2025 Ladder Predictions

[Fadge]

1. Hawthorn
2. Fremantle
3. Collingwood (Premiere)
4. Sydney
5. Carlton
6. Essendon
7. Geelong (Runner Up)
8. Brisbane

9. GWS
10. Adelaide
11. Gold Coast
12. Saint Kilda
13. Port Adelaide
14. Western Bulldogs
15. North Melbourne
16. West Coast
17. Melbourne
18. Richmond

First person in 5 pages to put Essendon in their top 8

The 7,000 something day question is....

Do Essendon win their final?

 

[TheUnicorn]

The 7,000 something day question is....

Do Essendon win their final?

 

[JackHiscoxWasFast]

1. Bulldogs (P)
2. Lions (RU)
3. Carlton
4. Freo
5. Hawks
6. GWS
7. Geelong
8. Gold Coast

9. Port
10. Sydney
11. Collingwood
12. St Kilda
13. Melbourne
14. Bombers
15. Crows
16. North
17. WCE
18. Tigers

 

[bungalow_bill]

Chances of another GF with no teams from Vic? Brisbane Sydney GWS & Fremantle will all be serious contenders again. Port will be up there again but hard to see them making it past the semi/ prelim stage.

 

[Angus Young]

Brisbane
GWS
Port
Sydney
Hawks
Carlton
Geelong
Freo

 

[justlookingaround]

Tipping a ladder is a near impossible task - no one has ever done it on Bigfooty in 25 years of operation - and no one will go to the effort of fact checking me on that so I'll stand by it.

1. Brisbane
2. Geelong
3. GWS
4. PAFC
5. Hawthorn
6. WB
7. Collingwood
8. St Kilda

9. Sydney
10. Fremantle
11. Carlton
12. Gold Coast
13. Essendon
14. NMFC
15. Adelaide
16. Melbourne
17. WCE
18. Richmond

Nicks, Longmuir, Voss and Goodwin all under the most pressure.
Hinkley signs 6 year extension.

 

[GoldStandard]

Vic/Interstate split since 2020

2020: 5 Vic/3 Interstate
2021: 4 Vic/4 Interstate
2022: 5 Vic/3 Interstate
2023: 4 Vic/4 Interstate
2024: 4 Vic/4 Interstate

It doesn't seem to change very far from this general trend (because professional sports are rigged and the AFL is kept afloat by gambling advertising, duh).

I tend to think next year will flip to 3 Vic/ 5 Interstate, just based on the quality of the sides and the fact that not many Vic teams really jump out at you as premiership quality.

1. Sydney
2. Carlton
3. Hawthorn
4. Brisbane
5. GWS
6. Collingwood
7. Fremantle
8. Gold Coast

Another thing the AFL loves is narratives. It would be pretty wild to have a GWS v Gold Coast finals matchup with Gold Coast causing the upset and having a chance to win their first flag before the Giants.

If you can predict the narratives, you've got the AFL figured out.

 

[PizzaPie]

1. Geelong
2. Greater Western Sydney (RU)
3. Collingwood (P)
4. Hawthorn
5. St Kilda
6. Fremantle
7. Port Adelaide
8. Western Bulldogs
9. Carlton
10. Brisbane Lions
11. Essendon
12. Sydney
13. Melbourne
14. Adelaide
15. Gold Coast
16. Richmond
17. West Coast
18. North Melbourne

 

[PizzaPie]

I provided ChatGPT with the 2024 H&A ladder and asked it to predict the 2025 H&A ladder:

1) using statistics from the table of instances the team that finished in position 1-18 in each of the 12 H&A seasons from 2012 to 2023 finished the following H&A season in the position ranges at the top of each column.

2) adhering to these rules (which are close to the averages over those seasons):

Top 4, 2025

• 2x teams from 2024 top 4
• 1x team from 2024 5-8
• 1x team from 2024 9-18

5-8, 2025:

• 1x team from 2024 top 4
• 1x team from 2024 5-8
• 2x teams from 2024 9-18

Position	1st - 4th	5th - 8th	9th - 13th	14th -18th	Top 8	9th - 18th
1	7	1	3	1	8	4
2	6	4	2	0	10	2
3	8	1	3	0	9	3
4	6	4	1	1	10	2
5	1	4	5	2	5	7
6	3	4	4	1	7	5
7	2	5	3	2	7	5
8	3	2	4	3	5	7
9	2	4	3	3	6	6
10	2	6	3	1	8	4
11	2	2	6	2	4	8
12	2	2	4	4	4	8
13	2	2	5	3	4	8
14	0	3	6	3	3	9
15	1	0	3	8	1	11
16	0	3	3	6	3	9
17	1	0	2	9	1	11
18	0	1	0	11	1	11

