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Bo has the potential to be another Luke Hodge, just get him
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Will Hayes interviewed tonight said he had meetings with 15 clubs at the draft camp.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out. The thing is that trading up/down will be driven by needs rather than rating imo. You have North looking to trade down because midfielders just aren't a massive priority. If our priority really was a beast of a HBF-er then I think we'd pay up for the right pick.
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I just thought for a player reckoned to be to later pick in the draft or a rookie, interest from 15 clubs was quite a lot, as he may be more of long term prospect at AFL level with his light frame.
Just listened to another bit of media he did on SEN yesterday. He said it was 11 clubs interviewed him at the draft camp, and 4 since visited the house. He was telling Gossage and Cummings that when Fremantle came to the house and talked to his dad, his dad spent most of the time talking about the history of the club. i.e a fanatic.
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I think the "tax" is removed if it's done on opening and not waiting for the actual pick, then it's more like it was agreed before hand and just needed to wait for draft night to begin. I'm not really a fan of it regardless anyway. Seems we are a lock to get whoever is left out of the top end sub 190cm players and that works for me.
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For perspective, We can only take 3 “Live” picks at the draft.
So 7,14,30,32,47 doesn’t really work for us.
It was an interesting tidbit in the age. But it’s hard to see how this gets done.
Whereas 8+32 for 15+16+ late pick for academy points would work from the Giants.
Twomey prob heard we have been asking the question. Doesn’t mean St Kilda are actually interested. As you say it might take a good future pick swap scenario.
I wonder whether package is entertained with Sydney:
19,22 > 14,30
Id actually be all good with that. But doubt Berry slides that far back
Seems dropping 2-3 spots is the value of F2. Adelaide and North a possibility of 2 > 4,F2
West Coast dropped a few spots via F2 swap with Port in 2021 when they ended up with Chesser:
12 > 14, F2.
Clubs 2-4 spots ahead of us:
10,11 (Richmond) - can’t see that happening
12 (WCE) - can’t see that happening either
Melbourne have pick 9 (next pick is not until 79)
St Kilda have 7,8 (next picks 32,47,80) - doesn’t really make a lot of sense for them to get 30 and drop back 6 spots. They have an academy player who is around mid 30 to mid 40 so not sure they need another pick in the 30 range.
Melbourne would be some chance but would cost more than than F2 or 30.
9, 79 > 14, 30, F3 (Freo)
West Coast dropped a few spots via F2 swap with Port in 2021 when they ended up with Chesser:
12 > 14, F2.
Clubs 2-4 spots ahead of us:
10,11 (Richmond) - can’t see that happening
12 (WCE) - can’t see that happening either
Melbourne have pick 9 (next pick is not until 79)
St Kilda have 7,8 (next picks 32,47,80) - doesn’t really make a lot of sense for them to get 30 and drop back 6 spots. They have an academy player who is around mid 30 to mid 40 so not sure they need another pick in the 30 range.
Melbourne would be some chance but would cost more than than F2 or 30.
9, 79 > 14, 30, F3 (Freo)
Can we put Odin on the long term injury list and draft a replacement player or can we only and another via SSP?
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Please explain Taylor
I think what we can do here (assuming jones is ruled out for all of next season, or at least on a “long term” basis) is place him on a LTI list, then use that spot to select Quinton Narkle.
This in turn means there is one extra spot available on draft night or in the rookie draft, that we could use on a new player (not an already listed one like Knobel who will be added to the RL the day after the national draft, regardless).
Basically means we could have new players in the club with
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And then one new player in the rookie draft alongside Knobel.
Before Odins injury we needed to save that rookie list spot for Narkle.
That last pick in ND might be lined up for a specific mature age type like Jaren Carr for example. Knowing we have a spot available in the Rookie draft we instead target another young player with our third pick. We may even for example try and upgrade that third pick to select a young slider in the draft who we rated much higher than 50 for example. Murphy last year was rated much higher and not necessarily an area of need we just picked him anyway at 40.
