I think we need a fresh set of eyes over recruitment. Dekka hasn't been that great recent years
I agree, but who do we target?
I’d love the doggies recruiter at the pies. I’m not even sure who he is.
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I think we need a fresh set of eyes over recruitment. Dekka hasn't been that great recent years
I think we’ll need to be ruthless with list management.
Typically we turn over around 8 to 12 players - I think this year will be on the higher side given our results this year, our aging list, and us having a few extra players who covered LTI.
My guess is that this year we turn over around 11 players and they will be:
Murphy (retired)
Carmichael (retired)
Johnson (trade)
Begg
Steene
Markov (He’s now depth)
Sidebottom (IIRC he’s the last 30+ player who doesn’t have a contract? We need to start turning over our aging players because we can’t have them all leaving at once - my guess is that we accept a junk pick to get him to his club of choice)
Krueger (Does a few nice things, but should be more reliable than what he is at this stage of his career)
Reef (Doesn’t bode well with him being switched to the back line a month before his contract is up)
Bytel (Role player who has shown dramatic improvement every week, but not able to win the footy, which at this stage of his career doesn’t make him a long term proposition)
Sullivan (Role player who is getting the best out of himself, but it looks like we’re preferring the bigger bodies Long for the extraction role)
I agree, but who do we target?
I’d love the doggies recruiter at the pies. I’m not even sure who he is.
I think 11 players is cutting too deep given our draft hand, how do we replace them all?
Imo, 2-3 players in the national draft, 1-2 in the rookie draft/ pre season drafts (really hope we don't pick 3 players in the pre season supplementary draft again...), 1-2 players through trade/ free agency so i'd be thinking more like 6-8 at the absolute max delistings
From your list I think Markov, Steene, Kreuger and maybe Reef will be retained for 1 more year
He’s played 9 Senior games this year? (More senior games than AFL games)
Steene is in late negotiations for a 1 year extension, so he's not going anywhere.I think we’ll need to be ruthless with list management.
Typically we turn over around 8 to 12 players - I think this year will be on the higher side given our results this year, our aging list, and us having a few extra players who covered LTI.
My guess is that this year we turn over around 11 players and they will be:
Murphy (retired)
Carmichael (retired)
Johnson (trade)
Begg
Steene
Markov (He’s now depth)
Sidebottom (IIRC he’s the last 30+ player who doesn’t have a contract? We need to start turning over our aging players because we can’t have them all leaving at once - my guess is that we accept a junk pick to get him to his club of choice)
Krueger (Does a few nice things, but should be more reliable than what he is at this stage of his career)
Reef (Doesn’t bode well with him being switched to the back line a month before his contract is up)
Bytel (Role player who has shown dramatic improvement every week, but not able to win the footy, which at this stage of his career doesn’t make him a long term proposition)
Sullivan (Role player who is getting the best out of himself, but it looks like we’re preferring the bigger bodies Long for the extraction role)
Reef will sign on. Can't see him leaving.Markov’s extension was announced about two weeks ago. I reckon Steele plays on, Steene will get a deal.
I’d be very surprised if Reef re-signed. Melbourne were keen last year apparently. If any club proposes an improved role, he should take it.
I’m happy to trade Kreuger if it nets us Keane or Berry. I expect Eyre will be developed forward mostly if we get Keane, and the club have made it clear they want to take a tall in the draft.
I think we’ll need to be ruthless with list management.
Typically we turn over around 8 to 12 players - I think this year will be on the higher side given our results this year, our aging list, and us having a few extra players who covered LTI.