RESULTS:


1. Port Adelaide (2024 finish: 2nd) - Remains in the top 4.
2. Geelong (2024 finish: 3rd) - Stays in the top 4.
3. Collingwood (2024 finish: 9th) - Breaks into the top 4 from the 9-18 range.
4. Brisbane Lions (2024 finish: 5th) - Moves into the top 4 from the 5-8 range.
5. Western Bulldogs (2024 finish: 6th) - Holds steady in the 5-8 range.
6. Fremantle (2024 finish: 10th) - Moves up into the 5-8 range.
7. Essendon (2024 finish: 11th) - Climbs into the 5-8 range.
8. Greater Western Sydney (2024 finish: 4th) - Drops to the 5-8 range.
9. Sydney (2024 finish: 1st) - Drops into the 9-18 range.
10. Carlton (2024 finish: 8th) - Drops into the 9-18 range.
11. Hawthorn (2024 finish: 7th) - Drops into the 9-18 range.
12. St Kilda (2024 finish: 12th) - Remains in the 9-18 range.
13. Melbourne (2024 finish: 14th) - Slight improvement but stays in the 9-18 range.
14. Gold Coast (2024 finish: 13th) - Likely to stay in the 9-18 range.
15. Adelaide (2024 finish: 15th) - Expected to remain in the 9-18 range.
16. West Coast (2024 finish: 16th) - Likely to stay in the lower end.
17. North Melbourne (2024 finish: 17th) - Unlikely to move up significantly.
18. Richmond (2024 finish: 18th) - Remains at the bottom of the ladder.

Summary:
Top 4 teams from 2024 (Sydney, Port Adelaide, Geelong, Greater Western Sydney):
2 teams (Port Adelaide, Geelong) remain in the top 4.
1 team (Greater Western Sydney) drops to the 5-8 range.
1 team (Sydney) drops to the 9-18 range.

Teams that finished 5-8 in 2024 (Brisbane Lions, Western Bulldogs, Hawthorn, Carlton):
1 team (Brisbane Lions) moves into the top 4.
1 team (Western Bulldogs) remains in the 5-8 range.
2 teams (Hawthorn, Carlton) drop to the 9-18 range.

Teams that finished 10-18 in 2024 (Collingwood, Fremantle, Essendon, St Kilda, Melbourne, Gold Coast, Adelaide, West Coast, North Melbourne, Richmond):
1 team (Collingwood) moves into the top 4.
2 teams (Fremantle, Essendon) move into the 5-8 range.
7 teams (St Kilda, Melbourne, Gold Coast, Adelaide, West Coast, North Melbourne, Richmond) remain in the 9-18 range.


It was pretty lazy with most of the 9-18 without any rules besides those moving teams in/out of T4/8, and it appears to have a Collingwood bias

 

[Freomaniac]

For a team that was 11 points off the premiership. Geelong doesn't get a lot of love. They will be better next year, not worse...

I was surprised cats got top 4.

Definately 5th to 14th is likely with the closeness of the ladder.

 

[Freomaniac]

We are very qualified thank you very much
The most successful club since the 1960's and still going strong

Well last year it was about Vic bias.

In 2024, it was a Sydney vs Brisbane grand final.

North bias mate LoL


Not bias towards north Melbourne, bias towards the Queensland and New South Wales states. LoL

 

[tugga]

The only spot that is absolutely certain is Richmond finishing 18th.
The rest are really a lottery.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

For a team that was 11 points off the premiership. Geelong doesn't get a lot of love. They will be better next year, not worse...

If the expected and rumoured trades go through, very probably. If not, slight improvement, tread water, slight dip, all possible. But a slight improvement, if luck also fell their way, could bring a flag.

 

[Blackhawk42]

Geelong (premiers)
Brisbane
Sydney (RU)
St Kilda
Freo
GWS
Collingwood
Port

Hawthorn
Adelaide
Gold Coast
Carlton
Bulldogs
Melbourne
North
WC
Richmond
Essendon

PLEASE get Geelong and Sydney away from Grand Final day. PLEEEEASE.

 

[rapidfire7]

2025 LADDER PREDICTION

1.GIANTS
2. CATS
3. MAGPIES
4. LIONS
5. HAWKS
6. BLUES
7. SWANS
8. DOCKERS

9. BULLDOGS
10. BOMBERS
11. CROWS
12. POWER
13. SUNS
14. SAINTS
15. DEMONS
16. EAGLES
17. KANGAROOS
18. TIGERS

GF GIANTS VS LIONS.

PREMIER THE GIANTS