USA 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris

[Chief]

Continued in Part 2

USA - 2024 US Presidential Election: Trump vs Harris (pt II)

The debate is going to be meaningless - they are all just soundbyte farms for each side to use against one another. The attention span of the swinging voter is shorter and shorter (and each side is rusted on in their support). This is but a spectacle rather than substance.

www.bigfooty.com

 

[Sydney Kicker]

It's ok everyone. Tariffs are so amazing I can't believe we don't impose them on everything and make them really big...

Global 10% Tariffs on U.S. Imports Would Raise Incomes and Pay for Large Income Tax Cuts for Lower/Middle Class - Coalition For A Prosperous America

A 10% “universal” tariff on all U.S. imports, combined with a schedule of income tax cuts would generate economic growth of $728 billion and 2.8 million additional jobs, according to the CPA economic model of the U.S. economy.

prosperousamerica.org

Isn't it fortunate that not one country is going to retaliate with tariffs of their own on US produced goods and the world will continue to buy stuff "made in the USA". Even when goods made in the USA go up in price because all the overseas stuff that goes into their manufacture costs more.

 

[Cooldude]

 

[GreyCrow]

Looks like the people with money and power weren't impressed by his performance judging by the sharp drop at the opening this morning.

Nobody wants to be left holding shares in his money laundering operation if he doesn't win.
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Looks like another plane crash on 9/11

 

[Mick F]

For Trump, a policy is just a slogan telling people what they want to hear, with absolutely no actual plan to do it.

Its like Brexit, where Boris had a policy to replace deals with the EU, with deals with other countries, that were better, but when asked how they were going to do this, the only thing they had was, they were going to negotiate really really hard and get really really good deals. Thats what Brexiters wanted to hear, but its not a policy, its a vague aspiration, with no clue how to do it.

Thats Trump in a nutshell, he finds out what you want, then says he is going to get it for you. But that's not a policy, its not even a vague intention, he isn't even going to try, and wouldn't know how even if he did.

His only kept promise was permanent tax cuts for the rich.

And the tax cut was delivered by Ryan and McConnell. First Step Act a bipartisan initiative that Kushner convinced him to sign.

 

[iBeng]

...He thinks people take News Max seriously?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

It is hard to gauge if he is winning or not.....

Mainly because I dont understand the Trump voter.

If this was in Aus or any other country, it would be listed as a comedy show, not news.

I understand the deep sense of grievance.

FMD capitalism has ****ed us all over and in America, which is falling to bits before our eyes, capitalism has a turbocharger attached, just to make sure every one gets well ****ed over.

What I don’t understand is why anyone would think the solution lies with a character straight out of pro wrestling.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Another Trump acolyte from Faux

LOL “Marxist”

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Swift?

Not many at all.

My feeling is that the celebrity endorsements mean a lot less than people think they will.

Hillary had about 400,000 celebrity endorsements and it didn’t do her much good – a lot of average Americans don’t like being told what to do by rich Hollywood / music industry types.

Might help a bit with a few young first time voters but a lot of the ones who might be influenced would be in the Harris camp already.

Having said all that I think the timing of her announcement might be tactically important . . . it means that a bit more of the post debate commentary will focus of Harris and the Democrats and make it harder for the Republicans to do damage control.

There’s celebrities, and then there’s Taylor Swift.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

His only kept promise was permanent tax cuts for the rich.

You’re forgetting the big one, his promise to evanjellyfish Christians to stack the Supreme Court and overturn Roe Vs Wade.

 

[Nikita Blue]

Another Trump acolyte from Faux


#sobrave
If you think russian cyber attack , wait for swifties to cyber attack levin

They have caused ticketmaster grief

The Justice Department wants to 'break up Live Nation.' Taylor Swift fans are ready for it.

Frustration over the ticketing company began to boil over in late 2022 as fans complained about overloaded presale queues for the domestic leg of Swift’s 2023 "Eras Tour."

www.nbcnews.com

Dare I say it. He needs to calm down.

 

[FireKrakouer]

There’s celebrities, and then there’s Taylor Swift.

And then there's everyone's favourite bf poster (I hope!) FK.

The debate moved me from 60/40 in Kamalas favour to now 70/30 but the research and number crunching continues. Plus I would hate to overshadow Taytay's moment in the spotlight by announcing my endorsement within 24 hours of hers.

 

[Nikita Blue]

 

[Gough]

You’re forgetting the big one, his promise to evanjellyfish Christians to stack the Supreme Court and overturn Roe Vs Wade.

