3 scumbag thugs at Sunshine station

[krusden]

The footage below from the Herald Sun website shows three scumbags kicking a young man in the head at Sunshine Station yesterday over and over, rendering him unconscious. The police are appealing for witnesses. The three male offenders are more than likley from an African nation. My question is, why are we allowing these scumbags a) in the country and b) letting them stay in the country? I know the political correcters will try and make excuses for them but nobody, I don't care what sort of background or up bringing they have, has the right to do what these three absolute pricks did to the poor fellow. And I don't care whether the victime is a saint or not, it is ludicrous that this occurs and these three melon's should be caught, punished and deported quicker than we can say "justice".

Warning, the footage is graphic and violent so don't watch it and then come on here and have a go at me for posting it either as you have been warned.

http://player.video.news.com.au/heraldsun/#g0CzxSWAHkdM5mZOB5BnH4afiIctlyec

they only do crap like that here cos they can get away with it. we need to bring in whipping or the cane or a deterrent punishment - not just for "these" bastards but for ALL thugs - black, white, whatever rather than "rehabilitation" or a slap on the wrist.

 

[Bodicifer]

what so now calling someone a Melon is racist!

**** me dead - I can't call someone a monkey, a fruitcake or a melon

we may need to rename the fruit

OMG, you are racist against fruit

Thanks Capitalist, at least some people are rational and don't jump on the racism bandwagon like a hair trigger reaction with no basis. The only reason I said they were of African decent was to highlight that they were obviously given the privilege to come to Australia but then they slap us in the face by kicking the living daylights out of a bloke. Therre's no point clogging up our jails, deport them. At least then people back in their homeland thining about a move to Australia will get the mesage that if you be a d***head then you'll be on the next flight home.

 

[Kim Chambers]

Then why mention they are most likely of African decent?

Ah well, this is just a hunch but maybe because this behaviour is starting to become more regular and get out of hand with these people?

 

[Kim Chambers]

Melon's???

I think that pretty much asserts you're pre-conceived feelings about the case...

Just because they're black doesn't mean they aren't Australians. Why do you automatically make that assumption with no other evidence than a report in a tabloid newspaper?!

I can't see why you'd want them treated any differently to any other person accused of such a violent act; ie let them face the full force of the law, after the necessary justice procedures of course

I was wondering how long it would take for the captain of the bleeding heart brigade to find this thread and piun point his usual hyperbolic garbage.

 

[Kim Chambers]

Are you more upset that something like this happened or that it was Africans carrying out the crime?

Thats right. Just keep burying your head in the sand. It'll all go away soon and we'll be able to go back to lollipops and edible flowers.

 

[Kim Chambers]

To take the emotion out of it, which is hard after viewing the footage, is to look at the clowns atop of this structure. Nixon, Overland and the other top brass that send out such a soft approach.

The problem is and after watching the policeman speaking in the video saying "they arent aware of the consequences, its a brazen attack in front of security camera's" (not word for word but those sentiments) is well they are aware of the consequences, pretty much there are none, they'll get caught, they'll get charged and going on precedent their lawyer will ask for leniency due to any of: hard upbringing, disadvantaged, mentally unstable etc and they will cop 18 months community service and walk out laughing.

**** soft sentences for such blatant attacks, give the pricks what they deserve. Honestly three men like that attacking a small and thinly built bloke, tough boys.

Thats exactly what will happen, and happens.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Ah well, this is just a hunch but maybe because this behaviour is starting to become more regular and get out of hand with these people?

So you are saying that they are behaving in such a manner because they are African?

 

[Kim Chambers]

That bloke copping the kicking is the size of a jockey.

Weak as piss.

It's their way.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

It's their way.

 

[Bodicifer]

Too true Kim Chambers...the bleeding heart softie left faction whose answer to everything is to sit around a circle holdings hands singing Kum Bay Ah are thankfully a minority and will remain that way. They never think to put their mother or brother or sister or wife in the same position as the bloke getting kicked in the head unconscious and see how it would feel. They would rather try on the racism line for size beause that's all that matetrs to them. I am in no way racist but as soon as you mention that someone is from another country, these tree hugging minority PC'ers love to try and jump on you. they would be better off jumping on the three scumbags who did this.

