2025 Federal Election: A Pox o' Both Your Houses

[Saint]

The Dutton and Albanese threads are having similar discussions, so maybe better to condense them.

Betting (as of Feb) is showing a hung parliament has more certainty than being able to pick which side will have the PM. The Libs are currently in the lead with the betting.

The story of the election might be that it's finally the election where "other" beats both the Liberals and Labor. It's a near-certainty that Labor will not retain a majority, given they've done sweet f-all in 3 years and seem to be asking for another 3 years of no-policy-Government.

 

[nut]

It's a near-certainty that Labor will not retain a majority, given they've done sweet f-all in 3 years and seem to be asking for another 3 years of no-policy-Government.

I don’t get this sentiment at all…

 

[pjcrows]

Rupert in election mode already.

 

[Forward Press]

The gap will close at election time.

But even if the coalition has the 2PP lead, difficult to see a majority government. Which of the teal seats are they going to wrestle back, enough to form government in their own right? Individual polling in those electorates will be more informative as to the chance of a Dutton PM.

They look near certain to take back a handful of ALP seats (for example a couple of the WA seats that turned over due to the McGowan factor), but it's not enough.

An ALP majority government looks impossible at this stage.

 

[Saint]

I don’t get this sentiment at all…

Standard of living has declined significantly due to inflation. The majority of Australians are significantly worse-off now than when the ALP came to power.

What policies do the ALP have to address this?

If you'd like to share what you think the ALP will do over the next 2 years, this would be the place to share it.

I'd much rather talk policy than commentate a race.

A few key areas:
National Defence: AUKUS is bipartisan, the Greens oppose it.
Immigration: Kicking illegal immigrants out is bipartisan
Fossil Fuels: Bipartisan, LNP want to replace with nuclear, ALP want to replace with renewables, Greens want to end sooner and tax exports more.

The Libs are proposing Nuclear power to reduce emissions and bring prices down - experts disagree, but that's what the party's policy is. The Liberals have posted their policies:

Our Plan to Get Australia Back on Track - Liberal Party of Australia

We are the Liberal Party. We believe in families – whatever their composition. Small and micro-businesses. For the aspirational hard-working ‘forgotten people’ across the cities, suburbs, regions and in the bush.

www.liberal.org.au

The Greens are proposing to tax gas and billionaires to pay for their policies including dental in medicare. Doesn't appear to have a 2025 policy platform yet.

Policy Principles and Aims | Australian Greens

greens.org.au

Labor's policies seem to be mostly things they've already done and announcing positive economic indicators. I don't think any of these policies include anything for future legislation.

Labor's plan for a better future

Find out about Anthony Albanese's and Labor’s policies.

alp.org.au

One Nation have similar policies to the Libs: "Reduce Govt Waste, more gas and coal" and then a bunch of policies to help old people mostly and reduce regulation.

https://www.onenation.org.au/issues

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Great thread title Saint

Rate cut should help see a Labor minority

 

[faible]

Standard of living has declined significantly due to inflation. The majority of Australians are significantly worse-off now than when the ALP came to power.

What policies do the ALP have to address this?

If you'd like to share what you think the ALP will do over the next 2 years, this would be the place to share it.

I'd much rather talk policy than commentate a race.

A few key areas:
National Defence: AUKUS is bipartisan, the Greens oppose it.
Immigration: Kicking illegal immigrants out is bipartisan
Fossil Fuels: Bipartisan, LNP want to replace with nuclear, ALP want to replace with renewables, Greens want to end sooner and tax exports more.

The Libs are proposing Nuclear power to reduce emissions and bring prices down - experts disagree, but that's what the party's policy is. The Liberals have posted their policies:

Our Plan to Get Australia Back on Track - Liberal Party of Australia

We are the Liberal Party. We believe in families – whatever their composition. Small and micro-businesses. For the aspirational hard-working ‘forgotten people’ across the cities, suburbs, regions and in the bush.

www.liberal.org.au

The Greens are proposing to tax gas and billionaires to pay for their policies including dental in medicare. Doesn't appear to have a 2025 policy platform yet.

Policy Principles and Aims | Australian Greens

greens.org.au

Labor's policies seem to be mostly things they've already done and announcing positive economic indicators. I don't think any of these policies include anything for future legislation.

Labor's plan for a better future

Find out about Anthony Albanese's and Labor’s policies.

alp.org.au

One Nation have similar policies to the Libs: "Reduce Govt Waste, more gas and coal" and then a bunch of policies to help old people mostly and reduce regulation.

https://www.onenation.org.au/issues

I don't think the ALP have released their 2025 election platform yet, seems they're holding out to see what the RBA does today first.