That may turn out to be the Republicans greatest error. Abortion was hugely potent as a calling cry to rally the base but actually overturning RvW has them losing support in a way they just didn't imagine it would and turned it into an even bigger issue.

 

[Satan]

Aimed at swifties mothers

 

[Saint]

That may turn out to be the Republicans greatest error. Abortion was hugely potent as a calling cry to rally the base but actually overturning RvW has them losing support in a way they just didn't imagine it would and turned it into an even bigger issue.

The problem is on the ground. 90% of states are implementing reasonable abortion controls.

10% of them have gone hog-crazy at controlling women's health choices and women are dying because of it.

Why do these men want to control women's bodies so much? Weirdos.

 

[Gough]

The problem is on the ground. 90% of states are implementing reasonable abortion controls.

10% of them have gone hog-crazy at controlling women's health choices and women are dying because of it.

Why do these men want to control women's bodies so much? Weirdos.

It's a bit more than 10%, that's the problem.

https://www.cnn.com/us/abortion-access-restrictions-bans-us-dg

 

[kickazz]

Swift?

Not many at all.

My feeling is that the celebrity endorsements mean a lot less than people think they will.

Hillary had about 400,000 celebrity endorsements and it didn’t do her much good – a lot of average Americans don’t like being told what to do by rich Hollywood / music industry types.

Might help a bit with a few young first time voters but a lot of the ones who might be influenced would be in the Harris camp already.

Having said all that I think the timing of her announcement might be tactically important . . . it means that a bit more of the post debate commentary will focus of Harris and the Democrats and make it harder for the Republicans to do damage control.

They may already be in the Harris camp but still not motivated enough to vote.

Also, I think she did well to not tell people what to do so much. Yes she implored them to enrol, and said she'd vote for Kamala, but was pretty clear in not telling or suggesting how others should vote.

 

[kickazz]

If it wasn't obvious that Trump is Putin's man before this debate, surely it is now. When asked who he wanted to win the war, he had his chance to clearly say Ukraine, but didn't.

 

[kickazz]

Understand in the US you need to rouse the base, but in those purple states surely Harris needs to win those undecided voters.

And all the endorsements she is getting from Republicans , from former Republican Presidents no less, from VPs, etc. Does she need to hit this message home harder?

 

[swingdog]

That may turn out to be the Republicans greatest error. Abortion was hugely potent as a calling cry to rally the base but actually overturning RvW has them losing support in a way they just didn't imagine it would and turned it into an even bigger issue.

Dog catches car conundrum.

 

[QuietB]

Lol. What a effing clown.

'Donald Trump has called for ABC to lose their broadcasting license after the way the network moderated last night’s TV debate. Saying the network took “a big hit last night”, Trump said “They have to be licensed to do it. They ought to take away their license for the way they did that. I think they lost a lot of credibility.”

He told viewers of Fox and Friends that he had polls showing he had won the debate “by 80-20, 90, we we have one here, 92 to seven. And I sort of believe that’s right”. Trump did not name the polls.

He continued his attack on ABC, saying “From the standpoint of ABC, they’re the most dishonest, in my opinion, the most dishonest news organization, and that’s saying a lot, because they’re all essentially really dishonest.” '
Guardian live blog

Bloody hell. Trump polled his own dinner table and it came up 92-7

Melania - ****ing immigrants again

 

[Gough]

Dog catches car conundrum.

Before RvW was overturned the GOP made very clear what they wanted in regard to abortion laws and no amount of scratching around the edges now that it has can remove that from people's minds.

 

[QuietB]

Time
Inflation eased again in August, cementing expectations that the Federal Reserve is set to cut interest rates next week for the first time since the pandemic’s early days.
Data released Wednesday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics showed prices climbed 2.5 percent in the 12 months ending in August. That was a noticeable improvement over the 2.9 percent notched in July, in part because of falling gas prices. Prices also climbed 0.2 percent over the previous month.

This may upset DonOld , particularly if feds drop intrest rates before election, claims of o
Election interference

An interest rate cut would be rather bad news for Trump

 

[jackn]

Has there ever been a more power imbalanced handshake than the one before this debate? Kamala sought the old dude out as he tried to shuffle up without looking at her, forcing him to act polite for the cameras. Guarantee she called him champ as she introduced herself.

 

[U2tigers]

U2tigers, you’re not a genuine Trump fan are you?

This is just another bit of your (justly famous) trolling, right?

No not a Trump fan mainly. amused at times though.

I seriously can't understand how either side in America can have the leaders they have chosen in the last 8 odd years.

Crazy they are in even in this position.