USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[Blue1980]

Onya Buzz. So much for the concept that only low info rednecks support Trump!

Apollo 11 moonwalker Buzz Aldrin endorses Trump for president

'Under President Trump's first term, America saw a revitalized interest in space. His administration reignited national efforts to get back to the moon, and push on to Mars — programs that continue today.'

www.space.com

Pfft I only take notice of winners, not runners up

 

[Blue1980]

It can feel that way if you don't have a response.

“How dare you debunk my right wing talking point which I believed which you have proven to be BS, so mean. We must be more civil!”

 

[Blue1980]

Not to mention that a lot of Trump's 2020 cases were put before Trump appointed Judges, who all universally ruled they were so lacking in substance they didn't even meet the criteria for trial.

Trump uses that in itself as a reason that it’s a conspiracy.

 

[Blue1980]

I mean to be fair, the economy (and most metrics used to evaluate) isn't designed to advantage the lower and middle classes.

So people are right to be unhappy.

But the arguments used about Trump being better, or even just as good, are hilariously shallow and bankrupt.

People mistake "things that happened during a presidency" for "things that happened because of a presidency" all the time.

They also defer to global factors from say Trump's final year in office with debt increases and GDP (this is a fair point), but throw that principle out the window when talking about inflation (a global issue) under Biden/Harris.

As I always say, the same people blaming Biden and the Dems for Ukraine invasion and Oct 7, may as well blame Trump for Covid escaping a lab or whatever in Wuhan.

Like are all world events the fault of the sitting US president?

The way they respond to them is what they should be judged on.

In the Dems case I have no issue supporting Ukraine, and hate them cheerleading Israel.

Trump handled the covid crisis disastrously.

You are right the Dems don’t do enough to help working/middle class, but GOP have put the bar so low in that regard to be mining to the core of the earth, so even Dems not getting what they say what they will get done is infinitely better.

I’d like the GOP to be better, it would force the Dems to lift their game.

 

[liz]

When Donny loses, this will be what Rudy goes to the supreme court with as exhibit 1.

If Rudy is going to court it will either be as a defendant or carrying the boxes since he’s lost his licence to practice law.

 

[Carringbush2010]

This is fanciful.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

The USA needs Harris to win, but if there are people out there who genuinely believe she will do anything of note to move the needle on the situation in the Middle East, I've got a monorail to sell them.

There's a high possiblity that if she wins the US will start taking steps to reign in Bibi.

At the moment Bibi has a free reign because he could escalate dramatically (beyond what he's doing now) and throw the election into chaos, but once Harris is in for four years, she can take steps now because there's no chance for Trump to get in and save his mate Bibi.

Not saying it's much good for the Palestinian people now.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Classic leftist projection.

There’s a reason why conservatives have been saying “too big to rig” for 2024. Trump was leading the election in 2020 when counting stopped in the middle of the night in a bunch of swing states and then when it resumed she was suddenly in front.

We all know the Dems stuff ballots and use mail in voting to cheat.

Man, the GOP should probably take this to court then... Should be a slam dunk to win you'd imagine.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Wow

 

[adogsfan5]

Common man, if you’re on the maga train this is what you need to get in on!

No thanks mate. Just because I enjoy reading posts from both sides of the fence, doesn’t make me part of MAGA.

 

[OneGreatClub]

Trump says he will be women’s protector ‘whether they like it or not.’


Well he has had plenty of practice of doing things to them whether they like it or not.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Pfft I only take notice of winners, not runners up

 

[OneGreatClub]

A hundred new GOP voting lawsuits and there will be more and more stuff like this happening everywhere is the little secret Trump is alluding to.
Trump doesn’t understand that no means no.
Actually that would be a good Harris campaign slogan.

 

[Baldur]

As I always say, the same people blaming Biden and the Dems for Ukraine invasion and Oct 7, may as well blame Trump for Covid escaping a lab or whatever in Wuhan.

Like are all world events the fault of the sitting US president?

The way they respond to them is what they should be judged on.

In the Dems case I have no issue supporting Ukraine, and hate them cheerleading Israel.

Trump handled the covid crisis disastrously.

You are right the Dems don’t do enough to help working/middle class, but GOP have put the bar so low in that regard to be mining to the core of the earth, so even Dems not getting what they say what they will get done is infinitely better.

I’d like the GOP to be better, it would force the Dems to lift their game.

Regarding the Ukraine invasion, I do not blame Biden, it is all on Putin. But I do wonder if Putin could have been deterred by a stronger US president. The US knew it was going to happen.

As for Oct 7, even Shin Bet was unaware it was going to happen, I fail to see how any US president could have deterred it.

 

[ReidBetweenTheLines]

Oh look, just another glitch in the system. It only ever favours Democrats these glitches nothing to see here! Just enough of a glitch to win a swing state and possibly the election.

 

[King Patty]

Realise, being a twitter post this will upset the resident idiot who still gets his news and opinions from the home delivered print edition of the Herald Sun.

most of the people in this thread would be getting news from x given following the US election?
what are the other main sources of free information

 

[adogsfan5]

Oh look, just another glitch in the system. It only ever favours Democrats these glitches nothing to see here! Just enough of a glitch to win a swing state and possibly the election.

 

[Bloods86]

Regarding the Ukraine invasion, I do not blame Biden, it is all on Putin. But I do wonder if Putin could have been deterred by a stronger US president. The US knew it was going to happen.

As for Oct 7, even Shin Bet was unaware it was going to happen, I fail to see how any US president could have deterred it.

Not sure what Biden/Harris could have done to thwart Putin's unprovoked (continued) invasion in 2022, because anything short of stating they would directly intervene would not have worked.

The same people who tout Trump's unpredictability (to do what?) and strength as to why Putin didn't continue the invasion as much, are the types screaming about escalation any time new weapons arrive or rules of engagement change.

 

[Seeds]

This is fanciful.

No it isnt. You simply assume it is because of what you know.

For those of us who actually study political history trump so far has been on a textbook pathway consistent with overthrowing a democracy from within.

 

[Spearman]

You don’t get out much if you haven’t heard that one.

Trolls don't store information. They live in the moment with whatever contrary take they can muster or regurgitate.

 

[Nikita Blue]

A hundred new GOP voting lawsuits and there will be more and more stuff like this happening everywhere is the little secret Trump is alluding to.
Trump doesn’t understand that no means no.
Actually that would be a good Harris campaign slogan.

It's going to be a long week.

 

[Spearman]

How would he make it worse?

Are you saying Trump is going to recind a good law just put in place via executive order like Biden did with Trump's border policies?

something like the pandemic response playbook?

 

[ReidBetweenTheLines]

I guess that Puerto Rico joke comedian Tony Hinchcliffe made didn’t backfire like libs thought it would! Everything’s coming up Trumps!

Dems can have their celebrity endorsements. We will take the people that matter.

 

[campbell]

Trump says he will be women’s protector ‘whether they like it or not.’


Well he has had plenty of practice of doing things to them whether they like it or not.

Coercive control much.

naaasty. surely it is past your jail time old man.

 

[King Patty]

Do celebrities still have massive pull on voters?

I think getting Taylor swift to publicly endorse Harris likely helped the most.


Democrats
Cuban, Swift, Stiller, Oprah, Beyonce, Jay z, Usher, Eminem

Republicans
Musk, Mel Gibson, Hulk Hogan, Roseanne Barr,