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feels I'm doing exactly what Hamas intended.
Recognising Israel is doing some horrendous things?
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feels I'm doing exactly what Hamas intended.
Even the pope is calling out Israel for deliberately targeting and killing civilians - something our government could and should have done already if Albo had backbone.
Even the pope is calling out Israel for deliberately targeting and killing civilians - something our government could and should have done already if Albo had backbone.
head of Local Council.......does he have any control over the IDF?
I have never said there are not lunatics in Israel, there were also members of government who suggested the use of nuclear bombs for example. Doesn't mean this is what is transpiring.
"The Palestinians use tunnels? So did my heroes, the poorly armed fighters of the Warsaw Ghetto. Unlike Israel, Palestinians lack Apache helicopters, guided drones, jet fighters with bombs, laser-guided artillery. Out of impotent defiance, they fire inept rockets, causing terror for innocent Israelis but rarely physical harm. With such a gross imbalance of power, there is no equivalence of culpability. … "I am dumbfounded how any government can parade the finding of a tunnel as some sort of got ya moment.
Melbourne is full of tunnels, old sewer tunnels, old subway tunnels, old access tunnels, cable tunnels.
These tunnels go between buildings, up and down busy streets and are used for many reasons.
Anyone could take a phot with a headline and make it sinister.
Tunnels are normal and in every city.
The hand that feeds us? WTF do we need long range nuclear subs for? So we can become another Israel, defacto US military base.That will not happen and it's not realistic to expect it too.
We are trying buy nuclear subs off the US at this very moment - we aren't going to kick the hand that feeds us rightly or wrongly.
Because we have no refining capacity in Australia, low fuel reserves, and our White Paper since the late 80s has prioritised sea-lane protection between Australia and Singapore above all else.The hand that feeds us? WTF do we need long range nuclear subs for? So we can become another Israel, defacto US military base.
but what would I know...
The hand that feeds us? WTF do we need long range nuclear subs for? So we can become another Israel, defacto US military base.
Crikey!Remember that whole 'Gas the Jew's chant at the Sydney Opera House protests? The one that zionists and politicians in Australia have been using to bolster support for Israel's ethnic cleansing?
Well turns out that it didn't happen.
This is why zionism is inherently antisemitic. To carry out ethnic cleansing in the name of an entire ethnic group is gross. Not to mention it directly correlates to an increase of antisemitism around the world and also puts Jewish Israeli's in harms way.A state is responsible for the actions of a state. An ethnic group is not responsible for the actions of some mebers of that ethnic group, even when those people pretend they speak for everyone in that ethnic group.
I think I'll point out that a whole bunch of people obviously don't understand because they keep accusing you of supporting the wholesale IDF slaughter of Palestinians based on your language before you keep pointing out you're criticising the IDF as well before I move on.Well, pretty much everyone else understands the point being made so maybe it's just you that has the issue.
Time to move on.
I think I'll point out that a whole bunch of people obviously don't understand because they keep accusing you of supporting the wholesale IDF slaughter of Palestinians based on your language before you keep pointing out you're criticising the IDF as well before I move on.
Its four hours of hot weather later (where I am) and I've been enjoying the creek while you're still arguing about this.It doesn't, because everyone knows what I'm talking about.
If you want to argue semantics, do it with someone else and stop going off-topic.
You said if palestinians stopped committing acts of terror.Well, those people mustn't be particularly intelligent, because I never remotely alluded to that whatsoever.
People in this thread are simply unable to rationalise any criticism directed at the side they cheer for and simply resort to accusing you exactly of what you stated.
It's as simple as that.
Its four hours of hot weather later (where I am) and I've been enjoying the creek while you're still arguing about this.
If everyone knew what you were talking about a whole of us wouldn't be pointing this out and repeatedly saying the same thing.
Israel relies on the people conflating Hamas and all Palestinians to get away with the wholesale slaughter and land theft they're engaged in.
Are you aware you're doing exactly what their psychological warfare operatives are programming you to do?
I had some good friends who were in Vietnam and even in the SE Asian"emergency" (ie the wholesale slaughter of lefties in Indonesia, malaysia etc etc a situation where many of the people who post left wing views on this website would have been targeted for those views.) One of them, who was ex SAS and in Vietnam and SE Asia generally told me he really couldn't see very much difference (if any) between what he and his fellow soldiers did in those conflicts and what the Nazis did.Iraq? After Vietnam, for f*ck's sake. After US-trained death squads were raping nuns and slaughtering villagers all through Central America in the 1980's, and even before that. Pinochet of Chile. The Somozas of Nicaragua. Concurrent with Vietnam was Suharto of Indonesia, he who killed millions all US-sanctioned.
That nation has been morally bankrupt for a VERY long time. Australia has been morally bankrupt by association for a very long time too, eager as we are to follow unquestioningly in the military 'adventures' of our masters the United States and before that the British Empire.
I think this needs to change.
You said if palestinians stopped committing acts of terror.
If someone said:
If the Jews would stop bombing babies...
... about this conflict I'd hope we'd all have the shits with them for saying the same thing. Its just unnecessarily inflammatory language.
I know this clown probably has me on ignore but once upon a time those sorts of people used to say all sorts of similar things about indigenous people and at the time Australia was committing genocide on indigenous people.head of Local Council.......does he have any control over the IDF?
I have never said there are not lunatics in Israel, there were also members of government who suggested the use of nuclear bombs for example. Doesn't mean this is what is transpiring.
Like I said I've been at the creek. Its mid 30s and aboput 185% humidity here.You quoted me. I haven't posted in here for a while.
Its more than that.It's literally 2 people who didn't understand it.
You mean since all this shit started one group's behaviour has been framed as terrorism and one group's behaviour has been framed as self defense? Well **** me what a surprise...The observation I made was about history since 1948, not the current conflict.
****en oath. Its hot and sticky and I just spent four hours with my crazy kids at the creek.Are you high?
You mean since all this s**t started one group's behaviour has been framed as terrorism and one group's behaviour has been framed as self defense? Well * me what a surprise...
BTW My highness or otherwise has nothing to do with the idea that Israel runs some of the most sophisticated Psy-Ops on the planet. I can be high and that can be true at the same time.
Put yourself in your shoes. Odds are you'd be doing the same thing. All of the troubles come after they were effectively told half the country they thought was theirs wasn't any more and all of the conflict and displacement that followed it.Are you ignoring the fact that people from Palestinian territories have committed acts of terror against Israel well before Hamas were a thing?
They did this when they were displaced after 1967 also, hence being kicked out of Jordan and Egypt, as well as Kuwait for supporting the Iraqi invasion in 1991.
They're not the historically peace-loving people you want to believe they are, because as a collective they have a rather troubled history in the middle-east that doesn't solely involve Israel.
Does this mean they deserve the treatment Israel have inflicted upon them? Of course not, they're complicit in breeding hatred against them from Palestinians and are certainly the main reason many of them either empathize, or openly support, the Jihadi cause.
Obviously this doesn't apply to every Palestinian so yes, I get your point about putting everyone under a blanket when they don't all deserve to be under there.
There's been plenty alluding to this.
Also, as an aside, people seem quite happy to blame the 'Americans' instead of the US government for many of the atrocities they've committed over the decades.
it's the same thing yet people freely do it, then ironically pull you up when you reference a different group in the same way, just like you have in this instance(not suggesting you're one of them btw).