Past #24: Levi Greenwood - officially traded to Collingwood FC for pick 25 (2014) - retires rd16 2021 due to concussion symptoms - go well Pig

[royals1922]

I am struggling to understand the angst here. Higgins has played 17 or more games in 5 of the last 6 years and scored 17 or more goals in a season in 3 of the last 6 as well as getting 18 possessions per game and we get him for 400K.

We refuse to pay 450 K to a bloke who is one year younger, who scored over 4 goals in a season for the first time this season and has played 17 or more games only twice in the last 6 years and who averages half a disposal more per game.

I know he is a nm bloke but I donot see the cause for the angst.

 

[B4Bear]

I think people are expecting Collingwood to fall away they have more stock pile of 1st round players than North do waiting to come in.
Going to Collingwood is not a backward step for Levi injuries culled them this year. They would be on the same level as North l would think.
People are dreaming if they think a preliminary final finish is where the list is really at, for mine we would be the 5th-6th best team with an upwood trend trying to stay ahead of 4 other clubs at best.

Do you mean I was dreaming when I was singing the song that wonderful friday night a few weeks ago when we beat Geelong and made the Preliminary Final.

Damn, to think that such a sweet memory was all in my imagination.

 

[Schraderbrau]

Can we actually trade for Greenwood?? he's out of contract?? or do we get compensated?? Anyways direct swap for Paul Seedsman for me thank you very much.

Seedsman was ordinary this year due to injury but he is a player that we are never trading. (a) His form last season makes his perceived value significantly lower than what it should be; and (b) his importance to the pies is inflated because they have very few players who can carry the ball and hit a target with any kind of consistency.

I can't think of any senior players on our list that both clubs could agree to. Maybe Nathan Brown although injuries are a bit of a turn off.

It will likely be a draft pick and I think around pick 20 is reasonable. That's what we got for Wellingham when he was still regarded as a pretty good player.

 

[Black Diamond]

******* hopeless North.

The worst case of mishandling I have seen since we drafted Graham Cornes for half a season.

Call us armchair critics on BF or whatever you like but for 3 years many of us on here have been singing Levi's praises and the lack of offering him something earlier in the year when it was obvious he had hit some form acceptable to Match Comittee was negligent to the extent that now he has been given offers he can't refuse.

Totally disgraceful, disappointing and frustrating.

Lol. A lot of those same armchair critics wanted us to trade Goldstein.

Face it, we have very little idea.

 

[Roosurgence]

Pickering on radio saying North handled it poorly by taking too long to make a reasonable offer. That gave other clubs time to get involved. Made no bones about the fact that North blew it. Look forward to hearing Norths version.

He has to say that or his client just looks like a money grubbing pig. I find it astounding that he claims our deal we put forward would have been taken 2 months ago, yet it's not good enough now? I'll give you the tip, 2 months ago he wasn't getting cash thrown at him.

 

[jclei]

I dont think Levi should get to say exactly which club he wants to join. If WB, Coll and Rich all had good offers for him, NM should get to decide who gives back the best trade in return for him and thats where he goes. Since when do players just all of a sudden decide they will be traded to team X.

The AFLPA has really changed the landscape in recent years.

 

[Mejekdraw]

1 brownlow vote for the year.. Well played north

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

I dont think Levi should get to say exactly which club he wants to join. If WB, Coll and Rich all had good offers for him, NM should get to decide who gives back the best trade in return for him and thats where he goes. Since when do players just all of a sudden decide they will be traded to team X.

The AFLPA has really changed the landscape in recent years.

This.

 

[scooby1279]

I am struggling to understand the angst here. Higgins has played 17 or more games in 5 of the last 6 years and scored 17 or more goals in a season in 3 of the last 6 as well as getting 18 possessions per game and we get him for 400K.

We refuse to pay 450 K to a bloke who is one year younger, who scored over 4 goals in a season for the first time this season and has played 17 or more games only twice in the last 6 years and who averages half a disposal more per game.

I know he is a nm bloke but I donot see the cause for the angst.

the problem is we final we saw what greenwood offers and there is no denying he was massive in all our wins in the finals, the contract should have been done and dusted by finals time if not few days after.
disappointing thing is it allowed Ziebs and Cunnington to play forward.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

I dont think Levi should get to say exactly which club he wants to join. If WB, Coll and Rich all had good offers for him, NM should get to decide who gives back the best trade in return for him and thats where he goes. Since when do players just all of a sudden decide they will be traded to team X.

The AFLPA has really changed the landscape in recent years.

Nah, it's got to be a balance. Should he take less coin at Rich because they can satisfy us in a trade?

By the same token, trade has to satisfy us as well.

All that's happened is he has nominated where he'd like to go. There's no guarantees until a trade gets done, but if he refuses we shouldn't be able to trade him to Tigs against his will.

That's how Mitch Clark ended up at the Dees. He wasn't chasing money, but Freo couldn't (or wouldn't) satisfy Brisbane in a trade. Mitch genuinely wanted to get back to WA, so when the Dees came in with an acceptable offer to Brissy they had to give him a truckload of money to compensate him for not going to his preferred destination. If somebody ponies up now with money for Levi and a pick/player for us he could still end up elsewhere.

 

[Gasometer]

Lol. A lot of those same armchair critics wanted us to trade Goldstein.

Face it, we have very little idea.

