2025 List changes

[Jelly Bean]

I seem to recall we did this with #30 and kept it vacant the year prior to Darcy being drafted.

Yep. We also effectively held #35 open in case Josh Daicos wanted it when he joined by introducing the weird rotation of the number in honour of 'Presti'... So obviously was just to make sure we could have the number available if a Daicos wanted it.

And we magically abandoned the custom when Nick took the number...

 

[sam_e]

We might not need to. Might only draft 2.

yep. if they want to add both Tomlinson & Hayes (in addition to Membrey), they'll need to take only 2 in the draft and place HH on LTi

 

[sr36]

Okay, so we don’t need to delist anyone else, but can only resign one of Reef, Dean, and Long if we want any to stay. The others would need to be re-drafted. Am I right?

No. They can all be re-signed and kept on their current lists.

If we assume they've been re-signed:

We currently have 34 on the senior list and 4 on the rookie list.

You can have a maximum of 42.

Where it gets complicated is you can have 36-38 on the senior list. But there's a salary cap advantage to having 36, as rookie base salaries aren't included in the salary cap.

At the moment we have 4 vacancies (more if any of the unannounced get delisted)- they can all be senior list vacancies if we want.

 

[Prexm]

Yep and there are just so many categories and versions of everything!!

Assuming no one else is cut.
Leave Parker out of the numbers as a Cat B and we will get to 42 players
Currently 38.
We will pick up a DFA and take the 3 picks to the draft.
If on the night we decide only to use 2 like last year then we have a free spot to fill over summer.

 

[sr36]

Assuming no one else is cut.
Leave Parker out of the numbers as a Cat B and we will get to 42 players
Currently 38.
We will pick up a DFA and take the 3 picks to the draft.
If on the night we decide only to use 2 like last year then we have a free spot to fill over summer.

I won't be surprised if we try to sell one of the picks into next year's draft.

 

[sr36]

yep. if they want to add both Tomlinson & Hayes (in addition to Membrey), they'll need to take only 2 in the draft and place HH on LTi

They wouldn't need to put hh on the injury list. We've got 4 vacancies. 2 draft and 2 mature would do it. Or 3 draft 1 mature.

 

[Prexm]

I won't be surprised if we try to sell one of the picks into next year's draft.

Think that is likely to happen if we get a decent offer as we will want more points for McGuane.

 

[sr36]

Think that is likely to happen if we get a decent offer as we will want more points for McGuane.

And all the talk of the draft makes it sound like one where there will players late that clubs want and will pay to move up.

Likely to be able to swap a F3 for a F2 or something like that

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Hopefully we find out about Tomlinson, Membrey and Hayes soon and whether we plan to pick them up

 

[Kes1984]

They wouldn't need to put hh on the injury list. We've got 4 vacancies. 2 draft and 2 mature would do it. Or 3 draft 1 mature.

Based on Dan McStay, I’m hoping we see HH back around mid season.

 

[Jen2310]

I won't be surprised if we try to sell one of the picks into next year's draft.

Leppa mentioned we may try to move up the board by pick swap if there is a player we like


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[Jen2310]

Based on Dan McStay, I’m hoping we see HH back around mid season.

I don’t think there is a need to rush the kid unlike mcstay. Take all the time he needs, even if it’s the full 12 months


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[sam_e]

They wouldn't need to put hh on the injury list. We've got 4 vacancies. 2 draft and 2 mature would do it. Or 3 draft 1 mature.

i'm missing something

so 37/5/2 or 38/4/2

34 currently including Perryman & Houston (which gives us 4 max to 38)
36 if you we go +2 at the draft
37 if we access Membrey +1 as DFA
38 if we take only one of Tomlinson or Hayes as DFA

which leaves the other one to potentially be picked up as rookie (via SSP) ..but we already have 4 rooks (Smit, Sully, Dean, Long) so that won't work cos of the 42 rule

and 2 cat B's being Parker & Condon

 

[sr36]

i'm missing something

so 37/5/2 or 38/4/2

34 currently including Perryman & Houston (which gives us 4 max to 38)
36 if you we go +2 at the draft
37 if we access Membrey +1 as DFA
38 if we take only one of Tomlinson or Hayes as DFA

which leaves the other one to potentially be picked up as rookie (via SSP) ..but we already have 4 rooks (Smit, Sully, Dean, Long) so that won't work cos of the 42 rule

and 2 cat B's being Parker & Condon

If we only draft 2, we have to promote a rookie. Meaning we'd have a rookie vacancy after the national draft.

 

[sam_e]

If we only draft 2, we have to promote a rookie. Meaning we'd have a rookie vacancy after the national draft.

i'm still not there ...

so 37/5/2 or 38/4/2

34 currently including Perryman & Houston (which gives us 4 max to 38)
36 if you we go +2 at the draft
37 rookie upgrade (let's say Smit)
38 if we access Membrey +1 as DFA

which leaves both Tomlinson and Hayes to potentially be picked up as rookie (via SSP) ..but we already have 3 rooks
(i. Sully, ii. Dean, iii. Long) so that won't work cos of the 42 rule

in my mind, HH would need to be LTI'd to contemplate both Tomlinson and Hayes, which i think is a fair play given our dearth of key defensive back-up

 

[sr36]

i'm still not there ...

so 37/5/2 or 38/4/2

34 currently including Perryman & Houston (which gives us 4 max to 38)
36 if you we go +2 at the draft
37 rookie upgrade (let's say Smit)
38 if we access Membrey +1 as DFA

which leaves both Tomlinson and Hayes to potentially be picked up as rookie (via SSP) ..but we already have 3 rooks
(i. Sully, ii. Dean, iii. Long) so that won't work cos of the 42 rule

Oh sorry. I'm only talking about adding 2 of the mature talks. Are you talking about adding all 3? I can't see that happening.