Quite often we use our last late ND pick for mature ager, ie Frederick, Switta, Wagner, Bewley/Schultz etc. last year we instead added McDonald as DFA.
I think what Taylor is saying is with an additional spot in rookie we can change tact a little for our third ND pick.
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Exactly, before the injury we had to be locked into passing on a National Draft pick so we have the rookie spots to take Narkle in the SSP. Knowing we will have another spot open up after the draft for Narkle due to the Jones injury, it will allow us to take that extra National Draft selection instead - or take another rookie pick/have Carr on the rookie list instead of the national draft.
Odin Jones can’t play ANY level of football when on the inactive list. There is NO indication of how bad the injury is yet.
There is ZERO chance it changes how many picks we take at the draft next week.
There is ZERO chance it changes how many picks we take at the draft next week.
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Whilst you’re right and likely we wait till after the drafts and see where things are at for Odin.
In saying that it isn’t unreasonable to be jumping to conclusions that this could well be a long term injury lay-off:
- freak accident at home
- rushed to hospital for emergency surgery
- fractured vertebrae
- remaining in hospital for weeks
- comments by our General Footy Manager “our thoughts go out to Odin and his family”
He aint playing this year. Fractured vertebrae is no joke.
Really? How come Kuek came back and was playing WAFL halfway thrill last season? Was it because we then had Pearce on it?
Seems a dumb rule on not letting someone play reserves.
Correct - Freo announced just prior to the MSD that they would not be participating and that Kuek was making good recovery. A few weeks after this Kuek played his first game for East Perth Reserves (Peel had a bye).
I’d say this is a blue print for what they will do here. Have two players come and train over summer for an SSP spot. They can have two players (at a time) for every available spot. If none of the players impress then leave spot open for MSD or for Odin Jones to recover and play WAFL.
The two players that missed out gives us an indication of the positions of players we have in mind for draft. Max Beattie (small forward) and Sam Van Rooyen (tall forward). So I don’t think our draft plans change greatly except where we potentially land on our third ND pick. If we believe Carr is a good chance of going through the ND and RD undrafted then he could be one of the two we get down for SSP train-on.
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Rumour has it, he was trying to do a backflip and landed awkwardly...
To be clear I’m not saying the SSP to replace Jones is not an option. I’m just saying I don’t think we can make a decision on that by next week when the drafts are on.
It’s not fair on Jones to make him inactive then by Round 5/6 he’s ready to play limited minutes in the WAFL reserves but he can’t because he’s (temporarily) not on our list until we move someone else onto the inactive list.
Likewise I don’t think it’s fair on say Carr (???), Knobel or Narkle to change our plans for them because of this injury when we don’t, to my knowledge anyway, have a timeframe for this injury. The decision to upgrade Worner when we didn’t need to (but had committed to previously) for me shows we’re trying to stay true to any commitments made to our players and that would likely extend to players we’ve committed to but aren’t yet on our list.
If Jones is to be replaced via the SSP, I expect us to be inviting two players down to train with us between December and January. If there’s any chance Jones returns at any level in 2025 though I wouldn’t expect us to replace him.
We’re not finding ourselves an extra draft pick out of this. Any SSP train ons will be overlooked at the draft (maybe including delisted players).
It’s not fair on Jones to make him inactive then by Round 5/6 he’s ready to play limited minutes in the WAFL reserves but he can’t because he’s (temporarily) not on our list until we move someone else onto the inactive list.
Likewise I don’t think it’s fair on say Carr (???), Knobel or Narkle to change our plans for them because of this injury when we don’t, to my knowledge anyway, have a timeframe for this injury. The decision to upgrade Worner when we didn’t need to (but had committed to previously) for me shows we’re trying to stay true to any commitments made to our players and that would likely extend to players we’ve committed to but aren’t yet on our list.
If Jones is to be replaced via the SSP, I expect us to be inviting two players down to train with us between December and January. If there’s any chance Jones returns at any level in 2025 though I wouldn’t expect us to replace him.
We’re not finding ourselves an extra draft pick out of this. Any SSP train ons will be overlooked at the draft (maybe including delisted players).