My guess is that this year we turn over around 11 players and they will be:
Murphy (retired)
Carmichael (retired)
Johnson (trade)
Begg
Steene
Markov (He’s now depth)
Sidebottom (IIRC he’s the last 30+ player who doesn’t have a contract? We need to start turning over our aging players because we can’t have them all leaving at once - my guess is that we accept a junk pick to get him to his club of choice)
Krueger (Does a few nice things, but should be more reliable than what he is at this stage of his career)
Reef (Doesn’t bode well with him being switched to the back line a month before his contract is up)
Bytel (Role player who has shown dramatic improvement every week, but not able to win the footy, which at this stage of his career doesn’t make him a long term proposition)
Sullivan (Role player who is getting the best out of himself, but it looks like we’re preferring the bigger bodies Long for the extraction role)
No current season stats available
I think 11 players is cutting too deep given our draft hand, how do we replace them all?
But think generally we have had more senior players OOC, this year its now dwindled down to 4 if you remove Steene, WHE and Howe. The rest are rookie listers.Historically:
End of 2023: 11 players
End of 2022: 9 players
End of 2021: 9 players
End of 2020: 14 players
End of 2019: 6 players
End of 2018: 8 players
End of 2017: 7 players
End of 2016: 11 players
End of 2015: 12 players
End of 2014: 9 players
End of 2013: 14 players
End of 2012: 10 players
End of 2011: 10 players
The average looks to be about 10.
How many do you think we’ll lose this year, and who will they be?
Send Reef to Kenya in the off season.
Link him up with the masters of endurance for at least 3 months.
Hopefully by next year he will be an endurance beast and play out a half.
Or just get him training with the Daicos boys...can't be that hard can it?
Interesting, that is more than i thought it would have beenHistorically:
End of 2023: 11 players
End of 2022: 9 players
End of 2021: 9 players
End of 2020: 14 players
End of 2019: 6 players
End of 2018: 8 players
End of 2017: 7 players
End of 2016: 11 players
End of 2015: 12 players
End of 2014: 9 players
End of 2013: 14 players
End of 2012: 10 players
End of 2011: 10 players
The average looks to be about 10.
How many do you think we’ll lose this year, and who will they be?
In my opinion the worst is getting into finals, especially top 4 and not winning a game.
What Melbourne has done for the past 2 years.
Look at them now - a decent playing list, crap coach and a gutted culture.
I wonder if Trac is gettable by another club?
I think we’ll need to be ruthless with list management.
Typically we turn over around 8 to 12 players - I think this year will be on the higher side given our results this year, our aging list, and us having a few extra players who covered LTI.
My guess is that this year we turn over around 11 players and they will be:
Murphy (retired)
Carmichael (retired)
Johnson (trade)
Begg
Steene
Markov (He’s now depth)
Sidebottom (IIRC he’s the last 30+ player who doesn’t have a contract? We need to start turning over our aging players because we can’t have them all leaving at once - my guess is that we accept a junk pick to get him to his club of choice)
Krueger (Does a few nice things, but should be more reliable than what he is at this stage of his career)
Reef (Doesn’t bode well with him being switched to the back line a month before his contract is up)
Bytel (Role player who has shown dramatic improvement every week, but not able to win the footy, which at this stage of his career doesn’t make him a long term proposition)
Sullivan (Role player who is getting the best out of himself, but it looks like we’re preferring the bigger bodies Long for the extraction role)
So, kinda like this year?I think making finals still adds valuable experience to playing group.
However finishing mid table on the way down (as opposed to after a rebuild which would be a positive) the ladder is a disaster year.
Very little benefit to it and often deludes people into think the teams "just" missing out.
I was thinking about that aspect too, but they seem have most areas covered. F/S or not.Does he bring their F/S prospects with him?
I was thinking about that aspect too, but they seem have most areas covered. F/S or not.
Richards, naughton I believe we could have got both.
Only glaring weaknesses they had were their backs.
I like the look of their list. We’ve done Pretty well from F/S and NGA too.
So, kinda like this year?
Yup.Kinda but I meant with a better injury profile during the year. But yes this year was shiftless result. The Schultz trade makes it worse again.
Longer term this season without a doubt has ?? over it due to the amount of injuries and not just that but to who was injured.
I do think it could go either way due another year older for the older group.