28 546 at the G: Melb v the Hawks

[Hawkk]

I seriously doubt that. But that's Essendon and Richmond.

Essendon and Richmond both have form drawing sub 30,000 attendances to fixtures (for Essendon does 2010 ring a bell?)

That said both clubs who struggle to draw 50,000 crowds against non Victorian clubs ...half our members might be pets but they do rock up on the off occasion.

 

[tige19]

Any Hawthorn supporter that says they don't need Tasmania is delusional.

Be very careful son, your mob is another 5 game losing streak away from possible extinction.. the football world is a fickle place, ensure your own backyard is looked after before commenting to much on others.

 

[QuietB]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...oints-at-the-mcg/story-fni5f91a-1226655444108

Melbourne home game attendances for the season...

Melbourne V Port Adelaide - 22,924
Melbourne V West Coast - 18,571
Melbourne V GWS - 20,018
Melbourne V Gold Coast - 13,018
Melbourne V Hawthorn - 28,546

Admittedly the Hawthorn game was the only higher drawing game amongst the lot (the average home and away game between the clubs has drawn 42,800 over the last 10 meetings) but the Demon crowds are falling off the cliff...at this rate QB may only draw 50,000 or there abouts.

That is a horrendous draw for a club trying to make any money.

Add to that the dees have pies, dogs, swans, lions, north and freo as their remaining home games. Good luck making any money out of that. Fixture is a complete farce.

 

[Dragz]

Take out their 3 game memberships, the dog and cat memberships (which the Hawks pioneered), their fanbase is no bigger than St Kilda.

http://membership.hawthornfc.com.au/2013-packages

No pet membership available there pal. In fact, Collingwood has a No-match membership, that probably accounts for 20,000 of your members.

 

[Rioli magic]

I seriously doubt that. But that's Essendon and Richmond. Hawthorn are a different kettle of fish.

Clean and successful.

 

[Hawkk]

I seriously doubt that. But that's Essendon and Richmond. Hawthorn are a different kettle of fish.

Round 17, 2004 suggests you in most probability know little about what you are talking about...

Richmond V Melbourne - 25,211

Admittedly Hawthorn drew just 11,682 the previous round (which resulted in Schwab getting the bullet) but even with that disastrous attendance we still managed 28,392 against Melbourne in round 18.

...Tiger fans, best fans in all the world...just don't mention the Jack Dyer memorial game in 2003

 

[Hawkk]

Round 9 2012: Carlton V Melbourne - 28,371

Are Carlton 'a different kettle of fish' as well?

 

[Hawthorn United]

I have a membership so free entry for yesterday. I just didn't want to go and waste 3-4 hours of my life.

Had other things to do.

 

[Papa G]

Be very careful son, your mob is another 5 game losing streak away from possible extinction.. the football world is a fickle place, ensure your own backyard is looked after before commenting to much on others.

Just pointing out that there are many Hawthorn supporters that see the Tasmanian sponsorship/4 games as unneccessary impediment. They are clearly wrong. It is probably the best sponsorship deal in the AFL and perfect for a mid teir Melbourne club, for a myriad of reasons, and will be especially evident when the club goes through a down turn in form.

 

[00Stinger]

Poor old crowd at a poor old game - bringing the game into disrepute?

Care to explain how this is bring the game into disrepute?

P.S This is not the bay

 

[kenneje]

A blight on the game. Both clubs should be forced into administration and the players/staff/members divvied up between the remaining 16 clubs. I am disgusted. Genuinely disgusted.

 

[lihei]

28, 546? The Breakdown as follows:

1, 000 Melbourne Members
4,000 Hawthorn Members
1 Hawthorn 'Tassie' Members
1,000 Hawthorn 'Pet' Members
15,000 Free Passes
5,000 Other supporters (why??)
545 AusKick players, officials and families
2,000 MCG staff (except no-one in the 'G' car park)

 

[blue harvest]

28, 546? The Breakdown as follows:

1, 000 Melbourne Members
4,000 Hawthorn Members
1 Hawthorn 'Tassie' Members
1,000 Hawthorn 'Pet' Members
15,000 Free Passes
5,000 Other supporters (why??)
545 AusKick players, officials and families
2,000 MCG staff (except no-one in the 'G' car park)

Don't forget the 3 guide dogs the umps had.

