USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

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Claiming the economy was the best in the history of the country surely can’t be true..
Most likely (I'm guessing cbf checking) equating it to the stock market all time highs?

Not a great indicator of the economy (terrible in fact) but he might be right about the stock market part if that's what he means?
 
Yeah.... God old Vldimir Putin, Leader of the free world. lol
Not sure if you're joking along with me or being sarcastic. Good old text based communication! But what I was getting at is the fact that Russia has elections and their citizens have choice and freedom... until you don't agree with the authority.
 

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Alot of claims of lies, but not an example. For those that didn't watch it, what was a couple specific lies?
I only watched a few bits, but:

- he repeated his claims of fraud, stolen election etc

- said he handed Biden a great economy

- said Biden caused inflation, a global issue

- said the military hated Biden, loved him, when at least at the last election, Biden led polling among service members

- tried to paint Democrats and Biden as supporting infanticide
 
What's with the Gavin Newsom lovefest?

California is a failed state shithole
Whilst the problems of California are often over-exaggerated by conservatives, Newsom is a good talker and presents himself well. That seems to matter more to voters right now than records in office (rightly or wrongly).
 
Absolute disaster, that the choice is between these two! Almost unbelievable that the Democrats actually believe Joe Biden should run again, the man is on deaths door, should be in hospice and the other guy is a criminal and serial liar

Is there literally no one in the country between the ages of 35 and 55 that is capable of running the country?
 
Absolute disaster, that the choice is between these two! Almost unbelievable that the Democrats actually believe Joe Biden should run again, the man is on deaths door, should be in hospice and the other guy is a criminal and serial liar

Is there literally no one in the country between the ages of 35 and 55 that is capable of running the country?
"GREATEST COUNTRY ON EARTH" they claim

If the yanks weren't so universally arrogant about that it wouldn't be so bloody funny
 

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Absolute disaster, that the choice is between these two! Almost unbelievable that the Democrats actually believe Joe Biden should run again, the man is on deaths door, should be in hospice and the other guy is a criminal and serial liar

Is there literally no one in the country between the ages of 35 and 55 that is capable of running the country?
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Absolute disaster, that the choice is between these two! Almost unbelievable that the Democrats actually believe Joe Biden should run again, the man is on deaths door, should be in hospice and the other guy is a criminal and serial liar

Is there literally no one in the country between the ages of 35 and 55 that is capable of running the country?
Aussies are apathetic when it comes to voting and poitics but even we'd give it the WTF !!
 
Absolute disaster, that the choice is between these two! Almost unbelievable that the Democrats actually believe Joe Biden should run again, the man is on deaths door, should be in hospice and the other guy is a criminal and serial liar

Is there literally no one in the country between the ages of 35 and 55 that is capable of running the country?
Mate.... my Standards isnt that high. Surely there is someone in a Population of 300 odd million, there is at least one person aged between 56-64 that is good enough to last 2 terms or even bloody one 4 year term.


Again.... This time next year we will have the Australian federal election.

Anthony Albanese is only 61 or 62 years old now. Despite his age, He is like a Spring chicken wise compared to these 2 blokes in Biden and Trump.

Peter Dutton is born in November 18th , 1970. He is only 53 or 54 years old. Again, Trump and Biden are pushing 80 year old and Duttons age gap between those 2 is like a gernerational gap.
 
Absolute disaster, that the choice is between these two! Almost unbelievable that the Democrats actually believe Joe Biden should run again, the man is on deaths door, should be in hospice and the other guy is a criminal and serial liar

Is there literally no one in the country between the ages of 35 and 55 that is capable of running the country?
There is, but no one wants to go up against trump. You will have your reputation tarnished whether or not you deserve it if you go against trump.
 
ICBF to research but those numbers for NATO from Trump didn't sound right, billions and tens of billions or whatever he was yapping about. And his simplified explanation of who was paying for what IIRC was also wrong.

I think I heard him state he didn't say 'good people on both sides' after the tiki torch nazi parade.

I didn't last too long as it is a working day. Biden was for sure not performing well. The transcript will look much better than the video. He looked like a kid trying to remember the speech he memorized, and everything was slowed down way too far. Terrible look and Fox etal are going to gleefully play it up over and over; without providing any fact checking about any of the debate.

I've thought for a while now that the convention will be the critical juncture. They stay with Biden/Harris or use it make a change and get momentum. God I hope they allow one of the young guns to make a play and win a floor vote or something. Harris, I don't think has the x factor to overcome the GOP/Fox/MAGA machine. If the DNC try to stage manage something stupid then it is truly all over. The repercussions of another Trump presidency will at minimum be chaotic. Worst case will be horrendous even for the nuffies here, far from US shores.

The Dems will need a major positive after this.
 
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Might have been good to swing that plan into action 6 months ago like ummm practically everyone was telling them to :drunk:

Nup, they've hitched their wagons to Biden. Dems should go down like a sinking ship for that alone.
 
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