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AFLW 2024 - Round 10 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
I don't know who that alternative might be
Absolutely. But who?
Kamala isn't popular, Bernie is too old. There seem to be few viable alternatives
If Newsom decided to run (he won't unless Biden steps down) he'd beat Trump
A health issue might force him to bow outAny serious alternate democratic candidate (not you RFK Jnr) isn't going to directly challenge and attempt to primary the sitting president. If they are unsuccessful (which historically they have always been), then this will be enough doubt to hand Trump the general election win.
The only way we see alternate candidates thrown into the mix is if Biden himself rules himself out. And he's running out of time to do that.
But when though ?A health issue might force him to bow out
Any serious alternate democratic candidate (not you RFK Jnr) isn't going to directly challenge and attempt to primary the sitting president. If they are unsuccessful (which historically they have always been), then this will be enough doubt to hand Trump the general election win.
The only way we see alternate candidates thrown into the mix is if Biden himself rules himself out. And he's running out of time to do that.
But when though ?
Primaries will start in February. Alternate candidates are going to need time to launch campaigns, have debates and get their messages out to the voters etc.
Most of the Republican candidates (which I know are irrelevant as they won't get the nomination) started campaigning in June and have already held multiple debates.
If Biden is not going to run, the longer he holds off on announcing it, the more damage he is doing for the potential replacement candidates.
Based on all this, I think he runs again and honestly don't know how he goes.
either way it goes, in or out, it's a bit of a Death WatchTo be fair though if Trump becomes ineligible with all his legal woes, then both parties might be able to arrange the last minute scramble for an alternate candidate.
This is why I floated Newsom earlier.There must be some machinations going on behind the scenes, in protected meeting rooms, setting up potential campaigns if something changes. But it would just be like the DNC to AWOL here.
IF they got some extensive contingency planning then they have had very good security against leaks so far. I can see a strategic leak and an important moment, or also an investigative article exposing it.
I just effin hope they've got someone and the opening campaign moves if and when Biden bows out. I don't mind him for the election and one year in new term, but would rather have a new charismatic, tough, manager rise up.
Unless the georgia case is finished before next nov and he found guilty . Then if he runs and wins ,the fed cases will get dropped Jan20 2025 at 12.01 pmeither way it goes, in or out, it's a bit of a Death Watch
Oh yes, he is circling, waiting for the opening should it come. He would, like a lot of Dem hopefuls, need to up his game to win those moderate conservatives who may be repulsed by MAGA GOP. I think for many of the flyover swing, electoral college states is as a lib, coastal snob.This is why I floated Newsom earlier.
I have noticed he's doing a lot more national profile type stuff lately, under the guise of campaigning for Biden. He's participating in a debate with DeSantis later this month on Fox. There will no doubt be some DNC powerbrokers keeping an eye on how that goes.
Yes, it is all about how early it happens.Unless the georgia case is finished before next nov and he found guilty . Then if he runs and wins ,the fed cases will get dropped Jan20 2025 at 12.01 pm
This is why I floated Newsom earlier.
I have noticed he's doing a lot more national profile type stuff lately, under the guise of campaigning for Biden. He's participating in a debate with DeSantis later this month on Fox. There will no doubt be some DNC powerbrokers keeping an eye on how that goes.
If the problem with Newson is putting people off in swing states, I'm not sure Jon Stewart is the answer.The only issue is that voters in swing states will be put off by him being from California, very easy to attack if you're targeting voters who are susceptible to gut feel politics. He is pretty good at debate and presentation, but he'll get hit hard. California also has some significant issues (aside from the usual "woke socialist" jibes), though the usual comparisons that conservatives make with Florida, Texas are embellished.
Haven't seen as much of them, but Whitmer and Shapiro might track better in the mid-west, Arizona, Georgia etc.
Was kind of hoping Jon Stewart would run after his Apple deal fell apart.
It's more what Newsom represents. Conservatives have been using California as a punching bag for years, going on about how it's a failed state, people are leaving in droves, taxation out of control etc. They'd label both Newsom and Stewart as woke socialists, but with Newsom they can tie him to the picture that they've painted of California.If the problem with Newson is putting people off in swing states, I'm not sure Jon Stewart is the answer.
If it's goldfish they'll definitely not vote for Biden, they'll have nothing else on their mind
Absolutely. But who?
Kamala isn't popular, Bernie is too old. There seem to be few viable alternatives
You can't say polling has collapsed and then argue it will improve because of Donald. It will improve because people have other things to be upset about ie goldfish
I have no issue with your second proposition and am frustrated the Democrats and Joe can't see the forest for the trees.
I don't know who that alternative might be