 

[tap my scully]

Sunday twilight is the worst time slot in history. Ever.

As someone who follows AFL and NRL, I can assure you that Monday night is a gazillion times worse

 

[Hawkk]

Just pointing out that there are many Hawthorn supporters that see the Tasmanian sponsorship/4 games as unneccessary impediment. They are clearly wrong. It is probably the best sponsorship deal in the AFL and perfect for a mid teir Melbourne club, for a myriad of reasons, and will be especially evident when the club goes through a down turn in form.

Perhaps, does the same apply to Carlton (who drew a smaller gate in almost the identical round last year?)

That said given the club has the 2nd largest revenue, membership and balance sheet its hardly life and death. With the way Hawthorn is now set up (and given they haven't made a financial loss since 1996) the strength of Hawthorn can more than withstand a shift in sponsorship agreements.

I posted this in the crowds thread...

Round 1 2013 - Hawthorn V Geelong: 76,300
Round 3 2013 - Collingwood V Hawthorn: 72,254
Round 5 2013 - Hawthorn V North Melbourne: 42,103
Round 7 2013 - Hawthorn V Sydney Swans: 54,725
Round 9 2013 - Hawthorn V Gold Coast: 28,113
Round 10 2013 - Melbourne V Hawthorn: 28,524

How many supporters went to round 1 and 7 but skipped round 10?

 

[blue harvest]

Newsflash!!!!

When teams are shit no one wants to watch.

 

[lihei]

Newsflash!!!!

When teams are shit no one wants to watch.

True. It also shows that Melbourne supporters, like Sydney supporters are very fair weathered.

 

[Hawthorn United]

True. It also shows that Melbourne supporters, like Sydney supporters are very fair weathered.

Cos everyone wants to sit and watch 3 hours of their team get smashed when they can do it in the comfort of their own couch and get other things done.

 

[Geddy Lee]

True. It also shows that Melbourne supporters, like Sydney supporters are very fair weathered.

How do you explain our membership increasing every year from 2007-12 when we were continually shit? Please enlighten me.

 

[lihei]

Hmmm, just because membership goes up doesn't have to equate to your crowd numbers increasing or indeed them all consistently turning up.

Feel enlighten my poor Dees man.

 

[Zod_16]

Didn't Andrew Demetriou himself categorically rule this out as a factor that affects crowd numbers a few years ago?

I mean really, for people who had no plans to attend the game, who looks at the TV guide and goes "Oh hang on, the game is a delayed telecast by an hour on tele. Lets rush off to the MCG and pay to watch it live instead"? By the same token, who has tickets to the game or plans on going, and upon finding out the game is live on television and not a delayed telecast, drops their plans and just stays home and watches on television instead? Very, very, very few people I would imagine. It's a ridiculous concept to think it's anywhere near a widespread factor in attendances IMO.

I think there is probably a small percentage that would choose to not go to a game on late Sunday afternoon in winter to watch an incredibly one sided game that they can watch live and have dinner on the table by 6.30. Certainly a lot of people I know don't do much on Sunday afternoon/night because of commitments on Monday

 

[Geddy Lee]

Hmmm, just because membership goes up doesn't have to equate to your crowd numbers increasing or indeed them all consistently turning up.

Feel enlighten my poor Dees man.

Our crowd numbers are indeed shit, but a good counter argument against us being fair weathered is that the storm clouds have never been darker, and our membership has grown. From a membership point of view, our ratio of supporters:members is the best in the AFL.

 

[Hawthorn United]

Clubs should be judged on their membership numbers/revenue instead of just crowds. They've paid their money towards the club.

AFL like to spruik about how crowd numbers equating to success of the game. So low crowd figures should equate to the game being poor, rather than just Melbourne.

At the moment, seems like big crowd = AFL going well.

Poor crowd = Home team need to pick up their game.

 

[KrakFiend]

People aren't turning up in droves to watch the Melbourne FC?

Well I'll be buggered.

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Care to explain how this is bring the game into disrepute?

P.S This is not the bay

Just consider the person making the comment, disregard it, and move on.