 

[partypie]

Think it’s 34 senior with on Perryman Houston off Murphy Krueger Noble Richards

Just counted again, footywire shows 39 players listed currently, 33 senior, 5 rookie (Dean, Long, Smit, Steene, Sullivan) plus Will Parker in a Cat B slot.

We'd still need to cut someone to fit in Membrey and Tomlinson as DFA pickups (if that's the way we're going), only OOC players left are Reef (would be unwise to delist him imo), Long and Sullivan.

Not sure where we are going with this, unless we can sign Tomlinson as a Rookie.

 

[Prexm]

Just counted again, footywire shows 39 players listed currently, 33 senior, 5 rookie (Dean, Long, Smit, Steene, Sullivan) plus Will Parker in a Cat B slot.

We'd still need to cut someone to fit in Membrey and Tomlinson as DFA pickups (if that's the way we're going), only OOC players left are Reef (would be unwise to delist him imo), Long and Sullivan.

Not sure where we are going with this, unless we can sign Tomlinson as a Rookie.

Steene was promoted before the season started. Sounds like we will only take one DFA which looks like it is Membrey. Someone like Tomlinson may be a rookie chance if we have a spot and no one else has taken him

 

[Babylove]

Just counted again, footywire shows 39 players listed currently, 33 senior, 5 rookie (Dean, Long, Smit, Steene, Sullivan) plus Will Parker in a Cat B slot.

We'd still need to cut someone to fit in Membrey and Tomlinson as DFA pickups (if that's the way we're going), only OOC players left are Reef (would be unwise to delist him imo), Long and Sullivan.

Not sure where we are going with this, unless we can sign Tomlinson as a Rookie.

So we’ve got 4 list spots in total still available which could be all senior list (you can have up to 38) or you could have 3 senior and 1 rookie or 2 + 2 by virtue of us having to upgrade a rookie if we only take 2 at the draft. I believe if we were to sign Tomlinson via the SSP he would go onto the rookie draft, though I’m not sure if there any restrictions on the SSP that would prevent him from joining a club via that method.

 

[Jen2310]

So we’ve got 4 list spots in total still available which could be all senior list (you can have up to 38) or you could have 3 senior and 1 rookie or 2 + 2 by virtue of us having to upgrade a rookie if we only take 2 at the draft. I believe if we were to sign Tomlinson via the SSP he would go onto the rookie draft, though I’m not sure if there any restrictions on the SSP that would prevent him from joining a club via that method.

Thats right.
SSP's go onto the rookie list. He'll have to nominate for the drafts and if gets overlooked, we can have him as a train on. If we didn't want to use a pick on him.

 

[Anzacday]

Just counted again, footywire shows 39 players listed currently, 33 senior, 5 rookie (Dean, Long, Smit, Steene, Sullivan) plus Will Parker in a Cat B slot.

We'd still need to cut someone to fit in Membrey and Tomlinson as DFA pickups (if that's the way we're going), only OOC players left are Reef (would be unwise to delist him imo), Long and Sullivan.

Not sure where we are going with this, unless we can sign Tomlinson as a Rookie.

I’ll take your word on the numbers and agree on Reef.
If we want Tomlinson and Membrey as DFAs (I do) AND keep Reef we can.
We could delist Ash or Fin and rookie them - comes down to who they prefer out of Ash and Reef.

PS: Sullivan got a 1 year extension.

 

[partypie]

Steene was promoted before the season started. Sounds like we will only take one DFA which looks like it is Membrey. Someone like Tomlinson may be a rookie chance if we have a spot and no one else has taken him

I see it on Wikipedia, good old footywire not updating status again.

The other potential option is to promote someone (Dean?) to open up a spot for Tomlinson to be picked up as a DFA, if we're that keen and need to head off any interest from another club as .

 

[Harry O]

Tommo was on SEN this morning. Hopeful but not confident of another opportunity. Sounded like an absolute cracker of a human being though. Could do worse than have someone like him around the program

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

The other potential option is to promote someone (Dean?) to open up a spot for Tomlinson to be picked up as a DFA, if we're that keen and need to head off any interest from another club as .

That's the exact opposite of what we need to do to pick someone up as a DFA.

DFAs go onto the senior list, so promoting a rookie onto the senior list only makes signing a DFA harder.

You have to wait until the rookie draft/SSP period to add someone to the rookie list.

I don't think Tomlinson would be necessarily opposed to going onto the rookie list, but we'd have to take him in the rookie draft, because I don't think he'd be willing to train on through the SSP at his experience level.

 

[partypie]

I’ll take your word on the numbers and agree on Reef.
If we want Tomlinson and Membrey as DFAs (I do) AND keep Reef we can.
We could delist Ash or Fin and rookie them - comes down to who they prefer out of Ash and Reef.
PS: Sullivan got a 1 year extension.

Was going off footywire which had Steene as a rookie when he was promoted before the 2023 draft, still so it's 34 on the senior list. Basic premise remains the same though, were one spot short and need to shuffle the chess pieces to fit both Membrey and Tomlinson in.

The option of promoting someone to fill up a list spot isn't viable either if we think that another club is looking at Tomlinson, if not then that will work and give us 37/5 after the rookie draft.

Still a bit to play out on this, won't be a straight forward DFA pick up from what I can see after Long and Sullivan have had a deal out in front of them and assuming we'll do the same with Reef.