 

[rdhopkins2]

Now not saying all sexual assault victims go on to sexually assault themselves but isn't there a proven higher incidence of this, that people brought up around violence, war etc are more likely to be violent themselves? Obviously those that have been brought up like this have some terrible issues if they go on to offend themselves. For those who suffer and don't become an offender they also have been through much horror, sadness and pain.

Perhaps the answer is greater counselling, more available counselling. We can't go round thinking that everyone is bad because they are Sudanese/Irish/Egyptian/Italian/ Vietnamese/Iraqi/Greek/American etc* but those whom we agree to let in, we need to realise that there may be underlying psychological issues or cultural issues which may not allow them to be model citizens (from an Australian view) of Australia.

I'm not talking about One Nation here, I'm proposing we need to look at ways to help these people out, not kick em out or turn them away. Obviously anyone with proven prior convictions for serious crimes should not be allowed in in the first place.

I think it's worth looking into, not just bagging the crap out of poorer nations that have had it harder than we could ever fathom.

*With all due respect to the many many migrants who have brought much good to this culture, brought us delights from their cultures and become model citizens should not be punished for the actions of a few knobs.

 

[The Boy From Brasil]

Thats exactly what will happen, and happens.

It shouldn't though. Thats where IMO our judicial system falls down. Judges who place too much value of mitigating circumstances and the really weak sentences for violent crimes which are way apart from community expectations.

I personally think that this debate should be concetrated more on the gang related violence and violence incidents in our country, more than the sudanese part of it. But having said that, there is no way that sudanese or any other migrant group should get discount on sentences because of their background. Everyone should be treated equally and get hefty sentences for violent crime.

Just my two cents.

 

[Bodicifer]

So you are saying that they are behaving in such a manner because they are African?

Twist, twist, twist...typical

Kim is saying that there is a massive correlation between the refugees from Africa, particularly Sudan, and crime at the moment...get your almighty head of the sand for a moment and stop trying to support scumbags wherever they are from, Australia, USA, Africa by trying to twist lines into angles to make out that someone might be racist when all they are doing is stating a fact.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Now not saying all sexual assault victims go on to sexually assault themselves but isn't there a proven higher incidence of this, that people brought up around violence, war etc are more likely to be violent themselves? Obviously those that have been brought up like this have some terrible issues if they go on to offend themselves. For those who suffer and don't become an offender they also have been through much horror, sadness and pain.

Perhaps the answer is greater counselling, more available counselling. We can't go round thinking that everyone is bad because they are Sudanese/Irish/Egyptian/Italian/ Vietnamese/Iraqi/Greek/American etc* but those whom we agree to let in, we need to realise that there may be underlying psychological issues or cultural issues which may not allow them to be model citizens (from an Australian view) of Australia. I'm not talking about One Nation here, I'm proposing we need to look at ways to help these people out.

I think it's worth looking into.

*With all due respect to the many many migrants who have brought much good to this culture, brought us delights from their cultures and become model citizens should not be punished for the actions of a few knobs.

You make a good point rdhopkins2, but what happens to those that are deemed not to be mentally fit to migrate to Australia? Would not sending them away be negligent on our behalf?

 

[JUBJUB]

I wonder what the 2 people who walked by thought was going on
Fair enough they didn't stop,otherwise they would've had the shit kicked out of them,but when they got out on the other side you thought they might've called the cops to say it looks as though someone is being attacked.When the first kick is done you can still see the legs of the 2 people going up the ramp.Surely they would've heard something suss.

 

[The Boy From Brasil]

that people brought up around violence, war etc are more likely to be violent themselves? Obviously those that have been brought up like this have some terrible issues if they go on to offend themselves. For those who suffer and don't become an offender they also have been through much horror, sadness and pain.

I agree with this RD. I personally feel sorry for the Sudanese, experiencing a civil war where everyday could be your last, and then coming here with millions of rules. It would be going from one extreme to the other.

But whilst I feel sorry for them,surely the safety of our society is paramount. The immigration department should be accountable IMO for violent offenders who come to our shores. Its just not right, if you have an immigrant with a violent tendancy, and we let him wander around the community, and then when he is caught for a crime, we feel sorry for him. Number one priority should be the citizens in this country.

Please note, that I am talking in general terms in this post, and not commenting specifically about the case of the thread.

 

[Kim Chambers]

So you are saying that they are behaving in such a manner because they are African?

