass on his age, psychologically unfit, felon, rapist, habitual liar, conman, etc etc.

Then see themselves as objective posters, too funny.

She aint being compared to trump. She is being compared to the best possible theoretical candidate that could beat trump.

At the moment she is at best tied with trump. Thats not good enough. She should be smashing him.

 

[Satan]

She aint being compared to trump. She is being compared to the best possible theoretical candidate that could beat trump.

At the moment she is at best tied with trump. Thats not good enough. She should be smashing him.

Not when he has a cult who listens to his trash

 

[Seeds]

It's a complete non-answer.

A cackling, clueless word salad. Not a shred of anything resembling any sort of serious policy detail here or in the other of her umpteen hours of pointless TV appearances to date.

Someone recently labelled her "the queen of whine". It's difficult to argue with that label.

She is a carbon copy of our Albo - a waffling fake who is chronically unqualified, yet has managed to "pull a Bradbury" to the top of the political hierarchy.

It truly beggars belief how someone like this is the best the Dems can put forward as a presidential candidate.

You cant accuse harris of word salads and then support trump whos word salads are so bad it is baffling he can even function.

 

[Maggie5]

You and spinynorman aren't Trumpers per se, but both of you absolutely revel in repeatedly posting "tut, tut Democrats" posts, gleefully pointing at anything that is even a slightly negative reflection on the Democrats and "warning" that they are in danger of losing the election.

I have no doubt that both of you are secretly hoping for a Trump win to vindicate your oft-stated views.

I have wanted to post that so many times.

I actually don't have any problems others pointing out legitimate criticisms about the Dems/Harris and when I see something like that posted always google and try to read more about it.

I like Harris and think that she is walking a tight line not divorcing herself from Biden and his administration (he still has a lot of followers), pushing her own policies and taking all the trash talk from Trump.

Yet Trump who is an appalling excuse for a human being doesn't receive much, any? criticism.
'Oh well that's just Trump' seems to be the best we get.

Some objectivity would be good if truly neutral, and if not why not come out?

 

[Seeds]

Not when he has a cult who listens to his trash

The cult is only 30 percent of voters.

 

[Maggie5]

She aint being compared to trump.

Are your serious, of course voters are comparing.

 

[Satan]

The cult is only 30 percent of voters.

Not all supporters are cult members

 

[Maggie5]

The cult is only 30 percent of voters.

Where did you get that from?

What is the % of rusted on Republican voters say like a Nikki Haley that is voting for him?

 

[Swan4Life]

You cant accuse harris of word salads and then support trump whos word salads are so bad it is baffling he can even function.

To suggest that Kommola isn't at least a few miles behind Trump when it comes to coherent and articulate delivery and government policy detail is truly laughable.

Your blinkered bias is showing.

 

[troybe]

To suggest that Kommola isn't at least a few miles behind Trump when it comes to coherent and articulate delivery and government policy detail is truly laughable.

Your blinkered bias is showing.

Aren’t we still waiting in anticipation for Trumps Health policy that was 2 weeks away 7 years ago?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

To suggest that Kommola isn't at least a few miles behind Trump when it comes to coherent and articulate delivery and government policy detail is truly laughable.

Your blinkered bias is showing.

Even Melania knows this is a ridiculous statement.

And I apologise for not thinking up a brilliantly clever way of saying Melania's name to show how much I understand US politics.

 

[Bloods86]

To suggest that Kommola isn't at least a few miles behind Trump when it comes to coherent and articulate delivery and government policy detail is truly laughable.

Your blinkered bias is showing.

You really are that far gone hey.

What I don't understand is why you even bother trying on all these outright falsehoods.

Just own the fact that you like the authoritarian in the race, and his pro corporate, anti worker policies and positions, his pride in belittling knowledge, his fearmongering and scapegoating of minorities etc.

Just own it. You won't even have to pretend about things like his incoherency and temperament anymore, you won't have to selectively ignore posts that debunk you at every turn. We already see through it all anyway.

 

[bourbons]

Trump fans the majority question the real things going in on this world. Some do talk rubbish like QaNon but others point out the dirty things swept under the rug and question the things told to us by the world.

Qanon too far eh, interesting

 

[bourbons]

To suggest that Kommola isn't at least a few miles behind Trump when it comes to coherent and articulate delivery and government policy detail is truly laughable.

Your blinkered bias is showing.

Ok mate, you had a good run. Just got a little bit too cute here.

Well played on the long con parody account, you got us

 

[DaTBird187]

You think the media give trump a better run than Harris?

In relation to what he says, does, is and will be.....absolutely.

How the media don't brutally pick apart every idiotic thing he says at rallies, writes on X, does in the media, boggles the mind. They all just sit there and go "Oh that's just Trump", like he gets a free pass for being an arseh*le.

In any civilised country outside of the U.S, someone like Trump would never have gotten within a thousand miles of running a country, yet here we are at a 50-50 split.

 

[spinynorman]

No, it’s actually the perfect answer.
She is a woman, a woman of colour, one that has experience in all three executive branches of the U.S Government.
Neither of the other two have had that experience!
Simples!

That means nothing to a Latin single mother working three minimum wage jobs to keep food on the table? What change will there be for ordinary people, is the clear question.

You and spinynorman aren't Trumpers per se, but both of you absolutely revel in repeatedly posting "tut, tut Democrats" posts, gleefully pointing at anything that is even a slightly negative reflection on the Democrats and "warning" that they are in danger of losing the election.

I have no doubt that both of you are secretly hoping for a Trump win to vindicate your oft-stated views.

I've become increasingly convinced that no change is possible until Trump is done, so no, I really want him to finally go away. 2016 might as well be the true end of history, because since then there's a demand for full throated support of vacuousness because the alternative is too dangerous. Until we can get over that some people mightn't be deferential to the Democratic leadership, including 98% of people posting here who don't even vote, then we're going to be stuck chastising those unenthusiastic about the direction of the world.

I have wanted to post that so many times.

I actually don't have any problems others pointing out legitimate criticisms about the Dems/Harris and when I see something like that posted always google and try to read more about it.

I've seen you post that you're fine with legitimate criticisms about the Dems/Harris than you actually accept and agree with legitimate criticisms about the Dems/Harris.

Yet Trump who is an appalling excuse for a human being doesn't receive much, any? criticism.
'Oh well that's just Trump' seems to be the best we get.

Kinda? We pretty much know what he is at this point, it's hard to come up with unique ways to describe his vileness (especially when I do see a new surprising low, only to find there's 50 other posters making that same post already).

Some objectivity would be good if truly neutral, and if not why not come out?

I've never said I was neutral or objective, and I don't think pjcrows has either. I think it's pretty apparent we're both well to the left of Kamala (and therefore Trump also). That's more FireKrakouer, whose perspective is different again.

 

[pjcrows]

You and spinynorman aren't Trumpers per se, but both of you absolutely revel in repeatedly posting "tut, tut Democrats" posts, gleefully pointing at anything that is even a slightly negative reflection on the Democrats and "warning" that they are in danger of losing the election.

I have no doubt that both of you are secretly hoping for a Trump win to vindicate your oft-stated views.

You're wrong, but that's fine.