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I'm just not convinced, he has all the attributes but a few highlights every couple of weeks doesn't cut It. Interesting rest of the season coming up for Powell.
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22 years old and only played 60 games, improvement isn't always linear, will have a better idea this time next year of where he is at and what his future holds as he gets closer to 100 games. Personally I think he will be fine, there's a very good footballer there.
Ranked number 2 for goal assists at the club this season, and 6 for score involvements. He does have an impact with his decision-making and disposal.
Most definitely elite vision
Ranked number 2 for goal assists at the club this season, and 6 for score involvements. He does have an impact with his decision-making and disposal.
He's been pushed out by Sheezel by the looks of things.Absolutely. He's one the best in the team with the ball.
But the damning statistic is despite those numbers he's had the following center bounce numbers since the bye, which has also correlated with a massive uplift in the midfields performance when he was replaced by Sheezel/Simpkin/Phillips.
CBA %:
39%
28%
12%
17%
His TOG %'s have also dropped by around 10% since 5-6 games ago. He's spending more time on the bench and is basically operating in Lazarro's 20-22 place in the team, bench/half forward, with a few center bounces a game, as Laz did in the first half of the year.
12%-17% is the exposure Clarko was giving Laz, McKercher, Curtis and Greenwood in the first half of the year to center bounce.
Earlier in the season at the peak of his form he was present in 85%-90%+ of our center square bounces.
That is a huge difference and there's clearly something the coaches have identified that they don't like, despite him having really strong offensive numbers.
He's been pushed back in the pecking order by the return of Simpkin, Sheezels midfield move and Clarko deciding to run Phillips as a tagger.
However, Powell averaged some of those high CBA numbers earlier this year with all of LDU, Wardlaw, Simpkin in the side. He's simply been pushed 2 or 3 places down the pecking order, which is a bit alarming.
These might only be short term decisions, but the question really is how does he honestly fit in the long term if this is where Clarko is putting him now?
He is a gun young player, statistically really good. I'm in agreeance with everyone in that regard, but no one can really prove where he's going to go. It's easy to rattle off his name with the group of others.
Is he actually going to move Simpkin out? It doesn't appear that way now with Clarko. He probably would have already if that was the case, Clarko has actively moved Jy back into the midfield since the bye and Powell out of it despite Jy playing mostly forward all year and Powell having a 12 game sample size as THE clearance mid in the side.
He's not a HFF and we have McKercher and likely another top pick this year to incorporate in the midfield rotation the next few seasons. That's ignoring someone like Duursma who could develop into anything.
He doesn't have the running speed and capacity to play off the wing imo.
We simply can not let him rot in the VFL or on a HFF for extended periods of time in the next 12 months, it's not fair on his career either.
I really think an open decision needs to be made on him at the end of the year.
If Powell is a major part of the plans, someone else needs to step aside into another role. As hee needs at least 40%+ CBA's to be effective.
If not, we should be moving him on to fill a few of the other list holes, he's one of the few North players who would have genuine currency and has had a pretty decent year.
He's been pushed out by Sheezel by the looks of things.
What about half back where he'll rack up more disposals meaning higher usage of his skills and vision to set up attacking play.+ Phillips.
Phillips attended more center bounces than LDU against the Dogs.
There's effectively 2 open spots in the center for rotation when we are running a tagger.
The 17% Powell attended was when Phillips went to the bench and we ran 3 genuine mids in the middle. He was only called upon to relieve the tagger in the middle. Clarko preferred LDU, Simpkin and Sheezel (without Wardlaw in consideration)
Those 2 rotated spots need to be shared between LDU, Wardlaw, Simpkin, Sheezel and Powell. Ignoring every other prospect we have.
Remembering Powell attended 17% CBA's on the weekend without Wardlaw in the side.
There's a chance he could get dropped for GW when he's back, as Simpkin is probably pushed back to half forward for big potions for GW and Sheezel plays less in the center and more in the F50.
It's either get rid of the tagger and keep Powell in the side, or Powell is a permanent forward or in the VFL. I don't think Powell as a half forward is a viable option.
It's a pretty big decision for Clarko considering where Powell was a few months ago vs Phillips.
What about half back where he'll rack up more disposals meaning higher usage of his skills and vision to set up attacking play.