There's been a few policies announced over the last week(s), but they're not really packaged up in to a policy document as yet

All News

alp.org.au

 

[campbell]

I would love to vote for a Teal in my electorate.

 

[Saint]

Housing Policy:

Liberals proposing spending more money on Greenfield infrastructure to reduce the price of newbuilds.
ALP passed legislation for Help to buy scheme for entry-level housing. In Vic, this is replacing the Victorian version of the scheme.
Greens are proposing more radical measures including market intervention and reducing Neg Gearing and Cap Gains exemption

 

[Saint]

I would love to vote for a Teal in my electorate.

I have a Teal to vote for, but I'm not really sure of their policies. Just that they're different to the major parties who have "forgotten" local issues. I'm not sure if it's enough.

She did get 8% last election as an independent, but she's not all that dissimilar to the other progressive options. Not really a centrist alternative to the Libs who currently hold the seat, so I don't think she's going to take those votes/preferences needed to unseat the Libs.

https://www.claireferresmiles.com/

 

[faible]

Not really a centrist alternative to the Libs

Isn't she?

I'm not reading anything insanely progressive in her policies, perhaps the most 'progressive' thing is her stance on Israel-Palestine.

 

[Saint]

Isn't she?

I'm not reading anything insanely progressive in her policies, perhaps the most 'progressive' thing is her stance on Israel-Palestine.

I think she's to the left of the ALP. "Standing up to corporations", "integrity in politics", "Greedy corporations gouging customers".

I don't think it's overly progressive either, but it's more progressive than the ALP.

 

[faible]

I think she's to the left of the ALP. "Standing up to corporations", "integrity in politics", "Greedy corporations gouging customers".

I don't think it's overly progressive either, but it's more progressive than the ALP.

I wouldn't say the ALP are particularly progressive, somewhat socially, not overly economically. She's also a (nominal) Independent, so of course she'll be a bit less invested in maintaining the current political system that benefits the duopoly and have policy statements mostly aimed at the local area.

I'd say most of her positions are already fairly broadly socially popular, neither wildly progressive nor conservative. IMO I'd call it a 'centrist' option, but I'm probably on the more progressive side on a few topics.

 

[The King!]

Need a poll

Good thread.

 

[pjcrows]

Another bootlicker earning his tuppence.

 

[Vindicater]

I would love to vote for a Teal in my electorate.

I have an antivax freedom independent who runs on a major platform of having a great beard.

Picking are slim. My vote will end up going to Rishworth after preferences.

Greens will get my senate vote unless Patrick runs again which I doubt he is.

 

[spinynorman]

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Another bootlicker earning his tuppence.

I’m not in any way defending NewsCorp, obviously, but I do think the speculation is he’s going to call an election any day now in the wake of this, and it seems like they do risk performing a victory lap over some small good news after presiding over three years of pain.

 

[campbell]

I have an antivax freedom independent who runs on a major platform of having a great beard.

Picking are slim. My vote will end up going to Rishworth after preferences.

Greens will get my senate vote unless Patrick runs again which I doubt he is.

Slim pickings in my electorate.

I voted Legalise Cannabis last election.
We are a LNP electorate. A big One Nation vote as well.

Good to see Roberts terms up.....

 

[Rotayjay]

It's good to keep the election discussion to one thread rather than flipping between the Albo and Dutton threads.

This is what was handed to me at the railway station this morning:

 

[Ohitsthatguy]

Scare campaign is the way to go

 

[Rotayjay]

I get that the empire doesn't die with him, but hopefully this is the last election Rupert Murdoch sees alive.

 

[campbell]

It's good to keep the election discussion to one thread rather than flipping between the Albo and Dutton threads.

This is what was handed to me at the railway station this morning:

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Well, he wants to cut Public Service jobs.

So, they can be contracted out to private friends.

Same playbook, different Lib election.

 

[Theseventhhamster]

I get that the empire doesn't die with him, but hopefully this is the last election Rupert Murdoch sees alive.

I'll drink to the campaigner's death but it will make **** all difference. A different billionaire campaigner or campaigners will own the news media he now controls.

 

[faible]

I'll drink to the campaigner's death but it will make **** all difference. A different billionaire campaigner or campaigners will own the news media he now controls.

Depends on the family fallout.

I think only one of them is a full on Trump fan, the rest are less nutty so probably won’t pursue the same agenda.

 

[Jascave]

It'll be interesting to see how many seats Labor will lose in Victoria at the upcoming federal election.

And if Labor does lose a swag of seats in Victoria, they won't need to look very far to someone to blame for the defeat: Victorian Premier Jacinta Allen.