2025 Federal Election: A Pox o' Both Your Houses

[nut]

If the Ponzi scheme collapsed we would suffer a world wide recession that would make the GFC look like Xmas. We should have taken the hit then & reset.
It’s unsolvable now and will eventually result in global collapse.

Just change the currency … make governments responsible for money creation.
We are in a society where capital controls governments… governments (the people) should control capital.

 

[Red4]

ALP would win a majority if they got rid of negative gearing but they won’t do it even for that

 

[peetoo]

The Labor candidate in Kooyong is a local (seemingly since birth) from what I can gather and is an architect. Will probably finish 3rd but watch where the preferences go.

We are well and truly tactical voting, make no mistake

 

[Forward Press]

I think they'll lose more than they'll win.

There is no way the ALP will retain all their seats in WA. Pearce, Hasluck, Tangney and Bullwinkel are all extremely vulnerable.

That in itself might remove any chance of an ALP majority government.

 

[Saint]

There is no way the ALP will retain all their seats in WA. Pearce, Hasluck, Tangney and Bullwinkel are all extremely vulnerable.

That in itself might remove any chance of an ALP majority government.

Are the WA Libs as much of a rabble as the Victorian Libs, though?

I don't follow WA politics, but they wouldn't have a lot of money and staff to throw around because they're so decimated at State and Federal level.

 

[Rob R]

I suspect Labour will lose a few but libs net gain will be minimal as they lose.more.to teals. ALP minority government with support guaranteed by teals

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[Donakebab]

Yes it’s of above average intelligence & literacy & better informed. It’s literally the only place on the internet I can engage in political discourse without swarms of low information, low intellect, propaganda repeating morons flooding the zone.

Sounds like a bunch of woke nonsense that Bill Gates is making you think through the microchips in the

 

[Forward Press]

Are the WA Libs as much of a rabble as the Victorian Libs, though?

I don't follow WA politics, but they wouldn't have a lot of money and staff to throw around because they're so decimated at State and Federal level.

Yes, but we vote differently when it comes to Federal elections. Think that until 2022 the majority of electorates in WA went to the coalition in every election since Keating was PM. We still voted coalition during Rudd/Gillard.

We delivered Albanese the Lodge almost solely because of McGowan's popularity. That's gone now. There was a 15% swing away from Labor in the recent State election, albeit less than half of that went back to the Libs.

 

[samFFC]

Excellent work by Labor

PBS medication to cost no more than $25 under Labor re-election pitch

As US big pharma comes for Australia's PBS, Labor is promising even cheaper medicines.

www.abc.net.au

Previously reduced max fee from $41 to $30 per month
Listing more medications on the PBS
60 day dispensing to get 2 months for the price of 1

And now, reducing the max fee to $25.

Right after the Pharma companies demanded Trump tariff Australia for the PBS. Love it.

Cross posted here!

 

[samFFC]

ALP Majority has entered the chat.

I can't see a way they hold all of their seats. Lingiari in particular, after Labor got smashed in the NT election last year.

Bennelong, Higgins and Gilmore too, I wouldn't be backing the ALP.

Huh?

 

[samFFC]

Are the WA Libs as much of a rabble as the Victorian Libs, though?

I don't follow WA politics, but they wouldn't have a lot of money and staff to throw around because they're so decimated at State and Federal level.

Pretty much as much of a rabble!

 

[samFFC]

There is no way the ALP will retain all their seats in WA. Pearce, Hasluck, Tangney and Bullwinkel are all extremely vulnerable.

That in itself might remove any chance of an ALP majority government.

Hasluck is a sure thing.
But the others I agree. (Noting Bullwinkel is new - technically “defending” Higgins)
Almost no chance of majority, but they are nudging towards 70+, which is great from where things were.
Basically locks out the Coalition from forming govt.

 

[nut]

Sportsbet finally shifted.
Labor majority into $6

 

[Saint]

Sportsbet finally shifted.
Labor majority into $6

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The market will get slower because the amount of money invested already only increases.

 

[Rotayjay]

I think they'll lose more than they'll win. I don't think they have done enough to deliver what they promised in terms of cost of living. I can't see them getting more votes than last election. Obviously the distribution of those will be important, but across the board, I see a small swing against (toward minor parties) which will inevitably cost more seats than it wins.

I'm not sure Dai Le has done poorly enough, or that the damage from the Kenneally parachute can be completely undone.