I think he was tried there. Even he joked in an interview about how he wasn’t much good in that role.What about half back where he'll rack up more disposals meaning higher usage of his skills and vision to set up attacking play.
Not for long though, he'd need to learn it better. Imagine the damage he could cause with 25 to 30 disposals.I think he was tried there. Even he joked in an interview about how he wasn’t much good in that role.
Yeah ... I guess what I mean is Phillips' role isn't something someone else can do but more that Sheeze and Powell are competing for one spot. Phillips wasn't in the side that played Port (or the Eagles iirc). That was the first time I remember him in the middle regularly.+ Phillips.
Phillips attended more center bounces than LDU against the Dogs.
There's effectively 2 open spots in the center for rotation when we are running a tagger.
The 17% Powell attended was when Phillips went to the bench and we ran 3 genuine mids in the middle. He was only called upon to relieve the tagger in the middle. Clarko preferred LDU, Simpkin and Sheezel (without Wardlaw in consideration)
Those 2 rotated spots need to be shared between LDU, Wardlaw, Simpkin, Sheezel and Powell. Ignoring every other prospect we have.
Remembering Powell attended 17% CBA's on the weekend without Wardlaw in the side.
There's a chance he could get dropped for GW when he's back, as Simpkin is probably pushed back to half forward for big potions for GW and Sheezel plays less in the center and more in the F50.
It's either get rid of the tagger and keep Powell in the side, or Powell is a permanent forward or in the VFL. I don't think Powell as a half forward is a viable option.
It's a pretty big decision for Clarko considering where Powell was a few months ago vs Phillips.
Needs to be pitted against warlord in the 1 on 1s during preseason- so he knows the required level and effortHe has not bought into the rabid defensive efforts that are making us more competitive.
+ Phillips.
Phillips attended more center bounces than LDU against the Dogs.
There's effectively 2 open spots in the center for rotation when we are running a tagger.
The 17% Powell attended was when Phillips went to the bench and we ran 3 genuine mids in the middle. He was only called upon to relieve the tagger in the middle. Clarko preferred LDU, Simpkin and Sheezel (without Wardlaw in consideration)
Those 2 rotated spots need to be shared between LDU, Wardlaw, Simpkin, Sheezel and Powell. Ignoring every other prospect we have.
Remembering Powell attended 17% CBA's on the weekend without Wardlaw in the side.
There's a chance he could get dropped for GW when he's back, as Simpkin is probably pushed back to half forward for big potions for GW and Sheezel plays less in the center and more in the F50.
It's either get rid of the tagger and keep Powell in the side, or Powell is a permanent forward or in the VFL. I don't think Powell as a half forward is a viable option.
It's a pretty big decision for Clarko considering where Powell was a few months ago vs Phillips.
I don't think we're there yet. This might be the first season Powell plays a full 22 games of AFL (knock on wood).Absolutely. He's one the best in the team with the ball.
But the damning statistic is despite those numbers he's had the following center bounce numbers since the bye, which has also correlated with a massive uplift in the midfields performance when he was replaced by Sheezel/Simpkin/Phillips.
CBA %:
39%
28%
12%
17%
His TOG %'s have also dropped by around 10% since 5-6 games ago. He's spending more time on the bench and is basically operating in Lazarro's 20-22 place in the team, bench/half forward, with a few center bounces a game, as Laz did in the first half of the year.
12%-17% is the exposure Clarko was giving Laz, McKercher, Curtis and Greenwood in the first half of the year to center bounce.
Earlier in the season at the peak of his form he was present in 85%-90%+ of our center square bounces.
That is a huge difference and there's clearly something the coaches have identified that they don't like, despite him having really strong offensive numbers.
He's been pushed back in the pecking order by the return of Simpkin, Sheezels midfield move and Clarko deciding to run Phillips as a tagger.
However, Powell averaged some of those high CBA numbers earlier this year with all of LDU, Wardlaw, Simpkin in the side. He's simply been pushed 2 or 3 places down the pecking order, which is a bit alarming.
These might only be short term decisions, but the question really is how does he honestly fit in the long term if this is where Clarko is putting him now?
He is a gun young player, statistically really good. I'm in agreeance with everyone in that regard, but no one can really prove where he's going to go. It's easy to rattle off his name with the group of others.
