Play Nice 45th President of the United States: Donald Trump - Part 12: This thread it’s going to disappear; One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear

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I am a big Obama fan but that doesn't make him fallible. He made mistakes, like any individual.

The problem with Trump is that he never thinks he makes a mistake. And his followers agree with him and believe he is beyond reproach.

No. That is what you believe.
 
No. That is what you believe.

Nonsense.

You people genuinely think he is the messiah. You'll even blame previous administrators for problems that he has had more than enough time to fix and you'll blindly defend every deplorable decision he makes.
 

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I am a big Obama fan but that doesn't make him fallible. He made mistakes, like any individual.

The problem with Trump is that he never thinks he makes a mistake. And his followers agree with him and believe he is beyond reproach.
That's it in a nutshell. It's simply never-ending variations of the Big Lie.

Problem with that approach (basically saying you just don't care about truth, truth is always negotiable) is when he does do something good or does say something true, it gets lost in the tangled thicket of obfuscation he's laid down.

When it comes to truth and trust, the Germans would say Trump is a nestbeschmutzer.
 
Yes, 100% factual. For evidence, see every press conference the man has ever done.

That's your evidence? I've seen many of them and can't see the evidence for your stupid assertion.

Make sure you never change your avatar, it's a highly appropriate warning for the type of content your posts are likely to provide the reader.
 
Nonsense.

You people genuinely think he is the messiah. You'll even blame previous administrators for problems that he has had more than enough time to fix and you'll blindly defend every deplorable decision he makes.

Nope again.
 
You people genuinely think he is the messiah. You'll even blame previous administrators for problems that he has had more than enough time to fix and you'll blindly defend every deplorable decision he makes.

Absolute nonsense, I've pointed out many of his errors and shortcomings in this thread and so have many others who are otherwise supportive of Trump. Sure, he's flawed, just like the rest of us. It's part of the human condition.
 
That's your evidence? I've seen many of them and can't see the evidence for your stupid assertion.

Make sure you never change your avatar, it's a highly appropriate warning for the type of content your posts are likely to provide the reader.

Trump pressers are almost always some mix of self-promotion, abusing journalists, lying about the state of the US economy, lying about the severity of the coronavirus, taking cheap shots at Democratic governors, making dubious claims about medications and absolving himself of any blame for anything that has gone wrong.
 
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No. That is what you believe.
Your first response to the article Mofra posted was not to address the points contained therein & admit Trump's failings on this issue - rather to point out something that Obama didn't do in 2009.
 

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Absolute nonsense, I've pointed out many of his errors and shortcomings in this thread and so have many others who are otherwise supportive of Trump. Sure, he's flawed, just like the rest of us. It's part of the human condition.
You were doing well until the full stop after Trump. Then ...

Sure, he's flawed, just like the rest of us. It's part of the human condition.
 
You were doing well until the full stop after Trump. Then ...

Sure, he's flawed, just like the rest of us. It's part of the human condition.

Sorry Maggie I forgot about you. Of course you are the exception. The first perfect individual without the slightest hint of a flaw produced by the human race for two millennia.
 

Excellent article. News dot com is Murdoch media isn’t it?

We know Murdoch isn’t biased against Trump & this article is factual & balanced. It acknowledges China’s failings in trying to cover things up but goes on to lay a damming case of the Trump administration’s appalling response.

This is ineptitude on a level with a Banana Republic not the great country that was America.

I beg any pro Trump posters here to read this article. It’s not fake news. It’s accurate journalism published by a media organisation favourable to Trump. A timeline of indisputable facts.

It is inexcusable & this awful, morally bereft, narcissistic fool will never recover from this. History will show him for the total fraud he is.

And yes my last paragraph is emotional. I am affected. This is a human tragedy that could have been avoided with a competent administration in place. Instead we have a vainglorious fool who is still trying to pull off his spiel of evil foreigners & lying media & self aggrandising while 100’s of thousands die directly because of his incompetence.


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That's your evidence? I've seen many of them and can't see the evidence for your stupid assertion.

Make sure you never change your avatar, it's a highly appropriate warning for the type of content your posts are likely to provide the reader.
The very day after his inauguration saw a pretty huge shout-out for Narcissism Personality Disorder.

Addressing 400 CIA agents (who are professional, apolitical, and presumably among the most ruthlessly efficient BS detectors in the world) he stood before the Agency's Memorial Wall - which bears a star for each of the 117 CIA agents killed in the line of duty - and told the gathering that no-one would ever break his record for the number of appearances on the cover of Time magazine.

(Which, apart from being unbelievably tasteless, wasn't even true - surprise, surprise. Nixon set the record.)

How much more evidence of narcissism can a fella need?
 
Excellent article. News dot com is Murdoch media isn’t it?

We know Murdoch isn’t biased against Trump & this article is factual & balanced. It acknowledges China’s failings in trying to cover things up but goes on to lay a damming case of the Trump administration’s appalling response.

This is ineptitude on a level with a Banana Republic not the great country that was America.

I beg any pro Trump posters here to read this article. It’s not fake news. It’s accurate journalism published by a media organisation favourable to Trump. A timeline of indisputable facts.

It is inexcusable & this awful, morally bereft, narcissistic fool will never recover from this. History will show him for the total fraud he is.

And yes my last paragraph is emotional. I am affected. This is a human tragedy that could have been avoided with a competent administration in place. Instead we have a vainglorious fool who is still trying to pull off his spiel of evil foreigners & lying media & self aggrandising while 100’s of thousands die directly because of his incompetence.


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I'm not saying he's been perfect but geez. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, and context is king. A timeline that doesn't offer context is pointless. May as well blame the Trump admin for not predicting the lotto numbers.

Compare the per capita stats from leftie nirvanas such as Denmark and the US id faring better by most metrics. Italy and Spain? Forget about it. Statistically, the notoriously ineffective US health system is functioning more effectively than much of the healthcare utopias of Europe.
 
The very day after his inauguration saw a pretty huge shout-out for Narcissism Personality Disorder.

Addressing 400 CIA agents (who are professional, apolitical, and presumably among the most ruthlessly efficient BS detectors in the world) he stood before the Agency's Memorial Wall - which bears a star for each of the 117 CIA agents killed in the line of duty - and told the gathering that no-one would ever break his record for the number of appearances on the cover of Time magazine.

(Which, apart from being unbelievably tasteless, wasn't even true - surprise, surprise. Nixon set the record.)

How much more evidence of narcissism can a fella need?

Sadly all the shortcomings associated with his high end NPD are now becoming self evident.
This crisis is far from over and it will continue to showcase his appalling leadership and inability to empathise.
He really is just a bystander now diminished to abusing reporters , giving false hope and finding any diversion he can.
The freezer trucks lined up in the hospital alleyway in NY should bring home the seriousness of this crisis but I doubt the orange buffoon would even know what they are for :(
 
I'm not saying he's been perfect but geez. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say, and context is king. A timeline that doesn't offer context is pointless. May as well blame the Trump admin for not predicting the lotto numbers.

Compare the per capita stats from leftie nirvanas such as Denmark and the US id faring better by most metrics. Italy and Spain? Forget about it. Statistically, the notoriously ineffective US health system is functioning more effectively than much of the healthcare utopias of Europe.
Too early to call on comparisons with Europe. Different timeline.
 
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