But if I were betting, yes I think the ALP would win Fowler.

I'll be brutally honest and say that if the ALP runs an Asian candidate, that'll put Dai Le in serious trouble. That's why she won - the community identified with her rather than a parachuted white American.

 

[nut]

I'll be brutally honest and say that if the ALP runs an Asian candidate, that'll put Dai Le in serious trouble. That's why she won - the community identified with her rather than a parachuted white American.

PM introduces Tu Le as Labor challenger for western Sydney seat of Fowler

Candidate passed over in 2022 when former Labor senator Kristina Keneally was parachuted into seat before losing to independent Dai Le

www.theguardian.com

 

[kalex6251]

PM introduces Tu Le as Labor challenger for western Sydney seat of Fowler

Candidate passed over in 2022 when former Labor senator Kristina Keneally was parachuted into seat before losing to independent Dai Le

www.theguardian.com

managed the kennealy $hit-sandwich handed her by the alp with class and dignity ..... that should resonate well

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Almost no chance of majority, but they are nudging towards 70+, which is great from where things were.
Basically locks out the Coalition from forming govt.

The Number One priority for Australia.

 

[nut]

Wheels are falling off team Dutton

Angus Taylor says deportation referendum 'not Coalition policy' — as it happened

Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor has denied that a proposal to hold a referendum on whether to hand politicians unconstrained power to deport criminal dual citizens is Coalition policy.

www.abc.net.au

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Wheels are falling off team Dutton

Angus Taylor says deportation referendum 'not Coalition policy' — as it happened

Shadow Treasurer Angus Taylor has denied that a proposal to hold a referendum on whether to hand politicians unconstrained power to deport criminal dual citizens is Coalition policy.

www.abc.net.au

Who let him come out with this ridiculous brainfart? Did they back him internally knowing he'd make an arse of himself and then back away in public? Or did he just throw it out there off the top of his head?

 

[Rotayjay]

Will either of them address this? No.

Cue the whingeing about the average taxable income of a property investor being low, and whingeing that property investors are mums and dads, police, nurses, insert respectable job here.

Taxable income means **** all when you can write off personal expenses as business expenses, and use companies and family trusts to minimise income. And I don't care if the landlord is a police officer. Good on them for doing that job. But that's not the point. This country can no longer afford for a family home to cost 10 times the average family income so some 'battlers' can get rich.

 

[Rotayjay]

Who let him come out with this ridiculous brainfart? Did they back him internally knowing he'd make an arse of himself and then back away in public? Or did he just throw it out there off the top of his head?

Perhaps it's a bit of 3D chess from Angus Taylor. Let Dutton **** up and lose the 2025 election, get close enough ready for the next election, take the Liberal leadership, and become PM in 2028.

 

[Saint]

Cue the whingeing about the average taxable income of a property investor being low, and whingeing that property investors are mums and dads, police, nurses, insert respectable job here.

Taxable income means **** all when you can write off personal expenses as business expenses, and use companies and family trusts to minimise income. And I don't care if the landlord is a police officer. Good on them for doing that job. But that's not the point. This country can no longer afford for a family home to cost 10 times the average family income so some 'battlers' can get rich.

Yeah, a lot of 50+ year olds have regular jobs but have family trusts/super which have invested in property because of the tax breaks. If those CGT exemptions didn't exist, they would be investing in more productive areas such as the stock market (actual companies who actually grow and produce and sell things).

We only need to shake 5% out of the SMSF pool from property into stocks and we'd see immediate housing affordability benefits.

 

[Rotayjay]

Yeah, a lot of 50+ year olds have regular jobs but have family trusts/super which have invested in property because of the tax breaks. If those CGT exemptions didn't exist, they would be investing in more productive areas such as the stock market (actual companies who actually grow and produce and sell things).

We only need to shake 5% out of the SMSF pool from property into stocks and we'd see immediate housing affordability benefits.

Self-managed super funds and family trusts are the biggest ****ing rort. Salary and wage earners are being taken for a ride while the wealthy pay little tax.

 

[barreness]

No because everyone wants in on the ponzi scheme…. And the Banks love it.

Remember money = Debt
Banks creating loans is what drives the economy, it’s what creates more money in the economy.
The banks always wins.

Yes, kinda

But the important thing is debt=credit somewhere else
If the govt is in debt, the working class is in debt, who has the credit?