Don't make me bump the Levi threads of the past three years....one of the few BF constants that we can say "I told you NMFC'

 

[jclei]

Nah, it's got to be a balance. Should he take less coin at Rich because they can satisfy us in a trade?

By the same token, trade has to satisfy us as well.

All that's happened is he has nominated where he'd like to go. There's no guarantees until a trade gets done, but if he refuses we shouldn't be able to trade him to Tigs against his will.

That's how Mitch Clark ended up at the Dees. He wasn't chasing money, but Freo couldn't (or wouldn't) satisfy Brisbane in a trade. Mitch genuinely wanted to get back to WA, so when the Dees came in with an acceptable offer to Brissy they had to give him a truckload of money to compensate him for not going to his preferred destination. If somebody ponies up now with money for Levi and a pick/player for us he could still end up elsewhere.

So whats stopping us doing that too. I doubt we would match the Pies completely but surely we could still have a chat with him and put a better offer if we really dont want to lose him. Collingwood have been trying to do that with Beams since he said he wanted a trade. If we wanted to keep him I would have thought we could just up our offer and he would stay.

 

[Kangas_11]

I dont think Levi should get to say exactly which club he wants to join. If WB, Coll and Rich all had good offers for him, NM should get to decide who gives back the best trade in return for him and thats where he goes. Since when do players just all of a sudden decide they will be traded to team X.

The AFLPA has really changed the landscape in recent years.

I'm still a bit unclear, but what happens if we decline the trade from Collingwood? Does Levi walk to the PSD? And where does that leave us in regards to compensation etc?

 

[Black Diamond]

Don't make me bump the Levi threads of the past three years....one of the few BF constants that we can say "I told you NMFC'

Just be sure to do the same for Goldstein, Harper, Pedersen and Ayden Kennedy.

"The club should have signed him, BF was right" is very poor reasoning.

 

[Smoocher]

I will reserve my anger for when the trade is made. Anything less than a top 15 pick would mean we lose in this deal. Not sure if Collingwood has anything decent to trade as they have a team full of 175cm short people (all superstars just ask any Collingwood supporter).
Haven't bought my membership for next year yet but if we get screwed I'm gonna go all Richmond like and microwave my membership once I receive it.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

I'm still a bit unclear, but what happens if we decline the trade from Collingwood? Does Levi walk to the PSD? And where does that leave us in regards to compensation etc?

If he walks to the PSD we get nothing. He puts a price on his head (which will be the contract he has negotiated with Collingwood). There is no trading of PSD picks so it will go Saints - Melb - GWS - Bris - Dogs - Blues - GC - Collingwood. If anyone's prepared to match Collingwood's offer and select him he has to go there.

 

[kangaspurs]

Mate our first rounders are shocking.

Agree with you 100%.

Not talking about that.

Just think its crazy losing Greenwood but bringing in Higgins who is made of glass for 4 years at $400k odd.

Greenwood would have stayed if you' come to the table earlier with a bit more.

Dont be fooled.

Your name Cameron Joyce is it?

 

[NarniMagic]

The fact that Collingwood fans are trying to justify the Wellingham trade, and have to nerve to even imply Greenwood is worth less than him is a ****ing insult.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

So whats stopping us doing that too. I doubt we would match the Pies completely but surely we could still have a chat with him and put a better offer if we really dont want to lose him. Collingwood have been trying to do that with Beams since he said he wanted a trade. If we wanted to keep him I would have thought we could just up our offer and he would stay.

We could, but I don't think we're inclined to match Collingwood's offer. With the departure of Ball, Greenhead is worth more to them than he is to us.

We should certainly entertain whatever offers come our way from other clubs, but they still have to satisfy Levi. If he is adamant about Collingwood then he can knock them back even if they are worth more, but if he goes to the PSD they can just pick him up anyway if they have a pick before Collingwood.

 

[Kanga1996]

One word statement from North Melbourne regarding Greenwood "OOPS"

 

[Grogg]

the problem is we final we saw what greenwood offers and there is no denying he was massive in all our wins in the finals, the contract should have been done and dusted by finals time if not few days after.
disappointing thing is it allowed Ziebs and Cunnington to play forward.

Yeah there's definitely no denying that.

Mind you we are yet to see what a fully fit Swallow and Wells have on that.

I suspect Ziebs and Cunners will still see a similar amount of forward time.

 

[andana]

Maybe Levi always liked black and white but strange to move to a bottom placed club.

 

[jclei]

Yeah there's definitely no denying that.

Mind you we are yet to see what a fully fit Swallow and Wells have on that.

I suspect Ziebs and Cunners will still see a similar amount of forward time.

Considering how well it worked im sure we will continue to do that.

Its time to start looking at our younger brigade to take this spot. Jacobs should be working his arse off to make this spot his and we have seen how good an inside mid he can be in the VFL and he is only 22.

 

[kozi]

Quick question guys.. say the Pies say "we'll give you 0 for him", can he still walk out and sign with them because he's out of contract?

Does Nth Melb have any leverage at all? Serious question guys because we've also been in the hunt for him.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Quick question guys.. say the Pies say "we'll give you 0 for him", can he still walk out and sign with them because he's out of contract?

Does Nth Melb have any leverage at all? Serious question guys because we've also been in the hunt for him.

He could walk into the PSD. The Dogs offered more $$$ so they would have to pass on him for him to get to the Pies.