Is he actually going to move Simpkin out? It doesn't appear that way now with Clarko. He probably would have already if that was the case, Clarko has actively moved Jy back into the midfield since the bye and Powell out of it despite Jy playing mostly forward all year and Powell having a 12 game sample size as THE clearance mid in the side.
He's not a HFF and we have McKercher and likely another top pick this year to incorporate in the midfield rotation the next few seasons. That's ignoring someone like Duursma who could develop into anything.
He doesn't have the running speed and capacity to play off the wing imo.
We simply can not let him rot in the VFL or on a HFF for extended periods of time in the next 12 months, it's not fair on his career either.
I really think an open decision needs to be made on him at the end of the year.
If Powell is a major part of the plans, someone else needs to step aside into another role. As hee needs at least 40%+ CBA's to be effective.
If not, we should be moving him on to fill a few of the other list holes, he's one of the few North players who would have genuine currency and has had a pretty decent year.
I understand what you're saying, but I'd like to think there's a role for Tom and he retires having played 250 to 300 games for the Roos and several premiership medallions in his pool room.
The way I see it is that the great teams bat deep through the middle and have 5 to 6 guys that can go into any centre bounce or stoppage situation and dominate. I think back to the great Brisbane Lions teams. They had absolute midfield stars in Voss, Black, and Lappin, but they also had 4 or 5 others who were capable of going in there and doing a job. Guys like Power, Akermanis, Notting, Headland, and Ashcroft. On that basis, we should be able to build a team that makes use of LDU, Wardlaw, Sheezel, Simpkin, Phillips, McKercher, (insert our next top 3 pick), and Powell.
IMHO Powell is up there with Sheezel as the best decision-maker and ball user on our list, and the clear number one in terms of distributing the ball by hand. He does have some areas to develop, most of which will be aided by improved strength and building his tank.
What were LDU and Wardlaw’s clearance numbers in the games Will played, versus their 2024 clearance averages?Yeah ... I guess what I mean is Phillips' role isn't something someone else can do but more that Sheeze and Powell are competing for one spot. Phillips wasn't in the side that played Port (or the Eagles iirc). That was the first time I remember him in the middle regularly.
re the bolded...
Phillips had only one clearance against the Dogs, but if he was on Treloar ... Treloar only had 2. He is averaging 5.9 per game, dunno the breakdown between CBA clearances and the others. Bont had 11, as opposed to 6.67 so he covered Phillips' work negating Treloar (assuming that's what happened.) Libba averages 4 and had 4. Against the Dogs Phillips seemed to do his job limiting Treloar's usefulness but on balance it didn't seem to have alot of effect cos Treloar still had a goal or two and they covered his midfield output with Bont whereas the two weeks earlier Phillips' work was effective and noticeably inhiobited the opposition.
About average. LDU is averaging exactly 7 vs 6.3 for the year. George had 6 and 7 then got hurt. He's averaging 5 for the year but his clearance numbers are alot more erratic. He has had games where he got 2 and games where he got 10 before Will started tagging.What were LDU and Wardlaw’s clearance numbers in the games Will played, versus their 2024 clearance averages?
Go back to LDU thread and there’s the same post over and overI'm just not convinced, he has all the attributes but a few highlights every couple of weeks doesn't cut It. Interesting rest of the season coming up for Powell.
+ Phillips.
Phillips attended more center bounces than LDU against the Dogs.
There's effectively 2 open spots in the center for rotation when we are running a tagger.
The 17% Powell attended was when Phillips went to the bench and we ran 3 genuine mids in the middle. He was only called upon to relieve the tagger in the middle. Clarko preferred LDU, Simpkin and Sheezel (without Wardlaw in consideration)
Those 2 rotated spots need to be shared between LDU, Wardlaw, Simpkin, Sheezel and Powell. Ignoring every other prospect we have.
Remembering Powell attended 17% CBA's on the weekend without Wardlaw in the side.
There's a chance he could get dropped for GW when he's back, as Simpkin is probably pushed back to half forward for big potions for GW and Sheezel plays less in the center and more in the F50.
It's either get rid of the tagger and keep Powell in the side, or Powell is a permanent forward or in the VFL. I don't think Powell as a half forward is a viable option.
It's a pretty big decision for Clarko considering where Powell was a few months ago vs Phillips.