No, Sudanese. They are behaving like this because they can. Even when caught they'll have some scum bag lawyer pleading with the court that they come from an impoverished disadvantaged background and that they are picked on because of their skin colour and that this bahaviour is acceptable in their home country and the courts will be leant on to take all this into consideration because we can't upset the Sudanese community, can we?

And why shouldn't they try that angle? I would. The Lebanese muslims have been getting away with that for years. I think what angers the most is the coward factor. Its typical of these people.

 

[Wahooti Fandango]

Twist, twist, twist...typical

Kim is saying that there is a massive correlation between the refugees from Africa, particularly Sudan, and crime at the moment...get your almighty head of the sand for a moment and stop trying to support scumbags wherever they are from, Australia, USA, Africa by trying to twist lines into angles to make out that someone might be racist when all they are doing is stating a fact.

Yes, a correlational relationship and not a causal relationship. A critical difference.

 

[rdhopkins2]

Did the accused often loiter round train stations, harrass commuters etc? Or is it a one off?

If it's not a one off and there have been previous incidences of this, we need to explore ways of how to help people like this....is it English lessons, work for dole volunteering program...something that gets them off the streets and learning new skills and helping others.

Don't care what nationality they are. Sick of the odd caucasian Aussie carrying on like a knob too in similar manner.

 

[mantis]

It's their way.

Gawd this country's going downhill & it's not because of immigrants.

 

[Bodicifer]

So you are saying that they are behaving in such a manner because they are African?

Now not saying all sexual assault victims go on to sexually assault themselves but isn't there a proven higher incidence of this, that people brought up around violence, war etc are more likely to be violent themselves? Obviously those that have been brought up like this have some terrible issues if they go on to offend themselves. For those who suffer and don't become an offender they also have been through much horror, sadness and pain.

Perhaps the answer is greater counselling, more available counselling. We can't go round thinking that everyone is bad because they are Sudanese/Irish/Egyptian/Italian/ Vietnamese/Iraqi/Greek/American etc* but those whom we agree to let in, we need to realise that there may be underlying psychological issues or cultural issues which may not allow them to be model citizens (from an Australian view) of Australia.

I'm not talking about One Nation here, I'm proposing we need to look at ways to help these people out, not kick em out or turn them away. Obviously anyone with proven prior convictions for serious crimes should not be allowed in in the first place.

I think it's worth looking into, not just bagging the crap out of poorer nations that have had it harder than we could ever fathom.

*With all due respect to the many many migrants who have brought much good to this culture, brought us delights from their cultures and become model citizens should not be punished for the actions of a few knobs.

Perfectly said. I have a number of mates from all different backgrounds and countries and they agree that Australia carries many privileges with it and that if you are going to slap it in the face like these three thugs have done then they don't deserve what is made available to them in Australia. Everyone deserves a chance so counselling and what have you could be an option but we can't stand for the soft justice that the bleeding hearts crave. And we all know of people who have grown up in violent backgrounds or abusive backgrounds but the majority of them don't turn out to be thugs. Surely they would know, regardless of their upbringing, that kicking a bloke in the head until he is unconscious is wrong.

 

[The Boy From Brasil]

You make a good point rdhopkins2, but what happens to those that are deemed not to be mentally fit to migrate to Australia? Would not sending them away be negligent on our behalf?

Its a good point PP, and you basically spelt out the dilemma that government authorities have.

The way I would look at it though, is by placing priorities on the different rights. Yes, people from overseas have rights to asylum but our citizens have rights to a safe environment as well. I would suggest that our citizens rights take preference to the rights from overseas people.

 

[krusden]

Its a good point PP, and you basically spelt out the dilemma that government authorities have.

The way I would look at it though, is by placing priorities on the different rights. Yes, people from overseas have rights to asylum but our citizens have rights to a safe environment as well. I would suggest that our citizens rights take preference to the rights from overseas people.

globalisation and the various refugee agreements probably nix that argument unfortunately

 

[theGimp]

Gawd this country's going downhill & it's not because of immigrants.

Care to elaborate?

 

[Bodicifer]

Yes, a correlational relationship and not a causal relationship. A critical difference.

So living in Africa 'causes' everyone to grow up to be a thug??? Give it up. There are a minority of scumbags in every country around the world and these scumbags happen to be kicking the living crap out of a bloke in Australia when they know it is wrong. Don't make excuses for them, you look like a fool.