USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

[Bloods86]

There will be no nationwide abortion ban. This is again, just fantasy. He has no control over that legislation even if he wanted to do it. Which he doesn’t.

All the other bullet points are more or less deranged lunacy that have no bearing on reality. None of those events will happen.

Deranged lunacy hey, when most of the points are promises or at least thought bubbles to come from Trump or his campaign.

 

[MPMonkeys]

Interesting you mention more hawkish on foreign affairs, as many trump supporters think he is a man of peace.

I agree with your take on him re foreign affairs too, not that I like the Dems foreign policy.

Dems have actually created a lot of jobs in their term, the blanket tariff thing seems totally brain dead to me.

My feeling is Trump believes the best form of defense is attack. So be aggressive in order to attain peace.

That is a debate worth having. Not this other crap.

 

[Nikita Blue]

No, that is not my standard.

People on here think Trump is the anti-Christ. It’s completely ridiculous. Some of the predictions are just devoid of reality and we have an actual use case between 2016 and 2020 to compare to.

So you think nothing has changed since then? Oh I don't know maybe something like the make-up of the Supreme Court.

 

[MPMonkeys]

Did I claim Trump called her "the antichrist"? No.

I'm just pointing out that the thing you accuse us of as being ridiculous, was actually said at a Trump rally about his opponent and I don't think he's rushed to correct it.

Who cares? I’m sure there were lots of things said by individual people. That does not equate to him implementing every thought bubble by anyone who goes to his rally.

I’m equally sure that someone at a Harris rally hopes someone kills Trump before the election. That does not mean Harris wants Trump killed.

 

[MPMonkeys]

So you think nothing has changed since then? Oh I don't know maybe something like the make-up of the Supreme Court.

So you want to overthrow the Suoreme Court?
Isn’t that a threat to democracy?

 

[Bloods86]

And how were they going to over throw the election in real terms?
I’d love you to explain how it was going to happen. Some bloke with horns on his head carrying a pocket knife was suddenly going to take over the entire US armed forces and impose martial law.

Deranged nonsense.

This is a fault on both sides, but people run straight to Jan 6 when talking about Trump's attempts to fraudulently overturn the election. Forgetting the fake elector schemes, and intimidation of election and DOJ officials, his VP etc.

I think you have very low standards.

It's no biggie for one candidate/side to advocate for deranged lunacy, or attempt to fraudulently overturn an election, as long as they are unlikely to succeed.

Those are people who it's fine to have in government... pathetic.

 

[MPMonkeys]

This is a fault on both sides, but people run straight to Jan 6 when talking about Trump's attempts to fraudulently overturn the election. Forgetting the fake elector schemes, and intimidation of election and DOJ officials, his VP etc.

I think you have very low standards.

It's no biggie for one candidate/side to advocate for deranged lunacy, or attempt to fraudulently overturn an election, as long as they are unlikely to succeed.

Those are people who it's fine to have in government... pathetic.

All just tin foil hat conspiracy theories.

The reality is nothing happened of any consequence. Biden was elected and served as President. End of story.

 

[Crankyhawk]

The safe place to express hatred… Where is the unsafe place to express hatred?

In the street where it could lead to a physical fight?

 

[Bloods86]

Same as 2016 to 2020.

Relatively peaceful, more tariffs imposed to get US manufacturing going and more hawkish on foreign affairs. Nothing that dramatic.

What do you mean "get US manufacturing going"?

Manufacturing jobs are growing faster than under Trump's 1st term. Manufacturing investment is booming.

 

[Blue1980]

All just tin foil hat conspiracy theories.

The reality is nothing happened of any consequence. Biden was elected and served as President. End of story.

So your idea is if an attempted coup isn’t successful it should be ignored.

That’s batshit insane.

 

[Crankyhawk]

My coping mechanism is hoping that if the Orange Fascist wins it might make a US-China-Australia war less likely.

My suggestion for a coping mechanism- place a sizeable bet (nothing you can’t lose) on trump with the idea you are either happy he is out and all it cost you was money you were able to lose or you get some consolation dollars

 

[Nikita Blue]

So you want to overthrow the Suoreme Court?
Isn’t that a threat to democracy?

The Supreme Court is a threat to democracy.

The Republican Supreme Court just blessed an illegal voter purge

This is the latest in a string of favors this Court has done for the Republican Party.

www.vox.com

But my point was saying Trump will not go full dictator because he didn't do it last time doesn't take in to account how circumstances have changed.

 

[Randomizor]

Just a reminder that some people see this Oompa-Loompa as an all knowing god.

 

[Bloods86]

Who cares? I’m sure there were lots of things said by individual people. That does not equate to him implementing every thought bubble by anyone who goes to his rally.

I’m equally sure that someone at a Harris rally hopes someone kills Trump before the election. That does not mean Harris wants Trump killed.

You brought up "the antichrist" insult as something ridiculous we're saying, not that I can recall it being used.

So I just thought I'd bring up a recent use.

 

[Bloods86]

So you want to overthrow the Suoreme Court?
Isn’t that a threat to democracy?

Yes, that's the logical response to the content of the post you're replying to.

Calm down mate.

 

[Bloods86]

All just tin foil hat conspiracy theories.

The reality is nothing happened of any consequence. Biden was elected and served as President. End of story.

None of it is conspiracy. But any pretence you had of being reasonable is shot with that blanket dismissal.

 

[Shuestar13]

Are you gonna abandon this account too when no proof of fraud eventuates?

Curiously, I think he still posts on our board with the old account. It’s all quite odd

 

[ReidBetweenTheLines]

Are you gonna abandon this account too when no proof of fraud eventuates?

Didn’t abandon anything. Been posting on Bigfooty since 2004.

 

[FireKrakouer]

And we're back to "Trump is literally Hitler". Like he somehow just forgot to be a nazi in his first 4 years as POTUS. Get a grip, you fear-addicted Helen Lovejoys!

 

[Gough]

In the street where it could lead to a physical fight?

Closest I ever got to that was September 11 when I suggested to someone that post war American foreign policy might have had something to do with it, that seemed unthinkable to him and he invited me outside to discuss it.

 

[Blue1980]

And we're back to "Trump is literally Hitler". Like he somehow just forgot to be a nazi in his first 4 years as POTUS. Get a grip, you fear-addicted Helen Lovejoys!

As I said he may merely be Viktor Orban.

 

[Royces Hart]

Didn’t abandon anything. Been posting on Bigfooty since 2004.

Just decided you didn’t like Elliot Yeo anymore?

 

[Blue1980]

Just decided you didn’t like Elliot Yeo anymore?

I look forward to his Matt Owies inspired username after this election cycle

 

[Satan]

As I said he may merely be Viktor Orban.

 

[Seeds]

And we're back to "Trump is literally Hitler". Like he somehow just forgot to be a nazi in his first 4 years as POTUS. Get a grip, you fear-addicted Helen Lovejoys!

Um have you not been paying attention. His own deeply conservative chief of staff in those first four years came out and said he was a facist. He might not be hitler but he may very well be another putin and erdogen in the making.

The rhinos, supreme court, public servants and military stopped trumps fascist views in his first term.

The rhinos are now gone, he now controls the supreme court and he plans on kicking out most of the public service and replacing them with maga people. This will be a very different four years.

Are you morally ok with his plans to deport 20 plus million immigrants?