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What's amusing is that commentators are saying that with Richmond's young inexperienced list this is expected. But no one speaks about St Kilda's young inexperienced list.

Graph below slows Round 3 teams.



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The only notable difference there is Nas, Windy and Chito being about a season's experience ahead of their comparative group.
Converting that to an averaged line graph will tell the story better. Adding Pou will further bolster that group.
 
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just a mischevious thought

we shouldnt,but is there any way that people look back in not so many years and say St.Kilda out drafted Richmond in 2024?

i mean Lalor and Trainor off to very good starts,but how are our 5 shaping up?Trav looks set,Barrat should be locked into kpd for 15 years,maybe a regular as early as 2026,Tauru ditto,sounds are pretty positive around Dodson and Said

among the richmond guys are a couple that look like long term developers,sims faull armstrong & alger has only just reached double figure possies in 2 games in the vfl

we lost battle to get our 5 guys,they lost bolton baker graham rioli

interesting watch,for me anyway
 
just a mischevious thought

we shouldnt,but is there any way that people look back in not so many years and say St.Kilda out drafted Richmond in 2024?

i mean Lalor and Trainor off to very good starts,but how are our 5 shaping up?Trav looks set,Barrat should be locked into kpd for 15 years,maybe a regular as early as 2026,Tauru ditto,sounds are pretty positive around Dodson and Said

among the richmond guys are a couple that look like long term developers,sims faull armstrong & alger has only just reached double figure possies in 2 games in the vfl

we lost battle to get our 5 guys,they lost bolton baker graham rioli

interesting watch,for me anyway
I think that will be a great draft for Richmond and I'd be surprised if ours ends up as good. But it also looks like a really good draft for us and compliments the previous 4 years of drafting.
 
just a mischevious thought

we shouldnt,but is there any way that people look back in not so many years and say St.Kilda out drafted Richmond in 2024?

i mean Lalor and Trainor off to very good starts,but how are our 5 shaping up?Trav looks set,Barrat should be locked into kpd for 15 years,maybe a regular as early as 2026,Tauru ditto,sounds are pretty positive around Dodson and Said

among the richmond guys are a couple that look like long term developers,sims faull armstrong & alger has only just reached double figure possies in 2 games in the vfl

we lost battle to get our 5 guys,they lost bolton baker graham rioli

interesting watch,for me anyway

Im really happy with our kids and they will play a role in our clubs improvement moving forward. But generally the kids taken earlier in the draft have a much higher sucess rate than those later. We needed key talls hence the Tauru and Barrat calls, Travaglia was best available but I think he will be a little behind the elite mids in the draft.

I watched Simms and Faull in yesterdays VFL game and think Simms will end up a mobile ruckman, Faull will replace Lynch, Lalor has done his first preseason for sometime, Trainor spent most of the night playing on smalls will be a 3rd tall, Armstrong needs time and then they have Smille and Hotton still to return. I cant see the Tigers ever being unhappy with that haul.
 
I reckon Walsh could be worth a look, value would likely be at an all time low at the end of season and if we can get him fit is exactly the type of midfielder we need.
We aren't seeing the best out of him at Carlton recently. Through their atrocious injury management and game style that doesn't suit him. I think he's withering at the vine there. I'd give up our likely top 10 pick this year for him, fits the age demo and clearly his upside his massive. Saw a post about him playing contested due to Carlton's game style where as ours would free him up to get the uncontested possies, run forward and be that damaging player he can be. It would be a monster effort to pull him out of Carlton though.. and their supporters might legitimately burn down Ikon park if it happened.
 
The only notable difference there is Nas, Windy and Chito being about a season's experience ahead of their comparative group.
Converting that to an averaged line graph will tell the story better. Adding Pou will further bolster that group too.
Averages are not statistically comparable, there are too many variables better to look at a dot plot. .
 

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Leek Aliir looks like exactly what we need down back with Barratt and Taurus for the next 10 years.

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Keen to see how the year pans out with Caminiti in the backline first to be honest. He has shown some good signs so far.

Still has a lot to learn though no doubt.
 
I'd honestly be surprised if the 900k would be true.

I can't see a club offering anywhere near that so I'm not sure why we'd have to. Maybe there could be some clauses in there that if he were an AA or best and fairest he would get that but it doesn't sound right otherwise.

I rate him though, was keen to chase him last year. Shouldn't cost too much in a trade this year.
 
I'd honestly be surprised if the 900k would be true.

I can't see a club offering anywhere near that so I'm not sure why we'd have to. Maybe there could be some clauses in there that if he were an AA or best and fairest he would get that but it doesn't sound right otherwise.

I rate him though, was keen to chase him last year. Shouldn't cost too much in a trade this year.
Yep. Based on the article where the 900k figure came from, it reads as a bit of guess work of the maximum we could offer if we had too.


"Every Victorian club is interested in GWS defender Leek Aleer, but rivals believe St Kilda would trump them all if it came to a bidding contest.

Figures of as much from the Saints as $800,000-$900,000 a season have been bandied about for the Kenyan-born, Sudanese-heritage defender, extraordinary given his eight AFL games last year saw him averaging only 10 possessions."
 

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